Didn't Churchill say he wished he could wipe Ireland off the map?? Everyone has a fit when the Iranians say it.Originally Posted by Fran Tick
Didn't Churchill say he wished he could wipe Ireland off the map?? Everyone has a fit when the Iranians say it.
Freedom fighter or terrorist is a very fine line and your view depends which side of the line your looking from.
eg.Che Guevara south american freedom fighter north american terrorist.Its all about perspective.
Michael Collins Irish freedom fighter english terrorist.
Osama bin laden al-Qaeda freedom fighter everyone else terrorist.
I don't think we should make him out to be a saint either. I've always found him to be a bit of a bully and he was a gun man. But that's what was needed. Politics had failed. The British had proved they couldn't be trusted to follow through on agreements so violence was the only solution.
How do people think things would have turned out if he'd lived?
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Never forget Thatcher once called one for greatest men ever to have walked this earth a “terrorist,” she was referring to Nelson Mandela.
"Live for nothing or die for something, your call."
Yes Churchill did play us but he was a poker player for his power "let play the orange card"..it was internal politics at westminister not a love of green or orange, we have to grow up it was power brokering ,and our island was just another seat
a thousand kisses deep..
I understand that. But certain journalists don't when It comes to Collins. Also, I'm not keen on placing our on modern morals on the past.
Have you ever trusted the integrity of a politician now or then???
Stalin....with my life!
Im sorry but my splif said stalin but my heart said Lennon
There were loads, Barry , Breen, Mckeon etc. Colins was just the more famous of them.
Funny how nobody refers to Devalara as a terrorist. He was the same as Collins except kept his head down and was an opportunistic brat.
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