signs of an alcoholic!

[Laura Lee]

U really have to ask if someone sits who in a house for 2 months and just leaves the house to get
more alcohol has a drink problem? If he was a lazy fucker (which he may also be) he would prob
be just looking at TV or stay in bed not drinking himself stupid.
I have personal experience of a family member who did something similar, although in his case when not drinking
was very hard working, but he went on binges like this with varying frequency,ranging from 2 years on the dry to
about 3 times a year. He used stock up take to the house and basically u could do nothing with him till he drank
himself into a stupor,then we would take him somewhere to dry out . He was a gentleman when on the dry but
then the cycle would repeat itself. The binges could last anything from 10 days to a month.
The sad part it ultimately cost him his life at a young age. It wasnt from the lack of help or family support as he
was greatly loved by the family, he was a single guy and was very genorous to his siblings and nephews and
nieces etc and greatly loved in his community as a whole because he was great to elderly neighbours etc
I suppose what it made the whole family realise that no matter how hard u try and what u do at the end of
the day the main initative must come from the person himself

Excellent post and I agree 100%.

It sounds to me that if this guy is now openly saying he is an alcoholic then maybe he is finally admitting that
alcohol has him beaten. He sounds as if he is ready to throw in the towel and get help, I think the worst thing
you can do right now is accuse him of using it as an excuse to get out of work.

The changes in his behaviour are fairly typical of an alkie unfortunately, look at Paul Gasgoine, once a brilliant
footballer, now a mess, all through alcohol. He needs your support now more than ever, and even if he f**ks
up again in the future, if you are a true friend then don't let him down, because you never know the hour or
the minute when you'll need his help.

[Dirty Harry]

so many spelling mistakes.

thanks for that your right i do make spelling mistakes amigo i should take more care from now on cheers .........but at least i can punt two or three times every week if i want to have a nice day think i will have a cold beer now

[ber]

Maybe so. I grew up in a pub. I have seen ppl who could drink all week long yet could stop anytime they wanted to. Looking at them you would think that they couldn't stop and were alcoholics but they weren't. I have seen ppl drink a lot less than them but couldn't stop or give up at all.

Westside.

Alcoholism is not defined by whether u can stop or start drinking, alcoholism is when drinking if having a detremental effect
on ure life and those around u. If u spend all week in a pub drinking it effects alot of things, no 1 ure health ,ure finances
and ure relationship with others, if u spend alot of time in the pub and go home to a family with alot of drink on u this has
an awful effect on them ,u need not nessecarily be violent or belligerent,(while this would be common) but how can u expect
a wife /partner or kids to have any quality time with u when ure loaded with drink.Im not even mentioning the example it sets.
Alcoholism is a very complex disease and the symptoms manifest themselves in very different ways in different people,there is
no one person u can hold forward and say here is ure typical Alcoholic

[Westsidex]

Alcoholism is not defined by whether u can stop or start drinking, alcoholism is when drinking if having a detremental effect
on ure life and those around u. If u spend all week in a pub drinking it effects alot of things, no 1 ure health ,ure finances
and ure relationship with others, if u spend alot of time in the pub and go home to a family with alot of drink on u this has
an awful effect on them ,u need not nessecarily be violent or belligerent,(while this would be common) but how can u expect
a wife /partner or kids to have any quality time with u when ure loaded with drink.Im not even mentioning the example it sets.
Alcoholism is a very complex disease and the symptoms manifest themselves in very different ways in different people,there is
no one person u can hold forward and say here is ure typical Alcoholic

Alcoholism to me is a person that has to have a drink. First thing in the morning they have to have a drink. Last thing at night they have to have a drink. They cant function without a drink. They cant stop drinking. I get what your saying but i have seen cases where what your saying didn't apply.

A lot of ppl confuse heavy drinkers with alcoholics.

Westside.

[ber]

Alcoholism to me is a person that has to have a drink. First thing in the morning they have to have a drink. Last thing at night they have to have a drink. They cant function without a drink. They cant stop drinking. I get what your saying but i have seen cases where what your saying didn't apply.

A lot of ppl confuse heavy drinkers with alcoholics.

Westside.

In practice a heavy drinker is whats known as a functional Alcoholic, because when anything of note be it a stressful situation
or a celabatory one their first port of call is Alcohol and even though they wont admit it or people on the outside looking in dont
often see it, alcohol has a leading role in their lives

[Westsidex]

In practice a heavy drinker is whats known as a functional Alcoholic, because when anything of note be it a stressful situation
or a celabatory one their first port of call is Alcohol and even though they wont admit it or people on the outside looking in dont
often see it, alcohol has a leading role in their lives

True i agree with that but i have known heavy drinkers who could stop drinking anytime they wanted to.

Westside.

[ber]

True i agree with that but i have known heavy drinkers who could stop drinking anytime they wanted to.

Westside.

Ah yes they could stop, but they started again ,the country is full of Alcoholics who have stopped drinking but they are always
only a drink away from the merry go round. This is very like the old tradition of giving up drink for Lent, many heavy drinkers used
do this, but what most wouldnt tell u yes they gave it up but they were counting the days, hours and minutes until they were back
on it again. Most likely the night they went back they got pissed. Also Paddys day u got a free pass, if drink didnt mean so much to
them why drink that day?

[Magicman]

The clinical definition for an alcoholic is one whose life is disrupted in any department (social, financial, work or recreation) by alcohol. It is not just the amounts that are taken into considerations but also the reasons and when the effects of the alcohol are as serious as the reasons, usually depression but there are many other ones, then the prevailing condition is referred to as alcoholism.
To the original poster of this tread.................it's an illness, a nightmare for those going through it and a hell for those who have to live with and deal with them.
One of the easiest way to discover an alcoholic, but not the only or definite way, is they will lie about their drinking........the amount or where they were drinking and how much their drinking is costing...............the lie will be there.

Hope this helps the original poster and anyone else who may have to deal with an alcoholic.

Magicman

[ber]

The clinical definition for an alcoholic is one whose life is disrupted in any department (social, financial, work or recreation) by alcohol. It is not just the amounts that are taken into considerations but also the reasons and when the effects of the alcohol are as serious as the reasons, usually depression but there are many other ones, then the prevailing condition is referred to as alcoholism.
To the original poster of this tread.................it's an illness, a nightmare for those going through it and a hell for those who have to live with and deal with them.
One of the easiest way to discover an alcoholic, but not the only or definite way, is they will lie about their drinking........the amount or where they were drinking and how much their drinking is costing...............the lie will be there.

Hope this helps the original poster and anyone else who may have to deal with an alcoholic.

Magicman

Thank u magic man that is my point exactly,anybody that drinks heavily will without exxception fit into one or more of the
above categories

[jayf1]

i havent had a drink for 3 years 1 month 17 days so far but i'm an alcoholic.
i think some of you are missing something.....there are many diffrent types of alcoholic.
i'm the type that wont drink for months but when i do start i can dissappear for weeks at a time and when i do sober up i find my pockets empty bank account empty and cards all maxed out.
then not think about drink for months again.
this is my longest dry so far.....fingers crossed.