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    Default A Rant at the Irish Agricultural Industry.

    What is the harm in having someone drive ahead of you when moving large farming machinery? Twice this summer and indeed most summers i go around corners and there is a huge machine in front of me with no prior warnings at all. Its just not the hell on. Its like drink driving.I know of ppl no longer with us over this crap.

    Get someone to drive ahead for warnings or wait until someone is there.

    too dangerous,
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    I think that's a very poor comparison...........

    I think you're find one is highly illegal, the other...........not so much.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    I think that's a very poor comparison...........

    I think you're find one is highly illegal, the other...........not so much.........
    Has nothing to do with anything being legal. Its the narrow corners on some roads in the country. Even legal machinary takes up all the road sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    Its the narrow corners on some roads in the country.
    Then perhaps this the problem and not the farmers.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    Then perhaps this the problem and not the farmers.........
    Not really because you cant make a road wider but you can give oncoming traffic a prior warning. Its the farmers fault 100%. If it went to a court the farmer would loose because he would be asked they he take all the measures he could have taken and of course he didnt if he hadnt any way of warning incoming traffic.

    The only way a farmer might get off is excessive speed of the other vehicle or the other vehicle striking the farm machine on the opposite side of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    Its the farmers fault 100%. If it went to a court the farmer would loose because he would be asked they he take all the measures he could have taken and of course he didnt if he hadnt any way of warning incoming traffic.

    The only way a farmer might get off is excessive speed of the other vehicle or the other vehicle striking the farm machine on the opposite side of the road.

    Westside.
    Rubbish.

    If the other road user was asked did he take every measure he could have taken he would probably have to say no too. Unless he got out of his car, walked around the corner to make sure there was nothing there...........

    If someone crashes into a legally operated mechanically propelled vehicle driven by a farmer that is larger that a normal road going vehicle, the farmer is not automatically the one in the wrong, in fact, more often that not, the other driver can be charged with driving without due care and attention and in a manner not in keeping with the road conditions...........

    Expect the unexpected............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    Not really because you cant make a road wider but you can give oncoming traffic a prior warning. Its the farmers fault 100%. If it went to a court the farmer would loose because he would be asked they he take all the measures he could have taken and of course he didnt if he hadnt any way of warning incoming traffic.

    The only way a farmer might get off is excessive speed of the other vehicle or the other vehicle striking the farm machine on the opposite side of the road.

    Westside.
    If you crash into him your liable............ hows the farmer suposed to warn you hes driving the machine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    What is the harm in having someone drive ahead of you when moving large farming machinery? Twice this summer and indeed most summers i go around corners and there is a huge machine in front of me with no prior warnings at all. Its just not the hell on. Its like drink driving.I know of ppl no longer with us over this crap.

    Get someone to drive ahead for warnings or wait until someone is there.

    too dangerous,
    Westside.
    Well i would often be on the road all day with a machine so putting some one in front of u is not practical, in instances with machinery over the prescribed with of 9 1/2 feet they do. Very few farm machines exceed this with on the road, most machines that have a working width which is wider fold up. The thing is if machines were any wider than this they would not be able to
    access gateways to fields etc.
    Also if u want to put something in front of Farm machinery well then trucks and buses take up as much room or more than
    farm machines so are u going to do same for them?
    As for the legal standing the law is totally different on narrow country roads, if u are driving a vechicle on these roads which
    is wider than half the road u cannot physically make it fit in half the road and this is taken into consideration, so the onus is
    on people driving these roads to be able to stop at all times.
    This really is another instance of the urban rural divide country people accept that this machinery needs to be on the road
    and take due care wheras urban drivers think the roads are like motorways where everybody has their own lane
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    About time you showed up. You were a bit slow getting here. Must have been traveling on the tractor........
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    About time you showed up. You were a bit slow getting here. Must have been traveling on the tractor........
    Yes i got off at all the corners and peeped around to see was Westie coming
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