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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    Rubbish.

    If the other road user was asked did he take every measure he could have taken he would probably have to say no too. Unless he got out of his car, walked around the corner to make sure there was nothing there...........

    If someone crashes into a legally operated mechanically propelled vehicle driven by a farmer that is larger that a normal road going vehicle, the farmer is not automatically the one in the wrong, in fact, more often that not, the other driver can be charged with driving without due care and attention and in a manner not in keeping with the road conditions...........

    Expect the unexpected............
    True but they would aks in a court who beared the most responsability and if the driver wasnt going at excessive speed and not on the wrong side of the road then he woulds have done all he could. The farmer however could have done more and have someoen up ahead to warn oncoming traffic.

    Expect the unexpected is fine but a court doesnt recognise this only goes by the rules of common law (equity law wont come into this).

    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty squeezebox View Post
    If you crash into him your liable............ hows the farmer suposed to warn you hes driving the machine...
    If he is aware of the danger he could cause while being blind to oncoming traffic then she should have someone up ahead to warn oncoming traffic. How this is done is his own perogative. Instead most of them take a chance. Its not good enough considering all it takes is just one collision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 414fun View Post
    If the machine has crossed the white line onto the other side of the road then the driver of the machine is in the wrong. If there are no markings on the road then if the vehicle has crossed the crown of the road then the same applies. This applies to all vehicles not just farm equipment. Mostly though down here in the sticks either an advance vehicle goes ahead or warning signs are placed where the road journey for the equipment is short
    This is the case in the cases i have be involved in. Eitehr hit the machine or be forced over to the very side of my own side of the road and forced to stop. In fact there were guys in a car behind him shaking their heads. What he was doing was very dangerous. The machine didnt appear to be over the 9 ft either.

    In one case by the way , the forks on the front of the machine were lowered. Just in case the collision doesnt kill someone the forks might.

    not good enough,
    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    I've often been behind very large machinery literally taking up the entire road for at least about a mile, even on fast rural roads you can go 50mph on (this machinery was going fast as well). If you meet someone, they would literally have to reverse all the way back.
    Or hit the front of it and be hurt if its at a corner. Remember these examples were all a blind corners. Its all very well saying expect the unexpected. Its like saying expect a heart attack if your over 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    If he is aware of the danger he could cause while being blind to oncoming traffic then she should have someone up ahead to warn oncoming traffic. How this is done is his own perogative. Instead most of them take a chance. Its not good enough considering all it takes is just one collision.

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    Sure hed prob have to pay somone to do that and you know what them boys on the farm are like for penny pinching

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty squeezebox View Post
    Sure hed prob have to pay somone to do that and you know what them boys on the farm are like for penny pinching
    alot better than paying out compo i reackon.

    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    alot better than paying out compo i reackon.

    Westside.
    Most people dont think that far ahead unfortunatly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty squeezebox View Post
    Most people dont think that far ahead unfortunatly..
    Thats because they think it wont happen to them. Supposed to happen to other ppl. Luther says expect the unexpected and maybe so but this applies to both parties and thats why they should do something other than hope all is good.

    In court it will be a case of Common Law. Who is right or who is wrong or in the case of a doubt who could have done more to avoid the problem in a reasonable manner.

    Westside.
    Last edited by Westsidex; 05-08-10 at 15:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    This is the case in the cases i have be involved in. Eitehr hit the machine or be forced over to the very side of my own side of the road and forced to stop.
    Wow, forced over to your own side of the road and forced to stop to avoid an accident. What is the world coming to.........

    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    The machine didnt appear to be over the 9 ft either.
    So he wasn't doing anything wrong. Just going about his business trying to earn a living. All be it, moving slowly.......

    String him up, hang the farmers I say. Then we'll save a fortune on giving them grants and we'll have loads a money for food and beer and stuff. Oh no, wait a minute, something wrong there.....................................

    Except Ber who gets grants for punting. Nice one Ber................
    "It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    If he is aware of the danger he could cause while being blind to oncoming traffic then she should have someone up ahead to warn oncoming traffic. How this is done is his own perogative. Instead most of them take a chance. Its not good enough considering all it takes is just one collision.

    Sincerely,
    Westside.
    This is the very same for every road user. Why is a farmer blind to oncoming traffic and any other road user is not??? Have you put farmers on your ignore list???...............
    "It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
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