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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    if you own a dog and he bites someone he is put down so why should a guy who abuses children be allowed walk around.

    oh we can register them, plz ffs,
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    Totally agree and also with poster who says that these "people" cannot be cured , a case in point the killers
    of Jamie Bulger, one of them who was given a new life , identity etc for the most horrible crime is back behind bars
    charges with downloading Child Abuse , I do not like to call it Child Pornograpy.
    What good is a register to children who are this very minute are being drugged , abused and filmed.



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    As a history lover, I find it fascinating that what we consider abhorrent today was the norm for societies like ancient Greece and Rome. Paedophilia, in the form of pederasty, and especially homosexual pederasty,was positively encouraged.

    Even a hardcore martial culture like the Spartans encouraged homosexual pederast relationships between their hoplites in the belief that it improved discipline - supposedly you'd be more likely to fight harder if you had a "relationship" with the man next to you in the battle-line. In Athens it was more "artistic" in the sense that they were attracted to the youthful ideal body.

    Pederasty has also cropped up again and again over the centuries in art. Look at the sculpture of David, for example, the smooth youthful masculine ideal with a really small penis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jammydodger View Post
    Ok everyone,
    i know this topic mightnt be for everyone but what are peoples opinions on paedophiles?
    Before i get pm'ed with death threats, i just wanna say id never ever condone paedophilia or anything non-consensual. I just have an opinion on this and, after recently sharing it with a friend, was surprised that he couldnt see any slight sense in my points... I also know on the boards here we have a very open forum and would love to see what you guys think.
    I am of the opinion that anyone attracted to underage girls or boys have a seriously jaded view of attraction. But i also think they are predisposed to this attraction, either mentally at birth or through whatever negative experiences they've gone through in their life. There must be paedophiles who realise they have a perverted sense of attraction and have never acted on it. Not so long ago, homosexuality was illegal... And I think that they are similiar in the sense that they have been predisposed to this change from the normal sexual attractions,either through their environment growing up or just naturally born with it...
    For me, i have a lot of sympathy for paedophiles who havent acted on their attractions. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. However, i have zero sympathy for anyone who would ever act on these impulses. They deserve more than the law can impose on them. I applaud the treatment of them in prisons.
    I genuinely think these people who don't act on it are victims of circumstance. They must live lonely existences.
    Fair play for expressing an opinion a view but your interpretation of paedophilies is wrong there must be a death sentence applied not trying to give u a short answer but a person who feels the urge to touch a child sexually must firstly face up to the problem before acting upon it they need to seek help & find out what is it in their background that tempts them to want to touch children sexually, help is there if they dont want help & committ a sexual act against a child they must leave this earth....

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    i would like to think that these ppl dont choose to have these thoughts/feelings. Though why they choose to act on these thoughts or feelings is quite unforgivable.

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    Paedophilia and homosexuality are completely different things, if you want to compare it to anything imho it's rape.
    Both rape and paedophilia are about having power and control over another person.

    I think it's too easy to say something like the death penalty as a solution as studies show that in America where it's used for capital crimes the murder rate's still much higher than in countries without.

    I believe it's got much more to do with environment than genes. Again studies show that those people who've been abused have a higher risk of abusing others than those who have not, one of the reasons it's so crucial to give counselling to victims of abuse and of course have funds available so at risk children get real protection instead going into projects which are only there for show.

    Another solution for me would be to focus on the boring stuff, teach children at as young an age as possible to have respect for themselves and others and the world would be a much better place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Parker View Post
    Paedophilia and homosexuality are completely different things, if you want to compare it to anything imho it's rape.
    Both rape and paedophilia are about having power and control over another person.

    I think it's too easy to say something like the death penalty as a solution as studies show that in America where it's used for capital crimes the murder rate's still much higher than in countries without.

    I believe it's got much more to do with environment than genes. Again studies show that those people who've been abused have a higher risk of abusing others than those who have not, one of the reasons it's so crucial to give counselling to victims of abuse and of course have funds available so at risk children get real protection instead going into projects which are only there for show.

    Another solution for me would be to focus on the boring stuff, teach children at as young an age as possible to have respect for themselves and others and the world would be a much better place.
    I agree with you but sometimes the differences between homosexuality and paedophilia can become blurred sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aml View Post
    I agree with you but sometimes the differences between homosexuality and paedophilia can become blurred sometimes.
    Its never blurred. Its ppl ignorance is what makes it look blurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    I think there is a huge difference between homosexuality and paedophilia where this predisposition is acted upon. Homosexual activity involves consenting adults of the same gender, whereas paedophile activity involves the sexual/physical abuse of a minor who probably does not as yet have the mental faculties to give informed consent to what is being done to them. The paedophile may use force or guile to get what they want from a child and to the extent that it is an older person forcing their will on a much younger person who may be in fear, then paedophile activity should be viewed as child rape.

    You are right, there probably are some countries that threat homosexual practices on a par with paedophilia............but then, they probably also stone people for adultry and prostitution and cut off hands for theft.
    I think he meant the attraction , not the act. ie Some poeple cant help who they are attracted too. Take homosexuals, they didnt wake up one morning and decide to be gay, they just were, I think what Jammydodger meant was that some of these peopel didnt choose to be attracted to kids but they are
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    I wouldnt go for the death penality , more along the lines of chemical castration, take the urges away rather than the life away
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    Hey guys
    just to say i never said homosexuality and paedophilia are the same thing, just that its a sexual orientation from either birth or drawn from an environment, and that you could draw similarities from people being predisposed to being attracted to others in a way that was outside of the social norm...

    Also i do wanna state that i find any act of child abuse deplorable, and contrary to what might have been suggested in other posts, if you read my other comments, I fully agree with the harshest penalties possible for people who abuse children or possess illegal pornographic material!
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