Not Forgotten

[whiteknight111]

The propaganda is all PRO-EUROPEAN. Pro-"integration" etc. The fact that you guys don't even see that they're selling off Ireland for their own profits is a joke.

You're being brainwashed into not being "racist", not being "hateful", "bigoted", all the words they throw at people who don't want invaders in our country.

The reason they come here is because they were busy fighting and massacring when our grandfathers and great-grandfathers etc. were building up the country and economy for them and their children!!!! They are selling us out, we are being SOLD OUT.

As for heros of time's past, well here's Ratko Mladic working out a battle plan he's about to commence... the logistics of slaughtering a village of men, women and children. Was there ever anyone remotely similar in the history of Ireland?

The Irish masscared the protestants planters and there descenedents in numerous rebelliions
1642 1798 etc . just as the serbs masscared the ottomon planters and their
descnedents. Every side commited warcrimes in the balkans
The serbs got a bad wrap cuase they had the biggest and best army and commited the largest and most high profile mass killings
and of course there where the ones NATO bombed to end it so the "media" had to make them
the bad guys. The war in the balkans goes back hundreds of years back to the turksih invasions
and there enslavement of the serbs.

[luther]

The propaganda is all PRO-EUROPEAN. Pro-"integration" etc. The fact that you guys don't even see that they're selling off Ireland for their own profits is a joke.

You're being brainwashed into not being "racist", not being "hateful", "bigoted", all the words they throw at people who don't want invaders in our country.

The reason they come here is because they were busy fighting and massacring when our grandfathers and great-grandfathers etc. were building up the country and economy for them and their children!!!! They are selling us out, we are being SOLD OUT.

As for heros of time's past, well here's Ratko Mladic working out a battle plan he's about to commence... the logistics of slaughtering a village of men, women and children. Was there ever anyone remotely similar in the history of Ireland?

But the bit in red makes the least........

Sweet Jesus, you think people need to be brainwashed in to not being racist etc???

You say that like being racisim isn't a bad thing.............

[Westsidex]

what age are you ,12

What breed are you? A dickhead?

Westside.

[Westsidex]

I don't find it suprising at all Luther. When it comes to national debates that involve the evolution or devolution of ones country there's always one side that drag out the past patriot heros of old to support their cause.

Personally I voted no the first time. I didn't vote the second time because I wasn't in the country. If I was I would of voted no again. Why? Well because I believe in the Republic and I don't support the "United States of Europe" which we more or less belong to now. But thats it right there. We belong to it now. The voting is over. We were robbed of our Republic and now we are a member state of the Great EU. I'm not bitter. I cried a little after I got home, but I accepted the change. We are married to the EU "till death do us part".

forget about the past patriots and the past period and tell me what voting yes to Lisbon would do for this country or should i say is doing for this country?

Westside.

[Westsidex]

About the susceptibility of some people to propaganda..........

I find it quite sad that people would use the memory of the dead heros of this country in this way..........

It's an embarrassment for me to see this...........it truely is.............



Of course, I haven't seen this happening either.............

the fact that ppl of this country voted and the referendum was rejected and that was good enough. So they decided to have another. I would never ever vote agin. Ill use my vote,ill rip it up but will never vote.

if it means nothing for Lisbon then it can mean nothing period,
Westside.

[Westsidex]

what age are you ,12

your probably like 99% of the ppl of this country ,crying like little bitches over how dangerous it is or how bad it is. Yeah whatever.

Lovingly,
West.

[luther]

the fact that ppl of this country voted and the referendum was rejected and that was good enough. So they decided to have another. I would never ever vote agin. Ill use my vote,ill rip it up but will never vote.

if it means nothing for Lisbon then it can mean nothing period,
Westside.

An absolute slap in the face for democracy, I was totally against it at the time it was first suggested, I was very much of the opinion that the government were just going to keep holding the referendum till they got the result they wanted, which in my opinion was BS........

However things change, the countries economic landscape changed in the mean time. We were not voting in the same economic enviornment the second time that we had voted in the first time. There were changes and clarifications made before the second vote and people were much better educated about the treaty..........

[Westsidex]

There were changes and clarifications made before the second vote and people were much better educated about the treaty..........

Scare tactics used by the gov that if we didnt vote Lisbon ,we would be freezed out and our economy would not recover. Whats stopping our economy recovering? EU? Its the banks and the fact that credit isnt easily available. Of course ppl could make the point that the anti campaign used scare tactics too but lets face it,nothing would scare someone better than saying if we dont vote yes then our jobs are doomed.

The fact of the matter is anybody who voted yes the second time when they had voted no the first time, gave in to scare tactics and put principle on the back burner.

Lisbon makes absolutely no difference to our economic recovery but it can make a big dofference in changing our economy to suit the EU in the long run and that may not suit us.

we gave too much away,
Westside.

[RicFlair]

Westie its over. I didn't want it either but it got through and we're now a republic in name only. We're actually just a member state now. We're Europe's Arkansas and it sucks balls.

However imagine this. Argentina re-invades The Falklands. Britain goes ape shit and asks the EU for military back-up because of EU border protection policies. Some of the EU joins Britain in The Falklands II: The Oil War. Westie is conscripted against his will to fight for the British/EU protectorate. Can Westie over come the odds against hoards of Argentine warriors and save the local Falkland honeys from being raped by the evil invaders?

[Westsidex]

Westie is conscripted against his will to fight for the British/EU protectorate. Can Westie over come the odds against hoards of Argentine warriors and save the local Falkland honeys from being raped by the evil invaders?

as long as my animals are fine and they have a gym at the training camp with loads of weights then im fine to go. In fact those who sat back and didnt go out to fight during the wars ,i cant understand. What a way to go out or to come back. You cant loose. You die a hero or come back a hero. Fuckin great way to be if you ask me.

Imagine this however. In fact imagine two things however ,which could very easily happen down the line.

(1) Germany and France go at loggers heads with each other and the states are split and we have an EU war

or

(2) The US and the EU are at loggers heads and end up going to war. It would be interesting to see the UK's position on that one and even our own position.

You mention "its over" and this is the whole prob with the EU as of late. We are doing things and voting on things with no comeback from them and this is the problem. Im fine with moving forward and if the EU works out the way its going, then ill stick my hand out of my coffin and admit i was wrong but if it doesnt work out ,where does that leave us? Its too big a gamble for a country like ourselves if you ask me. The same with the UK. Too big a gamble. Thats why the UK are so slow to move forward. would you blame them? Not really.

No harm in moving forward and trying things but with some type of comeback should it not work out.

Personally i think that they are trying to make the EU into a rich mans club. An elite club where they rule from one parliament and everyone can work for f all.

Thats my impression of it,
Westside.