bill cullen

[Alec Horan]

Tough shit? Tough shit????

We were the ones who were telling you all along that we couldn't support the immigrants. We were the ones who said to stop letting them into the fucking country. We were the ones who were saying that we'd find it very hard to get them out once they were here.

And now you say "tough shit", what do you want to do about it?

Actually we were well able to support them - If they hadnt come our economy would not have developed as well as it did. Ultimately our elected government fucked it up. Elected by the Irish - foreigners not allowed to vote - So I blame the Irish people myself.

[whiteknight111]

Food for thought.


The Irish-born population in Britain is the world's third largest overseas community of any country-of-birth group behind Mexican immigrants to the United States and Turks to Germany.

In 2001, there were 674,786 people in England (1.4 per cent of the population) who had been born in Ireland. This is the greatest concentration of Irish-born—as distinct from persons of Irish ancestry—abroad anywhere in the world and was equivalent to 12.1% of the population of the island of Ireland (5.6 million) in 2001.

Today the estimate is in excess of 850,000 including Scotland and Wales

Liberal double-speak
Your not comparing like and like.
This does not give 400,000 immigrants in 10 years the right to permantly settle here
and displace us
This is a small country We have taken in too many Immigrants In too short time
on the basis of one of the biggest false BOOMS in history in relative terms.
and we have now seen the one of biggest recession in modern history
There was too be a reduction in the number, 80% of young people want it
But the government are retarded
I amazed there is not a riot maybe the social welfare is too good
or maybe the people are leaving instead of rioting.

Do you think its a good idea that A Corpation gets together with a recruitment agncey hires
a East european when there irish available and leaves the Irish worker on the dole.



Maybe the Yanks should have kept the Irish out look at the damage the kennedys did?
And by the way the Yanks are deporting iilegal irish as we speak evey week.

[Alec Horan]

Liberal double-speak
Your not comparing like and like.
This does not give 400,000 immigrants in 10 years the right to permantly settle here
and displace us
This is a small country We have taken in too many Immigrants In too short time
on the basis of one of the biggest false BOOMS in history in relative terms.
and we have now seen the one of biggest recession in modern history
There was too be a reduction in the number, 80% of young people want it
But the government are retarded
I amazed there is not a riot maybe the social welfare is too good
or maybe the people are leaving instead of rioting.

Do you think its a good idea that A Corpation gets together with a recruitment agncey hires
a East european when there irish available and leaves the Irish worker on the dole.



Maybe the Yanks should have kept the Irish out look at the damage the kennedys did?
And by the way the Yanks are deporting iilegal irish as we speak evey week.

Liberal Double Speak ?????? What is that supposed to mean ?

I merely quoted some facts and figures - Do you dispute their accuracy ?

[Westsidex]

3 years ago these people were here doing the jobs that couldn't be filled by Irish people because they were to lazy to do them or they felt those jobs were beneth them.........

Well tough shit. What do you want to do now, send them all home???

why the hell should i work for less just because some foreigner will? thats the position of alot of Irish. Its not that those jobs were beneath them but that they were pushed out by those who work for f'all. They could work for way less and still have way more money and they did just that.

It will continue on anyway because of the sell outs in this country who got scared and voted Lisbon.

Sell Outs,
Westside.

[luther]

why the hell should i work for less just because some foreigner will? thats the position of alot of Irish. Its not that those jobs were beneath them but that they were pushed out by those who work for f'all.

For proving my point..................

They could work for way less and still have way more money and they did just that.

And how did they do that???

Do they not have the same cost of living as everybody else???

And don't give me the whole illegal/scamming story..........

I'm talking about legal, tax paying, law abiding non nationals.........

[Alec Horan]

If we follow with the logic of those against immigrants then surely it is only right and proper that all Irish working abroad should return here if there is any job they may be taking from the indiginous population.

Any other opinion would be hypocrisy of the highest order dont you think ?

[Westsidex]

If we follow with the logic of those against immigrants then surely it is only right and proper that all Irish working abroad should return here if there is any job they may be taking from the indiginous population.

Any other opinion would be hypocrisy of the highest order dont you think ?

it depends. Those Irish abroad you find are working for the same pay as everyone else.

Westside.

[luther]

Large parts of the econmy largely from 2003 to 2007 was a bubble econmy based on credit
The growth was unsustainable.
Too many immrigrants legal and ilegal came here.
The Bubble is over.
The majority of the immgrants should go home
Starting with the Roma, iillegal, Bogus asyulm seekers NON-EU
in that order.
Irish jobs Should be for Irish workers.
What do you mean "tough shit"

"A key factor in the bubble has the availablity of cheap labour"
The bubble would have have been far smaller but for them

Are you saying that irish should emmigrate because
1:forgeiners have there jobs
2:forgeiner are putting too big a strain on your state (social welfare) etc.

Our "leaders" won't even mention the big elephant There just hoping it goes away.
Poll shows hardening of attitude towards immigrants - The Irish Times - Tue, Nov 24, 2009

I'm talking about the legal ones. The illegal ones are a completely seperate issue..........

Yes, perhaps to many came, but they did do legally, and were welcomed with open arms..........

This is our fault, not theirs...........

[luther]

Tough shit? Tough shit????

We were the ones who were telling you all along that we couldn't support the immigrants. We were the ones who said to stop letting them into the fucking country. We were the ones who were saying that we'd find it very hard to get them out once they were here.

And now you say "tough shit", what do you want to do about it?

What do I want to do about it???

About the legal, tax paying, law abiting non nationals working in this country???

I want to do fuck all about it, they're doing nothing wrong..........

What do you want to do about it???

BTW.........

We were the ones who were telling you all along that we couldn't support the immigrants.

Who are we???

And I don't remember you telling me fcuk all............

Then again, I doubt during the period when all these non nationals we comin to this country you even had a vote so I doubt anybody would have listened to you anyway...........

[Alec Horan]

http://ftp.iza.org/dp4472.pdf