Disappointed in You Guys

[Patricia]

Hi,

I find myself quite disappointed in the users of this website this weekend. Not everyone of course, I know there are lots of decent people here, but generally disappointed.

It is always the way that we work really hard to try to make this website the best and a lot of people don't recognise that at all and are totally critical. I mean issues like reviews, it is generally all complaints and no recognition of all the hard work we are constantly putting in, but hey that's always the way around here and it has it's upsides, all the complainers do drive us to be constantly working to improve things, so it has it's advantages, and you guys are the customer and we are the service provider, so I think this is fair enough all in all.

But, firstly the PETITION...

It wasn't actually my idea, it was another girl in here's idea, but I supported it and said yes, lets do a petition, lets try to get the government to see that this prosecuting of independent escorts with our brothel laws that is going on now is really not right and it is putting escorts in danger.

Here at E-I, all of us, from the advertising staff on the phone to the people in IT, to me, hear about attacks on escorts all too often, we are very aware of the dangers and all too concerningly that, due to the current legal situation, many escorts now don't even feel able to report attacks, so the people committing these crimes are largely getting away with it and continuing on to keep doing it. It's a serious issue. I am upset to see what is going on here, all of the staff at E-I are.

I certainly thought this petition was worth a try. I didn't expect widespread support from the general public, it's always hard to get support from the public about prostitution issues. I didn't expect that many signatures from escorts, because as you all know, not that many escorts are active on these message boards, it is far more clients that come on here than ladies, due to many issues, not least that English isn't most escorts' first language. I didn't expect that much support from journalists because you can never count on support there. But I expected some support from you guys.

Whenever the press ask us for comments about clients, I am always defending clients, explaining that you guys are decent people, not abusers of women or whatever Ruhama etc might like to imply, but proper ordinary good guys by in large, men who care about escorts as well as enjoy escort services and will actually be the first people to help escorts if they need it, the last people that would want this industry in a bad state where women are being mistreated etc.

I've just looked at the petition. Basically 60 journalists that would have been sent cards signed, 10 escorts signed and 10 clients signed. That's how it looks. Yet I know from our traffic statistics that at least 10,000 clients have already seen this petition. So what it is? Do clients all disagree, is that it? Do clients not want escorts to be able to work in pairs for safety? Do clients think it is fair enough that police resources that could be directed at pimps and traffickers are now being directed at independent escorts? Are clients unconcerned that the current situation is that many escorts that are attacked feel unable to go to the authorities? Or it is that clients couldn't be bothered to sign as there is nothing in it for them? I'm afraid I'm thinking the latter might be the closest to the truth in most cases and I am disappointed.

*Removed by patricia. Until further notice no mention is to be made here of this issue.*

Well, that's this off my chest! Thank you to the 10 clients who did sign the petition and those of you that don't dedicate your time here to stirring up any shit whenever you possibly can without any regard for the consequences of your actions.

Myself I'm going to keep doing what I've always tried to do here and run a good website that is fair to clients and escorts and well-run, responsibly run, tries to play a positive role in this industry. If you have nothing better to do here that stir shit, expect to be banned soon.

Pat x

[am386]

I do in general support the petition itself, but am somewhat reluctant to give up my real name and email address. It is generally not wise and helpful for your private life and career to get your name associated with prostitution, no matter how good the cause is. I am sure many other punters will share this view...

[bhoywonder]

ditto............

[pablo_23]

Hi, I just signed this petition but didnt use real name and surname, but confirmed email..does it count

[am386]

it has been made quiet clear in many threads that you can easly make up a new email address on hotmail in 2 minutes and you dont have to use your full name

eg
joe blogs could be j blogs and how many j blogs are there in ireland

seriously do you really want another attack on an escort to be on your head (if only id signed the petition to allow escorts to work in pairs this escort would have been with a friend and would have had a better chance of survival)

if you cant even sign a petition to make it safer for us you shouldnt be punting

I did sign with my "secondary" email address and a fake name, but not really sure there is any value in that. Comparing the risk of revealing my real name and the value of a single signature on a petition, I would always opt for not signing the petition, as I don't believe that a single signature would save anyone.

[stevo2121]

I also sgned it but I used my e-i user name and second most used email address.

[nicegirlsarenice]

yes one signiture will save someone

as if eveyone gave there one siginture lives will be saved

if everyone think aw il not bother wots one signiture no one would sign and more escorts will get hurt

No I agree with Apollo1. Anyone could be making up the addresses and signing it. According to your logic you should make up another 10 hotmail addresses and sign it again. And if you don't do it and another escort is attacked then it'll be your fault she was attacked.

I also don't think Patricia should be making suggestions at punters' morality and using the slanderous and nonsense allegations of some journalists about client mentality/behaviour as a political football, it's not OUR fault the industry is like this. Most punters got into it for the services, not taking on the responsibility of trying fight for escorts rights... like if you buy a certain type of drink you don't expect the drink-company to come after you with petitions about their rights afterwards. Punters go to escorts not to be guilt and stress-ridden with it like so many other things, that's what we try to get away from.

Where's the hard evidence anyway for legalising it being so much better for the escorts and not just better for Patricia?

[Quarterpoundher]

No I agree with Apollo1. Anyone could be making up the addresses and signing it. According to your logic you should make up another 10 hotmail addresses and sign it again. And if you don't do it and another escort is attacked then it'll be your fault she was attacked.

I also don't think Patricia should be making suggestions at punters' morality and using the slanderous and nonsense allegations of some journalists about client mentality/behaviour as a political football, it's not OUR fault the industry is like this. Most punters got into it for the services, not taking on a responsibility of trying fight for escorts rights... like if you buy a certain type of drink you don't expect the drink-company to come after you with petitions about their rights afterwards. Where's the hard evidence anyway for legalising it being so much better for the escorts and not just better for Patricia?

Someone could put up a thread here about two flies crawling up a wall and it would get more posts on it in 5 minutes then the number of people who so far have signed this petition so it shows just how much some people really don't give a rats ass about the working conditions of these women but are happy to type away and nit pick something positive into the ground.

You don't need hard evidence to know its better for someone to have the legal option to have another person to call on in the event of a problem.

Its basic common sense of the simplest kind.

[Czarcasm]

Someone could put up a thread here about two flies crawling up a wall and it would get more posts on it in 5 minutes then the number of people who so far have signed this petition so it shows just how much some people really don't give a rats ass about the working conditions of these women but are happy to type away and nit pick something positive into the ground.

Thats not true , just because people havent signed the petition doesnt mean that they dont care about the working girls . They might have several reasons for not signing it.

[am386]

I believe an online petition like that even if signed by lots of people is worthless when presented to those who really could change the laws (i.e. the politicians).

I do believe that a petition with lots of support can at least send out a signal. The press is seemingly trying to put a spin on the current situation (i.e. only 25 signatures on the petition) and yes, the signal that is being sent out is that the law as it stands is fine, although exactly the opposite is the truth.

I encourage every punter who reads this to sign the petition, you don't need to sign with your real name or with your primary and well known email address. While the law probably won't be changed only on the basis of a petition like this, at least a positive signal can be sent out to the world.