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    Hi,

    I find myself quite disappointed in the users of this website this weekend. Not everyone of course, I know there are lots of decent people here, but generally disappointed.

    It is always the way that we work really hard to try to make this website the best and a lot of people don't recognise that at all and are totally critical. I mean issues like reviews, it is generally all complaints and no recognition of all the hard work we are constantly putting in, but hey that's always the way around here and it has it's upsides, all the complainers do drive us to be constantly working to improve things, so it has it's advantages, and you guys are the customer and we are the service provider, so I think this is fair enough all in all.

    But, firstly the PETITION...

    It wasn't actually my idea, it was another girl in here's idea, but I supported it and said yes, lets do a petition, lets try to get the government to see that this prosecuting of independent escorts with our brothel laws that is going on now is really not right and it is putting escorts in danger.

    Here at E-I, all of us, from the advertising staff on the phone to the people in IT, to me, hear about attacks on escorts all too often, we are very aware of the dangers and all too concerningly that, due to the current legal situation, many escorts now don't even feel able to report attacks, so the people committing these crimes are largely getting away with it and continuing on to keep doing it. It's a serious issue. I am upset to see what is going on here, all of the staff at E-I are.

    I certainly thought this petition was worth a try. I didn't expect widespread support from the general public, it's always hard to get support from the public about prostitution issues. I didn't expect that many signatures from escorts, because as you all know, not that many escorts are active on these message boards, it is far more clients that come on here than ladies, due to many issues, not least that English isn't most escorts' first language. I didn't expect that much support from journalists because you can never count on support there. But I expected some support from you guys.

    Whenever the press ask us for comments about clients, I am always defending clients, explaining that you guys are decent people, not abusers of women or whatever Ruhama etc might like to imply, but proper ordinary good guys by in large, men who care about escorts as well as enjoy escort services and will actually be the first people to help escorts if they need it, the last people that would want this industry in a bad state where women are being mistreated etc.

    I've just looked at the petition. Basically 60 journalists that would have been sent cards signed, 10 escorts signed and 10 clients signed. That's how it looks. Yet I know from our traffic statistics that at least 10,000 clients have already seen this petition. So what it is? Do clients all disagree, is that it? Do clients not want escorts to be able to work in pairs for safety? Do clients think it is fair enough that police resources that could be directed at pimps and traffickers are now being directed at independent escorts? Are clients unconcerned that the current situation is that many escorts that are attacked feel unable to go to the authorities? Or it is that clients couldn't be bothered to sign as there is nothing in it for them? I'm afraid I'm thinking the latter might be the closest to the truth in most cases and I am disappointed.

    *Removed by patricia. Until further notice no mention is to be made here of this issue.*

    Well, that's this off my chest! Thank you to the 10 clients who did sign the petition and those of you that don't dedicate your time here to stirring up any shit whenever you possibly can without any regard for the consequences of your actions.

    Myself I'm going to keep doing what I've always tried to do here and run a good website that is fair to clients and escorts and well-run, responsibly run, tries to play a positive role in this industry. If you have nothing better to do here that stir shit, expect to be banned soon.

    Pat x

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    I do in general support the petition itself, but am somewhat reluctant to give up my real name and email address. It is generally not wise and helpful for your private life and career to get your name associated with prostitution, no matter how good the cause is. I am sure many other punters will share this view...

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    ditto............

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    Hi, I just signed this petition but didnt use real name and surname, but confirmed email..does it count

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyCurvybabe View Post
    it has been made quiet clear in many threads that you can easly make up a new email address on hotmail in 2 minutes and you dont have to use your full name

    eg
    joe blogs could be j blogs and how many j blogs are there in ireland

    seriously do you really want another attack on an escort to be on your head (if only id signed the petition to allow escorts to work in pairs this escort would have been with a friend and would have had a better chance of survival)

    if you cant even sign a petition to make it safer for us you shouldnt be punting
    I did sign with my "secondary" email address and a fake name, but not really sure there is any value in that. Comparing the risk of revealing my real name and the value of a single signature on a petition, I would always opt for not signing the petition, as I don't believe that a single signature would save anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyCurvybabe View Post
    it has been made quiet clear in many threads that you can easly make up a new email address on hotmail in 2 minutes and you dont have to use your full name

    eg
    joe blogs could be j blogs and how many j blogs are there in ireland

    seriously do you really want another attack on an escort to be on your head (if only id signed the petition to allow escorts to work in pairs this escort would have been with a friend and would have had a better chance of survival)

    if you cant even sign a petition to make it safer for us you shouldnt be punting
    I hate to say this but how accurate is a petition if you can sign as many times as the amount of email addresses you can make up...? That's why online petitions aren't often used.

    I think though that even getting this sort of thing out in the media is a good idea, and gives positive images of legal prostitution vs illegal pimping, trafficking etc.

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    I also sgned it but I used my e-i user name and second most used email address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyCurvybabe View Post
    it has been made quiet clear in many threads that you can easly make up a new email address on hotmail in 2 minutes and you dont have to use your full name

    eg
    joe blogs could be j blogs and how many j blogs are there in ireland

    seriously do you really want another attack on an escort to be on your head (if only id signed the petition to allow escorts to work in pairs this escort would have been with a friend and would have had a better chance of survival)

    if you cant even sign a petition to make it safer for us you shouldnt be punting
    What a load of horse shit, i cant believe u just said what u did above,so because people dont sign a petition which might not even make any sort of difference as regards government policy towards escorts working in pairs your saying it will be our fault if another escort gets attacked by some pyscho

    Maybe if you are creating posts like the one above perhaps you shouldnt be escorting if you think its so dangerous....

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    Its been explained a few times now, anyone worried about privacy has only to create a once of e-mail address on yahoo or gmail or others and put in a made up name, then confirm the pm you will get to that once of email address. That's it and job done and you never have to even use that address ever again for any reason. You will have done your bit and be able to look the next Escort you see who is on her own and probably on her own due to a stupid and long out of step law with or more violent times in the eye and know you at least tried.

    If nothing else please do it for that reason...
    Last edited by Quarterpoundher; 14-02-10 at 16:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo1 View Post
    What a load of horse shit, i cant believe u just said what u did above,so because people dont sign a petition which might not even make any sort of difference as regards government policy towards escorts working in pairs your saying it will be our fault if another escort gets attacked by some pyscho

    Maybe if you are creating posts like the one above perhaps you shouldnt be escorting if you think its so dangerous....
    She off course is not saying you or anyone else is personally responsible for the actions of another but she is right that people who if they truly care about the safety of those they meet they would sign it regardless of them seeing it as pointless. All change starts somewhere. Obama would not be President if one woman had not refused to give up her seat on a bus, so butterflies can sometimes cause hurricanes further down the line.

    No law ever changes itself, it sits there immobile and unyielding until something happens to show just how much an ass that law really is. This situation with the two women arrested shows just how absurd this particular law is and even if this petition is pointless it adds to the body of evidence that may lead in time to this law being changed.
    Last edited by Quarterpoundher; 14-02-10 at 16:38.

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