Ireland : I'm hating it here

[whiteknight111]

It is not racist or fascist or ignorance to question mass immigration into your country
and it effects which for the working class Irish people have been largely negative.
working class Thats not you Carlos you can avoid to bring escorts on holidays so
I would class you as a champagne socialist
I doubt you have had to compete with an immigrant for a job or housing etc.
Anitaswissle has made anti Irish anti white and genocidal comments and she still has not been banned

Some fun-facts about the African scam

There immigration here is 95% based on fraud, asylum deception and exploitation of loopholes
There population is a massive financial burden on Irish people
There are negative effects in employment, social welfare, housing, crime, health, education
,disease etc etc
e.g. according to CSO prison pop stats Africans crime rate is sevens times irish if the
behavior of them in UK and France is anything to go by its gets far worse in second
generation. Anyone been to London town lately? Anyone in Paris on new years eve??
72 % of Irish people want a reduction in immigrants here *recent poll* despite all the brainwashing
I could continue

Any opposition to this is immediately labelled
RACIST, FACIST, NAZI, ignorance, Ahh sure the irish went to Amercia

When in fact
Pro-mass immigration = ignorance = anti-IRISH racism

All political people are largely silent on the matter and the liberal PC thought Police
that control media. Allow no real dicussion on matter in any media outlet
The truth is airbrushed out as stalin airbrused his Oppostion
As Stalin said
"Print is the sharpest and the strongest weapon of our party."

BBC NEWS | Africa | Nigeria tops happiness survey

[carlos marvado]

It is not racist or fascist or ignorance to question mass immigration into your country
and it effects which for the working class Irish people have been largely negative.
working class Thats not you Carlos you can avoid to bring escorts on holidays so
I would class you as a champagne socialist
I doubt you have had to compete with an immigrant for a job or housing etc.
Anitaswissle has made anti Irish anti white and genocidal comments and she still has not been banned

Some fun-facts about the African scam

There immigration here is 95% based on fraud, asylum deception and exploitation of loopholes
There population is a massive financial burden on Irish people
There are negative effects in employment, social welfare, housing, crime, health, education
,disease etc etc
e.g. according to CSO prison pop stats Africans crime rate is sevens times irish if the
behavior of them in UK and France is anything to go by its gets far worse in second
generation. Anyone been to London town lately? Anyone in Paris on new years eve??
72 % of Irish people want a reduction in immigrants here *recent poll* despite all the brainwashing
I could continue

Any opposition to this is immediately labelled
RACIST, FACIST, NAZI, ignorance, Ahh sure the irish went to Amercia

When in fact
Pro-mass immigration = ignorance = anti-IRISH racism

All political people are largely silent on the matter and the liberal PC thought Police
that control media. Allow no real dicussion on matter in any media outlet
The truth is airbrushed out as stalin airbrused his Oppostion
As Stalin said
"Print is the sharpest and the strongest weapon of our party."

BBC NEWS | Africa | Nigeria tops happiness survey

I was'nt aware that racism was being discussed on this thread..........I just found attempts to portray Anna23's comments regarding hygiene as being racist a bit puerile, as I can see no link between the two in this case.

Agreed that it's not racist or fascist to discuss immigration policy.......given the size of the country and our ability to absorb immigrants, an unfettered immigration regime would be lunacy. That's one issue which pertains to all non-EU nationals incl Anitasizzle, whom you mention. EU nationals are a completely separate issue covered by EU treaties. We enjoy the same rights in their countries as they do here and if we are not prepared to accept this, then let's go back to being an economic backwater with our own currency, high interest rates, tariff boundaries etc. and see where it gets us.

As far as my status as a "champagne socialist" is concerned, I will make no apologies for what I have....I would rather be judged according to what I do and say.....and what I have was not gained as a result of exploiting others...whether Irish or non-Irish.

Our current woes have nothing whatsoever to do with immigrants, EU or non-EU.....they don't run this country or the banks or approve planning applications and rezone and develop land. Native greed, stupidity and gombeenism got us into this mess and pointing the finger in the time honoured fashion at the immigrant, the black, the jew, is just an excuse to try and apportion the blame somewhere else. If our social welfare checks and balances are lax, the problem lies with the same individuals who allowed lax planning and financial regulation to thrive.

As regards housing.......nobody has to compete with immigrants in this respect as there is a vast surplus of housing in the state which was built up during the Celtic Tiger bubble.....just ask any builder trying to sell a house/apartment or any landlord/estate agent trying to let one.

Your statistics regarding immigration scams and the opinions of Irish people regarding immigration are very illuminating.......care to provide a link for the membership?

I just hope that the young Irish, who are once again going to be forced to seek their fortune abroad, are met with a more socialist, or dare I say, Christian response.

Is mise le meas.

Carlos Marvado

[Alec Horan]

I disagreed with XP original comments. Did not want them to be removed though. Sure it might have saved things from getting out of hand but it also saved him from looking stupid.

Well done NGN and Whiteknight- I'm gonna play the race card if you dont mind. Were you two racist along with XP ? Yes is the answer.

If you want a mature debate then please quote all your sources. ie academia/ media / surveys /independent peer reviewed analyis etc. which substantiate any opinions ye may have.

p.s. if your own life sucks and you are'nt the success your momma told you you would be then maybe its your own fault. The easy way out is to blame the weakest members of society.

[capt.pugwash]

How could someones arse be so bad to leave a shitmark.... ( Dave slips off to chech his own sheets)

Yaaarrr that thar is an easy Queery -- tis all the Scurvy provisions ye all munch like Bacon n Cabbage washed down with that thar bilge water ye call Stout
Tis enuff t`give any the Mal de Mer
A fine fish chowder followed by Grogg n dried biscuits will firm yer constitution lads

[jayf1]

Racist comments based on ignorance are one thing, but if Anna23 (who I don't always agree with) states that according to her personal experience of Irish clients, a lot leaves to be desired in the area of personal hygiene, then I personally see no reason for brushing her experiences and valid opinions based on those experiences under the carpet.

If you are one of those clients to whom Anna's comments are not applicable, then I see no reason for you to take offence at anything she has written. She is obviously making a general comment based on her personal observations.

carlos to be honest i dont really care if you see a reason for me to take offence or not.
the fact is i have taken offence and thats all you need to know since i was speaking to the organ grinder not the monkey.

[whiteknight111]

Carlos

Yes you are corrrect the Banker crisis /property bubble is the fault
of elements of the IRISH upper classes and there greed and corruption
And they should be dealt with there must be some legal way of mass punishing
a large group of them blanket treason charge or something.
The incompontence of Fianna Fail leadership esp Bertie Ahern is responable
for the mass immigration and the money crisis


Alex

Ah the Race card Che guevara your aviator has made some nasty racist
comments in his time google it.
I am suprisied and I not been edited and banned already.
Its a question of resouces Jobs,hostipal beds, quality of life, school places etc etc
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...34.html?via=mr
Asylum system broken - Fine Gael - The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 22, 2009
I could contine all night the great thing is truth is on my side

The African is far from the weakest in your society.
Every day on my way home I walk past numerous Irish Homeless before Passing
the asylum seeker centre on welligton road and watch the lads playing pool inside
I have never seen an african homeless?
Is African immigration a good thing for the Irish people?
Whats your opinon Yes or No

[luther]

carlos to be honest i dont really care if you see a reason for me to take offence or not.
the fact is i have taken offence and thats all you need to know since i was speaking to the organ grinder not the monkey.

To that comment...........

[Alec Horan]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...34.html?via=mr[/url]
Asylum system broken - Fine Gael - The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 22, 2009
I could contine all night the great thing is truth is on my side

The African is far from the weakest in your society.
Every day on my way home I walk past numerous Irish Homeless before Passing
the asylum seeker centre on welligton road and watch the lads playing pool inside
I have never seen an african homeless?
Is African immigration a good thing for the Irish people?
Whats your opinon Yes or No

Firstly I do not equate your Stalin avatar and quotes directly with you - I dont imagine that you have condemned millions to death or life in a gulag like labor camp. I presume you do this for a bit of naughty fun, dont you ? Therefore I would imagine that I need not answer for Che. Che was also a qualified Doctor so it would also be wrong of me to accept kudos for that.

With regard to your links-
the first does not work and the second is merely a story about bureaucratic inefficiency.

With regard to the argument re Africans in Ireland. Do you understand the difference between an emigrant and refugee seeker- two very distinct issues.

Is African immigration a good thing ?

There are 2 types of immigrant - refugee -fleeing danger and economic - fleeing poverty. I have no problem with either. We can easily afford it.

I would ask those that do complain
do you have
running water/electricity/access to healthcare/education/social welfare/a vote/transport public and personal/ heating etc.

if people have these and still refuse to help refugees then they will never help anyone because frankly they are too selfish.

[Mousey]

Nothing to see for you on this thread, Westie, carry on towards the Soap Opera

[carlos marvado]

Firstly I do not equate your Stalin avatar and quotes directly with you - I dont imagine that you have condemned millions to death or life in a gulag like labor camp. I presume you do this for a bit of naughty fun, dont you ? Therefore I would imagine that I need not answer for Che. Che was also a qualified Doctor so it would also be wrong of me to accept kudos for that.

With regard to your links-
the first does not work and the second is merely a story about bureaucratic inefficiency.

With regard to the argument re Africans in Ireland. Do you understand the difference between an emigrant and refugee seeker- two very distinct issues.

Is African immigration a good thing ?

There are 2 types of immigrant - refugee -fleeing danger and economic - fleeing poverty. I have no problem with either. We can easily afford it.

I would ask those that do complain
do you have
running water/electricity/access to healthcare/education/social welfare/a vote/transport public and personal/ heating etc.

if people have these and still refuse to help refugees then they will never help anyone because frankly they are too selfish.

I'm starting to like this thread......it's giving me a sort of warm Bolshevik feeling.....now if we could just send all the dirty arses to Uncle Joe's gulag, all would be happiness and contentment.