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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterpoundher View Post
    nothing changes without a push now and then
    I completely agree, it's almost 'too irish' of us to say "let's sit back and say nothing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarty View Post
    In June of this year when I heard a senator was trying to push through legislation regarding making it illegal to pay for sex I sent the following to every Senator's email address, which is freely available on the senate site. Funnily enough I did not get one reply.
    Perehaps a similar campaign might work.


    " Folks,

    Later on today you are being asked to pass a motion on the banning of looking for the services of prostitutes such as is the case in Sweden.

    Often the Swedish model is touted as the perfect solution but it has been proved to be far from perfect in practice, and has only served to put women in a more vulnerable position. As they are afraid to report an act of violence fearing that they will be prosecuted for being a prostitute.

    Please see re Swedish law problems
    Swedish Prostitution Law: Critiques

    Sex Trafficking claims have often been exaggerated in Ireland by certain interest groups for their ends, while I don’t condone sex trafficking we already have a law that deals with using a victim of sex trafficking for sex and has adequate punishment.
    The Criminal Law (Trafficking in Persons and Sexual Offences) Bill 2006.

    Several years ago in 2006 we had the conclusion of an 18 month operation quest.
    Detective Superintendent John McKeown, who heads Operation Quest at Store St Station, says that there is no evidence that any of the girls are being forced into prostitution, none is underage and most pocket 50 per cent of their earnings.

    He says the oldest profession in the world is experiencing similar benefits of our booming economy as other industries and Dublin is now a highly sought after place to work. And he believes that politicians should considering legalising prostitution in a bid to monitor it properly and offer more protection to girls.

    ¨We have carried out an in-depth investigation into organised prostitution over the past 18 months and we have found no evidence of exploitation or trafficking. There are no gangs involved and there is little violence.

    "The youngest girls appear to be 19 and most are in their 20s and early 30s. We have found no evidence of underage girls working - the pimps don't want to bring that kind of attention on themselves. The girls are working because they want to make money and Dublin is somewhere that they can earn a lot of money," Detective Superintendent McKeown said.

    "I was very surprised when we started this investigation to find that a lot of the old myths regarding prostitution have gone out the window. It is a service that is in demand and there is a lot of money about nowadays. To put it simply, there is room for everyone and plenty of work. The pimps know one another and work side by side. They don't want trouble and there are rarely disputes."

    Prostitution is the oldest profession and it will NEVER go away, any motion to ban the payment for sex will only drive it further underground, thus putting both punters and girls in more risk.

    I urge you to vote down this little though out motion in relation to its consequences.

    What’s my angle I am a man that uses prostitutes, I consider myself an ordinary decent law abiding citizen and I don't fancy being prosecuted for doing something that is not harming anyone. I will back up what the head detective said as I have been with a lot of women and I have never personally felt that the girl was being forced. Also most are good humoured intelligent girls. One girl told me that because of being on the game she had a house in Scotland and Spain fully paid for.

    Rather than this I would suggest having a system like Belgium which allows prostitution in a tolerant zone and they even get the girls to pay taxes, now thats a novel way to get our economy up and running.

    Regards,

    Paul"
    Well done Smarty. It may be that we could organise to bombard politicians with this message. If they get hit enough times they will begin to believe that there are votes involved.

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    I have heard that in some countries, such as the Netherlands and Germany, escorts/prostitutes have been able to legally organize into types of unions. Maybe E-I could try to make contact with some of these organisations to see if they can be of assistance and provide some advocacy in this regard.

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