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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    Sufficient numbers of Irish voters turned out to put Fianna Fail into office after three successive general elections.

    We must be the dumbest f**kers in Europe!
    That has to be the most sensible thing posted on these forums in a long long time.

    We were certainly sucked in by Ahern and his gang duping us into believing that things would be good forever. This crowd couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Superman View Post
    That has to be the most sensible thing posted on these forums in a long long time.

    We were certainly sucked in by Ahern and his gang duping us into believing that things would be good forever. This crowd couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery.
    You can thank somebody above that those gobshites are'nt running this site......otherwise the ladies would have run across the road.

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    Default The main problem is this

    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    Sufficient numbers of Irish voters turned out to put Fianna Fail into office after three successive general elections.

    We must be the dumbest f**kers in Europe!
    most of the hardcore FF followers were of the older generations.A lot of the younger generations didnt really vote at all and thats pretty much how FF got back in so much.

    Its different now.FF have pissed off alot of their older followers with the medical card scare(the biggest blunder in the parties history) and the younger generations are voting now mainly to stop ppl they dont want in,to get in.

    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    most of the hardcore FF followers were of the older generations.A lot of the younger generations didnt really vote at all and thats pretty much how FF got back in so much.

    Its different now.FF have pissed off alot of their older followers with the medical card scare(the biggest blunder in the parties history) and the younger generations are voting now mainly to stop ppl they dont want in,to get in.

    Westside.
    We will see but i think that as we get closer to an election people will look at the alternative and frankly as big a shower of wankers as Fianna Fail are the thoughts of Enda Kenny as Taoiseach will drive people back to FF. The big problem in this country is the lack of a viable alternative there is no difference between Fianna Fail and Fine Gael so you may as well leave the useless bastards that are there than let in a bunch of useless bastards with the same policies you don't know.
    Its the Crips and the Bloods all over again

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    Brian Clown said in November that the FAS head was an "honorable" man and did the "honorable" thing.

    If stroking the Irish taxpayer for a further 1.4 million in your pension is honorable then you can see just how fucked up Clown and the present Govt is including the spineless Greens.

    So if it is all lies you can assume that the pitch for a Yes to Lisbon is also based on a crock of shit.

    The only Jobs it will create is in Poland, Bulgaria, Romania etc.

    If you want to help our east European brothers take more of our jobs by all means vote Yes on Friday.

    But if you want the faceless European Eurocrats to sit up take notice and negotiate a treaty that looks after its citizens rather than big business Vote NO

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    Default well said Smarty

    Quote Originally Posted by Smarty View Post
    Brian Clown said in November that the FAS head was an "honorable" man and did the "honorable" thing.

    If stroking the Irish taxpayer for a further 1.4 million in your pension is honorable then you can see just how fucked up Clown and the present Govt is including the spineless Greens.

    So if it is all lies you can assume that the pitch for a Yes to Lisbon is also based on a crock of shit.

    The only Jobs it will create is in Poland, Bulgaria, Romania etc.

    If you want to help our east European brothers take more of our jobs by all means vote Yes on Friday.

    But if you want the faceless European Eurocrats to sit up take notice and negotiate a treaty that looks after its citizens rather than big business Vote NO
    the way I See it is they are all afraid to make an example of the likes of this cunt as it would set a precedent for his colleagues they are simply all parasites...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarty View Post

    But if you want the faceless European Eurocrats to sit up take notice and negotiate a treaty that looks after its citizens rather than big business Vote NO

    Judging by the polls today , looks like ure fighting a loosing battle.


    nbt

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninebythree View Post
    Judging by the polls today , looks like ure fighting a loosing battle.


    nbt
    The NOers did more harm than good

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    Default The polls are manipulated

    dont believe them.

    I think the Fas scandel and the ministerials expenses being revealed could really damage the yes campaign as more voters who are undecided will vote to punish the gov.

    Westside.

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    Default Another twist in the FAS scandal

    From todays Irish Examiner

    Cowen: Fás boss did not threaten to sue
    By Shaun Connolly, Political Correspondent

    Monday, September 28, 2009


    THE Fás scandal descended to a new level of farce last night as Taoiseach Brian Cowen flatly contradicted evidence given to a Dáil committee and insisted Rody Molloy had not threatened legal action in order to secure his massive pay-off.

    The Taoiseach’s assertion went against testimony by Department of Enterprise secretary general Sean Gorman to the Public Accounts Committee and is also at odds with statements by Green coalition leader John Gormley.

    As the Government again attempted to scramble clear from the mess left in the wake of Mr Molloy’s €1m "golden goodbye", opposition leaders insisted the cabinet’s story was unravelling as "clarifications" were prompting more questions than answers – such as why offer such a lucrative deal if no legal action was threatened?

    Labour leader Eamon Gilmore said it smacked of a "sweetheart deal for a Government friend".

    The row intensified as the Government faced the prospect of a national strike by the IMPACT public service union as Mr Cowen refused to rule out compulsory pay cuts of 5%.

    Mr Cowen added to confusion regarding Mr Molloy yesterday by insisting the huge pay-out had not been secured due to threats of legal action.

    "There was, as I understand it, no threat of legal action," he told RTÉ, adding that he believed Mr Molloy would have been reserving his position in that respect.

    The statement runs contrary to comments by Environment Minister Mr Gormley when asked about the severance deal in the wake of the PAC revelations.

    "We assumed, and everybody assumed, that was the normal package... he then threatened, as I understand it, some sort of legal action... the feeling was from the Tánaiste that this would mean extra money from the taxpayer and as a result she took that action," he said.

    Mr Gorman told the PAC Mr Molloy had made it very clear that he was reserving his right to take court action if he was not treated reasonably.

    Fine Gael enterprise spokesman Leo Varadkar said the Government was in disarray. "The Taoiseach has now contradicted the previous statements the Tánaiste has made and those of her department’s secretary general at the PAC. We need clear answers," he said.

    FG leader Enda Kenny insisted he would have fired Mr Molloy.

    The Taoiseach insisted Mr Molly’s package was "right and fair" as Justice Minister Dermot Ahern drew opposition fire after claiming there was nothing wrong with giving the former director general "another few pound" in order to avoid the threat of "protracted legal action".
    The Truth is out there.

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