Irish Sex Trade

[Westsidex]

Ruhama is an organisation run by mainly a group of nuns (look it up on the web) and they have an agenda to exaggerate the problem in Ireland.

by exagerating the issue they are actually putting the real victims in danger.The problem i have with Ruhama is that its in their interest not to have the issue solved because then they would have nothing to do and actually have to get real jobs.Who knows they might even start escorting.

Westside.

[king george]

has any ever been with a escort under the age of 18 as i never seen this advertised

[RodeoMan]

unfortunatley i would imagine that they are girls in this country forced into been escorts, and the money they earn does not go to them but to the pimps who are pressurising them. I would imagine that the escorts run by agency's are pressurised but I stand to be corrected. On that basis I would not visit an agency as I feel that the girls are not getting all the money plus they are been pressurised to work crazy hours, once again I stnad to be corrected, but lets not pretend it is not out there.

[adogwithabone]

The situation here as I know it is that up to 50% of the girls advertised here have been trafficed in to Ireland. However, this is at their own free will and they have no doubts why they are coming here. I do not believe that there are under 18s operating here, simply because the people behind the trade do not need the hassle that would come with it.
The police seem to patrol the fringes of the scene and will pounce on any any type of pimps, drugs, underage sex, violence etc. Other than that they seem happy to leave the girls and clients alone, whether the girls work for an "agency" or on their own. The girls who work for the agencies tend to be pissed off handing over 50% of their wedge but that seems to be the deal that they signed up to. I do not think that there is any really dangerous element involved with the agencies, I base this on the fact that a number of girls that I have met while working for agencies have been openly able to come back as independents with no more trouble than the odd fake bad review.

[espensen]

The women may be lured into it by a request from punters for women under the age of 18.........

If there was no market for it it would happen less........... sadly there is................

Hmm, ok, but the angle I was taking was their want of money, be it for college or whatever.

[luther]

The situation here as I know it is that up to 50% of the girls advertised here have been trafficed in to Ireland.

How do you know this???

have been trafficed in to Ireland. However, this is at their own free will and they have no doubts why they are coming here.

Is this not a bit of a contradiction???

[adogwithabone]

How do you know this???



Is this not a bit of a contradiction???

I know these things from talking to the girls but my experience is only of Dublin. Most of the girls who are here for the first or second time on 1/2 week stints tend to be imported by agencies. The longer term girls may have come via an agency to begin with but then sort out their own hotel/apartment and advertising in order to keep all the money.
If "traficking" means that girls are forced against their will, then I misuse the term. I thought that it meant to be transported for "illicit" purposes.

[luther]

Your figure of 50% is an estimate or a guess on your part and not a known fact???

As for trafficing, there are many definitions but The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, defines human trafficking as the "recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation."

I'd take it as meaning something bad............

[ber]

Your figure of 50% is an estimate or a guess on your part and not a known fact???

As for trafficing, there are many definitions but The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, defines human trafficking as the "recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation."

I'd take it as meaning something bad............

Well if ure talking recruitement id deff agree with the 50% figure but would say prob even higher

[espensen]

sometimes, the word "trafficked2, should be replaced with "assisted". Some are assisted/ helped in, to make a quick few bob before moving on. Simple as that. As for "random number, over 1000" women being trafficked in, how do they know, do they do a bloody questionaire at the airports.

Security: Are you being trafficked into ireland?

Escort: Oh absolutely, my first time here, I love your country!

Security: Eh, thanks?

I mean seriously. The statistics are probably just made up, or exagerrated at least to make things worse than they are.