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    Quote Originally Posted by thehighwayman View Post
    I agree with West if they weren't taking supplements they wouldn't be anywhere as fast as they are.
    it should be obvious enough to anyone that to hit the 100 mts under 10 secs the drugs play a big part.

    the thing with Bolt is he wins on his stride.Johnson won from the blocks.I feel Johnson would have destroyed Bolt over a distance of 30 mts or so from the blocks.If you watch Bolts vids you'll see that coming off the blocks he is the same as pretty much everyone else but as the race goes on his stride takes over.He is 6-5 and has long legs for a guy 6-5.His stride is scary and he wont be beaten until his performance starts reversing which always happens with drugs anyway.He is a great runner and holds the fastest of all time but no where near as fast as Johnson off the blocks imho.

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    he wont be champ long,you see with a lot of chemists pulling out of the new goverment scheme poor old mr bolt wont be able to get his regular fix from his local pharmacy.he doesnt live in built up area so he has no access to broadband and with the lack of a quaility bus service to get him to his nearest pharmacy the future is not brite for him.maybe he could play snooker or chess,two gentlemens sports were taking performance enhancein substances is of no benefit at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by WD-40 View Post
    he wont be champ long,you see with a lot of chemists pulling out of the new goverment scheme poor old mr bolt wont be able to get his regular fix from his local pharmacy.he doesnt live in built up area so he has no access to broadband and with the lack of a quaility bus service to get him to his nearest pharmacy the future is not brite for him.maybe he could play snooker or chess,two gentlemens sports were taking performance enhancein substances is of no benefit at all
    But the main aim of snooker is to get as much pot as possible and no one's telling me that's chalk on the table

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterpoundher View Post
    But the main aim of snooker is to get as much pot as possible and no one's telling me that's chalk on the table
    just like the english rugby squad ringing the drug squad when they found a white powdery substance on the pitch............................turned out to be just the try line
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    Quote Originally Posted by WD-40 View Post
    just like the english rugby squad ringing the drug squad when they found a white powdery substance on the pitch............................turned out to be just the try line
    hah haahhhh!!!!! like that.... (but don't tell Carlos... he likes oval balls)

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    If you look at it you'll see johnson won the race off the blocks.He had what looks to be a foot and a half advantage from the start.

    YouTube - Ben Johnson 1988 100m

    Now check out Bolt.

    YouTube - Usain Bolt Berlin 2009 - World's Fastest Man is now even Faster

    Very slow off the blocks.In fact at 0.34 he is struggling for first position but check it out at 0.38.Its only from that point onward when his stride advantage catches up that the pace comes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    If you look at it you'll see johnson won the race off the blocks.He had what looks to be a foot and a half advantage from the start.

    YouTube - Ben Johnson 1988 100m

    Now check out Bolt.

    YouTube - Usain Bolt Berlin 2009 - World's Fastest Man is now even Faster

    Very slow off the blocks.In fact at 0.34 he is struggling for first position but check it out at 0.38.Its only from that point onward when his stride advantage catches up that the pace comes on.

    Westside.
    johnson must have been on something aswell,he was built like a weightlifter not a sprinter.athletics and cycling the amount of drugs is scary,most of them are at it.remember the irish show jumper that won the olympic medal and then we find out the fuckin horse was out of his face.that horse is now an addict and has to giv a piss sample on pearse street every thursday,his live is in ruins.or michelle smith,there was a classic about her.she had so many drugs in her system that when se jumped into the pool she fuckin dissolved,thts why you never here from her.she went like a disprin
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    Quote Originally Posted by WD-40 View Post
    johnson must have been on something aswell,he was built like a weightlifter not a sprinter.athletics and cycling the amount of drugs is scary,most of them are at it.remember the irish show jumper that won the olympic medal and then we find out the fuckin horse was out of his face.that horse is now an addict and has to giv a piss sample on pearse street every thursday,his live is in ruins.or michelle smith,there was a classic about her.she had so many drugs in her system that when se jumped into the pool she fuckin dissolved,thts why you never here from her.she went like a disprin
    johnson was banned at the Qlympics for using Stanozolol, an anabolic steriod named Winstrol.In that same race the second place and after johnsons ban ,first place,Carl Lewis used testosterone.A doctor was due to testify at the Ol committee but received death threas and so pulled out of the talks.Testoserone is an Androgenic Steriod while Winstrol is an anabolic steroid.Androgenics are way stronger,more peowerful and also more toxic to the body with more side effects.What happened with Johnson is i reckon he switched off the stronger stuff and ontop the milder stuff in the weeks preceeding the finals and hoped he would get away with it but he was screwed.

    Sprinting in and of itself is an anaerobic activity.Its non cardiovascular and increases testosterone production by the body.This is why good sprinters are muscular and solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    it should be obvious enough to anyone that to hit the 100 mts under 10 secs the drugs play a big part.

    the thing with Bolt is he wins on his stride.Johnson won from the blocks.I feel Johnson would have destroyed Bolt over a distance of 30 mts or so from the blocks.If you watch Bolts vids you'll see that coming off the blocks he is the same as pretty much everyone else but as the race goes on his stride takes over.He is 6-5 and has long legs for a guy 6-5.His stride is scary and he wont be beaten until his performance starts reversing which always happens with drugs anyway.He is a great runner and holds the fastest of all time but no where near as fast as Johnson off the blocks imho.

    Johnson was screwed by the Americans,
    Westside.
    dont get ure logic here westie its the 100 mts dosent matter where u are at 30 mts its at 100mts that counts, same as no medals for being first at 10 miles in a marathon, what u are saying applies
    in every type of racing its not about the start its about the finish.
    What u are sayying is that if there was a 30mt race johnson would win it ,but there isnt and u are
    judged on the distance u choose to run and i would hazard a guess that the top speed bolt achieves is much greater than johnsons

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    Quote Originally Posted by ber View Post
    dont get ure logic here westie its the 100 mts dosent matter where u are at 30 mts its at 100mts that counts, same as no medals for being first at 10 miles in a marathon, what u are saying applies
    in every type of racing its not about the start its about the finish.
    What u are sayying is that if there was a 30mt race johnson would win it ,but there isnt and u are
    judged on the distance u choose to run and i would hazard a guess that the top speed bolt achieves is much greater than johnsons
    what im saying is that Johnson doesnt have a great stride.He was a far more explosive man and a far better sprinter than Bolt.However speed is speed regardless of how it is acheived and Bolt deservedly holds the record now.

    My 30mts logic was simply saying that in the 100 mts ,at this point in the race Johnson would be ahead of Bolt.Its only from the halfway mark onward is when Bolt turns great (his stride advantage) before this point isnt anything special.In other words at the 30mts mark of the 100mts Johnson would hammer Bolt.

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