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    There seems to be a lot of speculation about this, so I am going to clarify once and for all.

    Last week, after some careful investigations, it was discovered that pats bodyguard was operating numerous accounts here in addition to pats bodyguard, namely:

    niceboysarenice
    Bigbadjohn
    bigmoma69
    bruce forsyth
    clarence hilten
    eoghan
    gene hunt
    hulkhogan
    jasus
    lordparker
    nick cotton
    princecharming
    snot lizzy
    willie dynamite

    A number of these profiles were "troll" profiles. By that I mean they weren't comedy profiles that had just been used for a bit of fun, they were profiles that had been created with the sole intention of causing trouble on this site, breaking rules, posting abusive messages etc.

    I do not think it is acceptable for us to have a mod who, whilst working as a mod, is deliberately causing trouble on this site via troll profiles. This was totally unacceptable to me and this was the final straw for me.

    A previous issue had been Pat's Bodyguard's sly unbanning of banned users. A user would cause trouble on this site, a member or staff or a mod would ban the user, then 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 days later the ban would mysteriously be lifted and the banned user would be back posting. This was Pat's Bodyguard's idea of a "joke" but it wasn't actually very funny at all and it caused a good deal of hassle.

    Pat's Bodyguard was also very unhelpful and unconstructive towards me personally on several occassions recently. He wanted all these changes made to the reviews system, but because I couldn't do them all immediately he started acting like a spoilt child throwing his toys out the pram. Anyone who thinks I have time for this crap is sorely mistaken. The reason the reviews systems changes can't all be done instantly is that we are working flat out here. I can't tolerate people who are so immature they throw fits over not getting everything they want when they want it in these circumstances. No progress will ever be made if I spend all my days pandering to tantrum throwers.

    There was also the ongoing issue which I had spoken to Pat's Bodyguard about numerous times over the last few months - His inability to be a team player and acting against the spirit of the modding concept. Numerous other mods wrote to me privately on numerous occassions over the last few months about issues related to Pat's Bodyguards conduct. Some of the other mods found it very difficult to work with him, and despite my talking to Pat's Bodyguard about this and explaining to him what the problems were numerous times, he essentially always ignored me and kept doing whatever he had been asked not to. Essentially, I don't think he wanted peace, I think he wanted war, and he took the piss out of me for really trying to make peace, by just ignoring me and making me waste more and more time on this crap when really he never had any intention of getting along with the other mods.

    After I found out about the troll profiles last week I talked to our staff about Pat's Bodyguard and my own staff told me they couldn't put up with Pat's Bodyguard anymore. It was just too much of a headache and they couldn't deal with his crap anymore. My staff have never said this to me before about any user of this website, let alone a moderator, and really I can't have the lovely girls of E-I feeling unable to go on because of one mod who is hellbent on causing trouble.

    This mass resignation of mods threat rumour is untrue. There was no mass threat of resignation from mods over this issue last week, not one single mod threatened to quit over this last week, and in fact I did not even discuss this decision with the mods last week, I was far too busy to, I only discussed it with my staff. However, there was a long history of other mods finding it very hard to work with Pat's Bodyguard, and I did personally feel last week that this situation had gotten so bad that, if I let it go on, other mods would leave over it, as they just wouldn't be able to put up with it anymore. Who knows if I was right or wrong, but that was how I felt. If my saying I felt that way is what started this rumour about a mass resignation I am sorry, but please allow me to clarify now that it was how I felt, there were no actual resignation threats.

    Thank you

    Pat x

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    Please let there be peace.

    No more fighting.

    Just peace and love.
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    Now this makes very interesting reading...

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    So one person was behind 15 profiles in all
    Talk about a split personality , his medicine cabinet must be overflowing !
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    Odd that one of my complaints against BBJ being appointed a mod in the first place was the number of profiles he operated. This was completely ignored by Patricia at the time and now she offers a list of profiles in the explanation of his demodding. At lot of the profiles you listed were in use by Bbj when you appointed him and your list is incomplete.

    Now BBJ was a mod if he was intent on trolling he knew how trolls are detected yet he made no effort to hide his tracks and when asked if it was him he confirmed it the truth is BBJ is a messer and he was a messer when you appointed him and he was messing with these profiles as he always has before and since you appointed him.


    Lastly on the resignation threat why is your post so carefully worded continually refering to last week. So was the resignation threat before last week or this week. Do you deny that there was ever a resignation threat and that is what led you to your belief of a mass resignation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    At lot of the profiles you listed were in use by Bbj when you appointed him and your list is incomplete.
    Yes some were, and also some were only used for comedy purposes. I don't object to all these profiles, but take a look at his more recent ones like niceboysarenice, that's what I have a problem with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Lastly on the resignation threat why is your post so carefully worded continually refering to last week. So was the resignation threat before last week or this week. Do you deny that there was ever a resignation threat and that is what led you to your belief of a mass resignation.
    There were no resignation threats last week or any other week.

    However my own staff told me last week they could no longer work with PB, not that they were going to resign over this, but that they couldn't work with PB anymore, i.e. they weren't able to continue supporting him as a mod.

    A few mods, over the last few months, did tell me they were finding it was becoming impossible to work with PB. Again not a resignation threat, but when mods are telling me PB is doing things that make it incredibly difficult for them to do their role, I ask PB to stop doing these things continually but he doesn't, I can only guess that those mods suffering his crap are not going to hang around forever if the shit just never stops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Yes some were, and also some were only used for comedy purposes. I don't object to all these profiles, but take a look at his more recent ones like niceboysarenice, that's what I have a problem with.
    So the truth is you have a problem with one of his profiles and that you were well aware of most of the profiles on that list before now but you addded them for dramatic effect.

    Pity you would not give us the list before now or give us a list of the other profiles of the current moderators.



    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    There were no resignation threats last week or any other week.

    However my own staff told me last week they could no longer work with PB, not that they were going to resign over this, but that they couldn't work with PB anymore, i.e. they weren't able to continue supporting him as a mod.

    A few mods, over the last few months, did tell me they were finding it was becoming impossible to work with PB. Again not a resignation threat, but when mods are telling me PB is doing things that make it incredibly difficult for them to do their role, I ask PB to stop doing these things continually but he doesn't, I can only guess that those mods suffering his crap are not going to hang around forever if the shit just never stops.
    well you are now telling a different story in public than you did in private where you specifically named 3 mods that had threatened to resign.
    Which version is the truth?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    well you are now telling a different story in public than you did in private where you specifically named 3 mods that had threatened to resign.
    Which version is the truth?????
    Sorry, who did I say this to when? I don't recall ever discussing this with you? For God sakes spit it out man if you have something to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Sorry, who did I say this to when? I don't recall ever discussing this with you? For God sakes spit it out man if you have something to say.
    I never said you discussed with me I said you said one thing in private and now a different thing in public.
    Now I don't know what part of that you are having difficulty understanding so I will repeat it.

    You named 3 mods who you said had threatened to resign in a pm now you say there was never a threat to resign clearly both statements cannot be true.
    Obviously I can't post the message here without your permission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    I never said you discussed with me I said you said one thing in private and now a different thing in public.
    Now I don't know what part of that you are having difficulty understanding so I will repeat it.

    You named 3 mods who you said had threatened to resign in a pm now you say there was never a threat to resign clearly both statements cannot be true.
    Obviously I can't post the message here without your permission.
    Private messages are private Stewie. That's why they are not allowed be posted here. Why is it that you are reading private messages that I obviously sent to someone else, because we've established have we not that I didn't send any private messages to you on this matter?

    The only thing I can think is that you are talking about private messages I sent to PB, and not recently, but weeks / months before he was de-modded?

    I know why PB was de-modded and it was to do with his own conduct. I also know I didn't speak to one single mod about PB in the week or two before I de-modded PB so I'm quite sure I didn't do that as a direct result of any mod saying anything about the issue to me.

    If you are talking about weeks / months before I de-modded PB, yes, there were a LOT of problems between PB and other mods, and yes at times I did feel it was getting to the point where if PB didn't stop doing ABC then XYZ other mod(s) may have left, as XYZ mods were telling me they didn't know what to do about PB's crap, it was making them feel they couldn't go on. I have already admitted this have I not?

    It's not the reason PB was de-modded, but it was one of several problems that occurred in the last few months before PB was de-modded, call it a contributing factor to his being de-modded if you like, the fact he just couldn't help causing problems for other mods for his own amusement, not the main reason he was de-modded in the end, but yes it was a problem and yes other mods complained to me about it and yes I did fear other mods may quit over it.

    I must have written to PB 20 times at least about such issues, not in the last few weeks, but in the last few months, very long private messages, explaining exactly how his conduct was causing problems for other mods.

    I really tried to get PB to stop his troublemaking. I didn't want to de-mod PB. I wasted many an evening writing long letters to PB telling him how much I wanted him to stay on as a mod, but that his behaviour at times was making it impossible for the other mods to get on with their modding.

    I did give PB examples of how his conduct was causing problems for other mods, specific examples naming other mods on several occassions, because I wanted to make him understand fully what he was doing wrong, so he could stop.

    Is this what you are getting at? Somewhere in the mass of letters I wrote to PB over the last few months he was a mod, did I say somewhere that he was backing me into a corner where if he didn't stop his crap X Y Z mod was likely to quit. Perhaps I did. That was certainly how I felt many a late night sat writing to PB trying to make peace, when I'd really have loved to have just gone to bed instead.

    And for all my efforts to make peace, for all my efforts to support PB as a mod despite all the hassle he caused me, the thanks I get from PB is that he's found somewhere in the mass of letters I sent him somewhere where I said something like that three other mods were on the verge of quitting over something he did, and he has sent you on here now, to see if you can cause some trouble with this info?

    PB has abused this site in every way he can since being de-modded, and this is just bitchyness to the extreme. Are you sure you and him aren't girls, you sure sound like it? Just think what I could say about PB here, given all I know about him from having spent so long trying to work with him. But I'm not a low down skanky bitch like you two so I don't have to stoop to the level of passing around private communications and trying to use them against others. Sometimes when you trust another human being you get your trust abused. I wrote endless PMs to PB trying to get him to change his behaviour. The thanks I get for that is all my PMs gone over by a pair of bitches until eventually you think you have found a couple of sentances you can use to call me a liar, discredit mods or do whatever else you can to cause trouble.

    If I said to PB at some point that I thought other mods were going to quit over his conduct, if I named those other mods, then I did. I'm not going back over all my sent messages to check. Not to mention I don't even store all my old messages like you two obviously do as I don't drag private conversations up with people in public months after they've happened. If I said anything like you are saying it was a good while before I de-modded PB wasn't it Stewie? It's not the real reason I de-modded PB was it Stewie? No it's just the best cheap shot way of attacking me you can think of. Sad, sad, sad. I went out on a limb for PB, I spent many hours privately writing to him to try to resolve all the issues there were and he's just paying me back like this. Bitches, that's all you two are.

    Pat x

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