I was 1 of the 36 in Operation Quest

[Jinxed]

Interviewing punters illegally which this was will will not help any trafficked girl.

IF they want to help trafficked girls the simplest way would be a friendly knock on the door by a female cop with access to interpreters and get speaking to the girls in a language they are fluent in and advising them and offering them protection if they are in fact been pimped. Sadly that would not it appears satisfy Rhuama as they only.seem to.want to persecute men and in reality do not give a shit about the girls.

If any girl that is trafficked for sex here was guaranteed protection and the right to stay and access benefits and work that would be a massive help for girls that find themselves in that position, and minimum 20 year prison sentences for traffickers.

Sadly the easy was is to prosecute a few gullible idiots and damage the business of girls who have chosen this career of their own free will.

I'm not on a crusade with this. But maybe they are building evidence to obtain a warrant. A judge won't sign off on a warrant on the say of a guard alone. There could be a bigger picture in this and maybe the guards are building to something. If the end result is to the benefit of certain girls then I'm all for that.

Gullible idiots, really. Cute enough to buy a burner, sneak off from the wife and park a distance away and scan the area. Those are not the actions of gullible people.

It's not an illegal interview. It's note taking. Nobody made them speak. They spoke willingly.

[homealone1]

I'm not on a crusade with this. But maybe they are building evidence to obtain a warrant. A judge won't sign off on a warrant on the say of a guard alone. There could be a bigger picture in this and maybe the guards are building to something. If the end result is to the benefit of certain girls then I'm all for that.

Gullible idiots, really. Cute enough to buy a burner, sneak off from the wife and park a distance away and scan the area. Those are not the actions of gullible people.

It's not an illegal interview. It's note taking. Nobody made them speak. They spoke willingly.

Maybe I wrongly phrased it, it would not be a statement that could be given in evidence in court.

From experience when a copper is aggressive so to speak they are intending to frighten the person they are talking to more than anything else, if there intentions is to prosecute they will generally make sure everything is by the book so as to stand up in court. No copper likes to have a judge have a go at them in a packed court for not doing their job correctly IMO.

[Jinxed]

They are not going to save any girls this way, as clients are afraid of being prosecuted themselves if they give any useful info.
Btw, Garda badge no should be on their shoulder.

Plain clothes guards wouldn't have shoulder numbers.

The root of the problem is clients. The pimps can't function without clients. The law can't be broken without clients. If you attack the clients you attack the problem. It's easy to give out about this operation but sometimes you have to be objective and try and understand. Too many people here are too close to it so see what they want to see.

[RayDonovan]

I'm not on a crusade with this. But maybe they are building evidence to obtain a warrant. A judge won't sign off on a warrant on the say of a guard alone.

Err.. maybe they could concoct an excuse to enter the premises like they concocted the excuse that BigBen had a smell of cannabis off him, in order to take his phone off him.

If you read up on the 60 year old they prosecuted then you'll find the "we're only concerned for the ladies welfare is a favourite of theirs.

But I think you're just having a wee troll for yourself. No harm in it

[jessicabp]

Very classic !

[TonyB]

If he gave his name and address and they have his phone, he is fucked.
They don't have to arrest or charge him there and then.

[Jinxed]

Maybe I wrongly phrased it, it would not be a statement that could be given in evidence in court.

From experience when a copper is aggressive so to speak they are intending to frighten the person they are talking to more than anything else, if there intentions is to prosecute they will generally make sure everything is by the book so as to stand up in court. No copper likes to have a judge have a go at them in a packed court for not doing their job correctly IMO.

Those notes from that notebook can be used in court. If you speak you own your words forever. You can be charged without ever making a statement. If they believe they have sufficient evidence then a statement makes no difference.

Garda tone makes no difference. A guard does not have to be polite to a law breaker. He only has to get his result.

[mallyman]

I don't think that its right to call this an illegal interview, they didn't force the guy into the car. Certainly I wouldn't have got in unless arrested. If they pressured me I'd be asking can I call into the station in my own time.

you are correct Phil, Its not illegal interviewing,

[Jinxed]

Err.. maybe they could concoct an excuse to enter the premises like they concocted the excuse that BigBen had a smell of cannabis off him, in order to take his phone off him.

If you read up on the 60 year old they prosecuted then you'll find the "we're only concerned for the ladies welfare is a favourite of theirs.

But I think you're just having a wee troll for yourself. No harm in it

No trolling. I believe the safety and well being of women and children to be of paramount importance.

If the guards can frighten one or more men into talking then maybe they can build a picture of what is going on behind the scenes. If they happen upon forced girls then they will cut a deal with any man caught if he offers up proof as they see it of control over girls.

If this is just the Guarda pulling off a pr stunt. Well then fuck them.

But if they are looking into more sinister actions then for this time I would have to agree with the guards, if the end result is the benefit of certain girls and the potential to lock up women abusers.

As for the Misuse of Drugs Act, that's a cheap shot as nobody can refuse a drug search or detention if the guards 'believe' they have witnessed behavior that falls into their profiling. It's bullshit from the guards buts it's legal bullshit and will stand up in court. Edgy behavior, breaking eye contact, flushed face or sweaty hands. That's reason enough to warrant a drug search or detainment.

[mallyman]

There are a large number of Trafficked girls all over Ireland and Northern Ireland, I have the facts, Biggest increase is in Asian ladies but It makes my heart sink when I see members from on here visit them and leave untrue reviews, its not fair on these girls.
These Chinese triad gangs for one are making a million a year from drugs and prostitution and are ruthless. Money comes first and the person last. They just laugh at the Client.

I would like to point out that these pimps are not big burly rough speaking guys anymore but very charming sweet talking ladies, its all a con and do not fall for it.

It is up to us to be responsible too for our actions and not put money in these gangs pockets as you will only encourage them to traffick more vulnerable ladies.
Its what is ruining it for all of us, that why we never will have the respect we should have
Stop and think and report as I do