'Gay cake' appeal: Christian bakers Ashers lose appeal

[Wolverine]

nor is there any evidence of , anyone asking ashers to support anything. All that was asked was for them to decorate a cake

With the slogan "Support gay marriage"

[justfrank44]

With the slogan "Support gay marriage"

??? Surely you are joking? So whatever slogan, salutation or celebration that is put on the cakes they decorate means that the baker is supporting or promoting that event. that is your argument?

[Wolverine]

??? Surely you are joking? So whatever slogan, salutation or celebration that is put on the cakes they decorate means that the baker is supporting or promoting that event. that is your argument?

I'm saying that if the person(s) producing/manufacturing the sign/slogan disagree with the message they should have the right to refuse making it.
Free will.

[alcatel]

The cake debate is stale at this stage. Past its sell by date;-)

[justfrank44]

I'm saying that if the person(s) producing/manufacturing the sign/slogan disagree with the message they should have the right to refuse making it.
Free will.

And in law they have the right to refuse custom, it's just that ashers made such a ham fisted mess of it that they landed themselves in this mess. If they do not want to provide their services in certain circumstances then their staff should be properly trained how to deal with these issues or else get someone higher up to deal with it. But ashers mistakes were firstly to agree to do the cake, and secondly refusing to do the cake for the reasons they gave. That was discrimination.

[Wolverine]

And in law they have the right to refuse custom, it's just that ashers made such a ham fisted mess of it that they landed themselves in this mess. If they do not want to provide their services in certain circumstances then their staff should be properly trained how to deal with these issues or else get someone higher up to deal with it. But ashers mistakes were firstly to agree to do the cake, and secondly refusing to do the cake for the reasons they gave. That was discrimination.

If they refused to make a cake with the slogan "Outlaw gay marriage" is it still discrimination ?

[justfrank44]

If they refused to make a cake with the slogan "Outlaw gay marriage" is it still discrimination ?

I don't think we are on the same page here,The discrimination was not about what was on the cake but about ashers reason for not decorating the cake, correct me if I am wrong.

[Wolverine]

If they refused to make a cake with the slogan "Outlaw gay marriage" is it still discrimination ?

I don't think we are on the same page here,The discrimination was not about what was on the cake but about ashers reason for not decorating the cake, correct me if I am wrong.

Their reason for not decorating the cake was because they disagreed with the slogan.
Please answer my question

[justfrank44]

Their reason for not decorating the cake was because they disagreed with the slogan.
Please answer my question

It would depend on the reason they give for not doing the cake. Is it really that hard to understand?

[Wolverine]

It would depend on the reason they give for not doing the cake. Is it really that hard to understand?

No , not for me. Goodnight.