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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo76 View Post
    I am curious to see, the guards are very stretched as it is, and this will be very difficult to police, but doubtless from time to time they will do token crackdowns. I wonder what most people are planning to do, on both sides, client and escort, going forward.
    stretched on real crime but this is right up their street

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo76 View Post
    I am curious to see, the guards are very stretched as it is, and this will be very difficult to police, but doubtless from time to time they will do token crackdowns. I wonder what most people are planning to do, on both sides, client and escort, going forward.
    They maybe stetched but they will always take the easy ways to make up the numbers that they need to and enforce the laws that are easy to get results on. And with organisations that have lobbied this law having the police to use they will use it to their full advantage. They will have the Gardai plagued with information and calls and will want there work justified. Remember you live in a country of begrudgers This will be a case of we told you so. It's like everything in life keep yourself under the radar and all will be fine. Don't get caught doing stupid things or not being discreet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f1 away View Post
    This law is all well and good on paper but
    The guards has a problem how a they going to proved
    That you hand over money that the only law you brake here handing over the money
    Two people in the one room and both agree no money was hand over what case has the guards got
    No evidence
    not necessarily as i was in a similar situation many months ago and the stupid escort said that i had paid her, they care little about the client as i had found and its the client now that committing the crime,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theomegaman View Post
    They maybe stetched but they will always take the easy ways to make up the numbers that they need to and enforce the laws that are easy to get results on. And with organisations that have lobbied this law having the police to use they will use it to their full advantage. They will have the Gardai plagued with information and calls and will want there work justified. Remember you live in a country of begrudgers This will be a case of we told you so. It's like everything in life keep yourself under the radar and all will be fine. Don't get caught doing stupid things or not being discreet.
    All Ireland would back this new bill, only ones not are the clients and some escorts, i had neighbours, old and young women calling me a dirty cunt for visiting escorts.
    You might think its ok no one knows but no one stupid now, they all know, even if the escort only sees 3 guys a day that is still 20 say a week,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestie View Post
    not necessarily as i was in a similar situation many months ago and the stupid escort said that i had paid her, they care little about the client as i had found and its the client now that committing the crime,
    Is she going to give a statement to the guards
    And then appear in court for them
    For hundred euro that she got of you
    Have her pictures in the paper
    I don't think so
    No case

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    The Gardai aint stoopid. Id be sure they know more than we would think. However, i would be sure theyd be clamping down to set the bar so to speak. You can be sure resources will be available if this comes to pass.

    The fact this is coming through the dail this wk, i fear the worst will happen. Its kinda sneaky !

    If it passes, unless any of the genuine escorts are going to see clients at their own private address ( which is a safety concern ), it will be curtains.

    I would also be weary re the EI website, regardless of where its hosted.

    Its unfortunate that genuine female / male /ts / tv escorts will suffer because of it.

    As for ppl saying dont get caught / be discreet....are you on cloud 9 ? Im sure locations are known to the gardai.

    And for them to proove money passed hands, will ne difficult. But what if your name is in the paper and you've no conviction, being named - damage done !



    I really dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1 away View Post
    Is she going to give a statement to the guards
    And then appear in court for them
    For hundred euro that she got of you
    Have her pictures in the paper
    I don't think so
    No case
    this happened in NI.
    she wont have pictures in the paper as she has committed no crime, i did, i think police pressure got to her and come on do you really think she cares about me or any of us, themselves and their business is the priority

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    Quote Originally Posted by td1 View Post
    The Gardai aint stoopid. Id be sure they know more than we would think. However, i would be sure theyd be clamping down to set the bar so to speak. You can be sure resources will be available if this comes to pass.

    The fact this is coming through the dail this wk, i fear the worst will happen. Its kinda sneaky !

    If it passes, unless any of the genuine escorts are going to see clients at their own private address ( which is a safety concern ), it will be curtains.

    I would also be weary re the EI website, regardless of where its hosted.

    Its unfortunate that genuine female / male /ts / tv escorts will suffer because of it.

    As for ppl saying dont get caught / be discreet....are you on cloud 9 ? Im sure locations are known to the gardai.

    And for them to proove money passed hands, will ne difficult. But what if your name is in the paper and you've no conviction, being named - damage done !



    I really dont know
    Can't put your name in the paper
    Has to be proved first in court

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1 away View Post
    This law is all well and good on paper but
    The guards has a problem how a they going to proved
    That you hand over money that the only law you brake here handing over the money
    Two people in the one room and both agree no money was hand over what case has the guards got
    No evidence
    All laws are connected to other laws and you may not be breaking the one you think. An example is yes it's not illegal to offer the service but is the provider paying taxes on their earnings ? Some are I am sure.
    The whole scenario of not being physically present by the police to see the transfer of money between both parties doesn't really stand up. If they have suspicion or a report by someone of services being offered then they can pursue it. It's unfortunate that the little bit of the law that changes has such huge implications for everyone.
    There is a much bigger picture being missed. They are saying it's all fine to work as an Escort but are you doing everything else legally and are you ligitametly working in the country. For the clients they will be the pawns and the bait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bestie View Post
    this happened in NI.
    she wont have pictures in the paper as she has committed no crime, i did, i think police pressure got to her and come on do you really think she cares about me or any of us, themselves and their business is the priority
    When did this happen
    Not under the new law
    And there was no law to brake before this

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