Legalisation.

[Curvaceous Kate]

Ahh, I get what you are saying now, Legalisation yeah has the possibility of making the work safer, but comes with its own hoops to jump through like any job, and leave a footprint behind you and its accompanying stigma. I never looked at it that way.

Yeah, its only the Eastern half of Australia where Brothels are legalised and regulated, the the West Prostitution is legal, but unregulated and brothels are illegal.

I see your point that the Stigma must be removed, and I think it may become a reality in the next 20-30 Years, but not soon, due to Society and its attitudes.

And I didn't mean to seem as though I advocated brothels, I was just relaying facts is all, no offence intended.

As for the last part of your argument. I was not advocating any part of your closing statement. It was simply that Rapes and Sexual Violence towards Sex Workers were more common, as they were not protected either legally or physically (Bouncers and Bodyguards). And you imply that in the Australian Brothel's girls have no choice, but they do, and they aren't part of a 'line up' either in the vast majority of them.

The Brothels operate as a Bar, the girls inside are Prostitutes and the Client's simply go up and talk to the ones they like, the girl can refuse, or engage with the Client, discuss anything under the sun, including what he/she would like to do, and they go upstairs, the client is checked for STI's and Hygiene, and then and only then do they carry on.

I will end this by saying I have never been to a Brothel nor will I ever visit one, as you said, it doesn't feel as natural as meeting an Escort, spending time chatting and getting to know one another first.

Prostitution and how it should be treated is a serious debate, and needs to be understood better. If Politicians weren't such arrogant fucks they would approach people like you Miss Kate, and others like you, to get a better understanding of what needs to be and should be done.

I can't argue with this post, so instead with thank you for the conversation and for listening to me. There is a lot more to it than just safety, although of course that is important. It's the whole picture that needs addressing, including the lives before and after sex work. I hope for the day where the stigma is eradicated, but I doubt it will be in my life time.

[Larrii]

What is their problem?

You'd bring in something like the New Zealand system. The ladies register and so you can tell if they are trafficked or not. You have mandatory health checks.

They then pay tax on their net earnings. Everything is above board.

Compare to they way they set up "Irish water", and it should be very easy, much cheaper and earn more for the state.

[Curvaceous Kate]

What is their problem?

You'd bring in something like the New Zealand system. The ladies register and so you can tell if they are trafficked or not. You have mandatory health checks.

They then pay tax on their net earnings. Everything is above board.

Compare to they way they set up "Irish water", and it should be very easy, much cheaper and earn more for the state.

To be fair if you are paying tax do you need to register as well? I agree that sex workers should declare their earnings. I do. I am not so keen on things that can change the path of my future though. If you think about it, registering is not going to tell you if someone is trafficked or not, as often people involved with crime are able to hide identity and create new ones. They could just register someone against their will. However, paying tax? Not so attractive to someone who is only interested in the profit they can make off the back of others.

I don't think testing is really an issue either. Certainly not in Ireland. How often do you hear of people catching things and passing them on? Would any of the well reviewed girls continue to be getting good reviews if they were infected with something and passing it on? Most legitimate Independent sex workers will be taking care of their health and therefore yours. The checks are getting done.

The New Zealand law is by far he better option available at the moment though.

[Dgon5576]

It should be legal. No point in making consenting adults criminal