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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvaceous Kate View Post
    Seriously? Wow that is harsh. You do come out with some misogynistic crap some times. Not all drunks are violent and you don't know her circumstances. She may have had no choice but to work. Also maybe she thought it was safer to give him what he wanted rather than to confront him? You can't possibly say she is as bad as him.
    seriously, you are crazy, they may not all be violent but people are not themselves when drunk and can turn so quickly and who in their right mind is going to take the risk, why would you need to, are those that do really so hard up for money that they need to risk letting drunken people in, they tend not to be very discrete either........
    also I think its so disrespectful to the lady to turn up drunk, would never do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by willie wacker View Post
    Better be safe than sorry
    No. 1 Lesson here ,,, NEVER TAKE IN A DRUNK CLIENT !!!!!!
    Some try to get drunk while they are with us. Many people on here have said they take wine and drink it with the person they booked. People can change their mood in an instant. I've had clients come to me after taking coke and many assumed I would have some to use with them. Many assume that we would have been drinking too.

    It seems a bit rich to me that a guys on this forum think that it's as easy as just not seeing someone or asking them to leave. No one wants confrontation in this business, as you never know how someone may react and as they know where you are working at that point you don't want to rock the boat. In this case she may simply have felt it was better to take the booking and get him out than to ask him to leave unsatisfied. She had no way of knowing that he would come back once he had left.

    Some people can be well over the limit and not show it at all. It is easy for us to judge, but until you are in that situation it is best not to make assumptions.

    I would agree though that it is best not to take a drunk client if you can help it and hopefully you would be able to detect that on the phone before making a booking, although that is not always the case, as some may drink before getting there for dutch courage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie in a Bottle View Post
    seriously, you are crazy, they may not all be violent but people are not themselves when drunk and can turn so quickly and who in their right mind is going to take the risk, why would you need to, are those that do really so hard up for money that they need to risk letting drunken people in, they tend not to be very discrete either........
    also I think its so disrespectful to the lady to turn up drunk, would never do it
    I imagine that some are yes. Some may owe money and are being pushed to pay back, some may have sick family members that need their help or children to feed. Some may just want out and work extra hard to try and get the money they need to do that.

    She reacted by her gut instinct in this case and once that person is in the room with you, it is not so easy as to ask them to leave. He could have raped her just for suggesting it.

    So sure I can empathise with the idea of taking what may have felt like the 'easy option' at the time and going ahead with a booking she didn't feel comfortable with, as the alternative may have been far worse.

    I respect the fact that you yourself would not turn up drunk. It's good to hear that from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvaceous Kate View Post
    Some try to get drunk while they are with us. Many people on here have said they take wine and drink it with the person they booked. People can change their mood in an instant. I've had clients come to me after taking coke and many assumed I would have some to use with them. Many assume that we would have been drinking too.

    It seems a bit rich to me that a guys on this forum think that it's as easy as just not seeing someone or asking them to leave. No one wants confrontation in this business, as you never know how someone may react and as they know where you are working at that point you don't want to rock the boat. In this case she may simply have felt it was better to take the booking and get him out than to ask him to leave unsatisfied. She had no way of knowing that he would come back once he had left.

    Some people can be well over the limit and not show it at all. It is easy for us to judge, but until you are in that situation it is best not to make assumptions.

    I would agree though that it is best not to take a drunk client if you can help it and hopefully you would be able to detect that on the phone before making a booking, although that is not always the case, as some may drink before getting there for dutch courage.
    what, i don't believe that for a second, surely you are not that bad to be around, i for one am beginning to find you a very attractive prospect, my sweet sausage
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    Quote Originally Posted by gillyland View Post
    what, i don't believe that for a second, surely you are not that bad to be around, i for one am beginning to find you a very attractive prospect, my sweet sausage
    Oi you're the one with the sausage!!! lol. It has happened twice by my recollection, which isn't too bad in 7 years I guess. I didn't see either of them again

    Off to bed now, as I'm elderly and need my sleep. Night x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvaceous Kate View Post
    Oi you're the one with the sausage!!! lol. It has happened twice by my recollection, which isn't too bad in 7 years I guess. I didn't see either of them again

    Off to bed now, as I'm elderly and need my sleep. Night x
    you can be the one with the sausage too.

    they probably staggered and fell down the stairs and broke their necks on the way out
    , happened me a few times (staggering) as the lifts never work in these places

    on that sobering thought.

    Night
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvaceous Kate View Post
    Some try to get drunk while they are with us. Many people on here have said they take wine and drink it with the person they booked. People can change their mood in an instant. I've had clients come to me after taking coke and many assumed I would have some to use with them. Many assume that we would have been drinking too.

    It seems a bit rich to me that a guys on this forum think that it's as easy as just not seeing someone or asking them to leave. No one wants confrontation in this business, as you never know how someone may react and as they know where you are working at that point you don't want to rock the boat. In this case she may simply have felt it was better to take the booking and get him out than to ask him to leave unsatisfied. She had no way of knowing that he would come back once he had left.

    Some people can be well over the limit and not show it at all. It is easy for us to judge, but until you are in that situation it is best not to make assumptions.

    I would agree though that it is best not to take a drunk client if you can help it and hopefully you would be able to detect that on the phone before making a booking, although that is not always the case, as some may drink before getting there for dutch courage.
    You have an understanding (that others on this thread don't have) of the effect that alcohol can have on a certain percentage of people.
    Happy drunk, angry drunk, mean drunk.
    These terms mean something.

    Some people if they drink rapidly can be on a hairtrigger, the effect is worse if they start in a bad mood when sober and also if they are naturally aggressive /truculent. And the effect is more likely to happen if drinking rapidly. The person can be speaking clearly and walking perfectly but the rapid drinking is altering their mood, it may not be possible to detect drunkenness on the phone, person arrives at the door and is in but is capable of switching mood in an instant. If the drinking continues a blackout is possible. By definition, what happens during a blackout won't be remembered but it is possible to still be walking, talking and capable of causing damage to someone else. A blackout may be the result of a large intake of drink say half an hour earlier.
    Even if not in '' blackout mode''a rapid intake of alcohol can cause a person to be in a vicious /mean mood and be more likely to harm other people. And I repeat, this may not be apparent till the person is through the door.
    And alternatively, such a guy may have had the intention to rob/beat from the beginning and any smell of alcohol may only be incidental. IF walking and talking ok, alcohol won't be smelled through a door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alcatel View Post
    You have an understanding (that others on this thread don't have) of the effect that alcohol can have on a certain percentage of people.
    Happy drunk, angry drunk, mean drunk.
    These terms mean something.

    Some people if they drink rapidly can be on a hairtrigger, the effect is worse if they start in a bad mood when sober and also if they are naturally aggressive /truculent. And the effect is more likely to happen if drinking rapidly. The person can be speaking clearly and walking perfectly but the rapid drinking is altering their mood, it may not be possible to detect drunkenness on the phone, person arrives at the door and is in but is capable of switching mood in an instant. If the drinking continues a blackout is possible. By definition, what happens during a blackout won't be remembered but it is possible to still be walking, talking and capable of causing damage to someone else. A blackout may be the result of a large intake of drink say half an hour earlier.
    Even if not in '' blackout mode''a rapid intake of alcohol can cause a person to be in a vicious /mean mood and be more likely to harm other people. And I repeat, this may not be apparent till the person is through the door.
    And alternatively, such a guy may have had the intention to rob/beat from the beginning and any smell of alcohol may only be incidental. IF walking and talking ok, alcohol won't be smelled through a door.
    drunk is drunk and means youre not capable or in right frame of mind, if a employee comes to my place drunk, hes sent home, simple as that, also shows a lack of respect in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballsup View Post
    drunk is drunk and means youre not capable or in right frame of mind, if a employee comes to my place drunk, hes sent home, simple as that, also shows a lack of respect in general
    I know someone who was self employed and ran a successful business and drank 8 pints a day. He was described by one person as the best driver she knew and she felt safer as a passenger with him driving than most sober people. People that drink frequently build up a tolerance that is difficult to detect by those that don't know them so well. However, this does not mean that they are functioning as well as you would think and as alcatel says they can switch mood very quickly and react OTT or get the wrong end of the stick as their thought process is distorted.

    One last thing. When you are in your work place you are the boss and you have the respect of your employees that rely on you for their wage packet. Try having that same conversation when you are a half naked woman with no history, working discreetly and no built up respect from the other person. He is not relying on her for anything other than relief and doesn't value that much either.

    Very easy to say she should have asked him to leave, but if you really put yourself in her position you would have more empathy about the position that she was in and how difficult it is to do that. He may not have walked away without a fuss, he could have done many things that would have put her work or life in jeopardy and she had to consider that. Do you have to do that when you are at work? Ever worried that a drunk employee may rape you?

    Clients can be unpredictable and this isn't just ones that we have never met before. I have a friend in Scotland who was at a hotel with a regular of hers (sober one) and he asked her for BB. She said no, as this was never going to happen, but he felt that since he had met her many times before she should let him have what he wanted and was very angry with her refusal. Consequently he decided to show her how angry he was by spraying something into her face. He then ran off and left her in the hotel room on her own. She is now partially blind and will never get that site back. Thankfully he was seen getting into his car on CCTV and he got punished for his crime.

    When you consider that even the people we think we can trust are capable of doing things like this, it is (I feel) far more understandable that a sex worker would not try and throw someone out who is likely to be unpredictable due to being drunk. She did what she thought was best. Unfortunately for her he wasn't willing to let it go and she still got hurt, but it is totally unfair to put any of the blame on her for a man coming to her drunk and trying to get fee sex after the event. You guys really do need to cop on and get your head out of the clouds.

    I personally would not work late as this is a situation that is more likely to happen, but I'm one of the lucky ones who have a choice financially as well as independently. We would be pretty silly to believe that we all had that choice and should take this into account. Many do this job as a last resort and many prefer to work at night or need to so it fits in with their life.

    Finally. The guy was an arse hole and needs locking up. Simples!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curvaceous Kate View Post
    I know someone who was self employed and ran a successful business and drank 8 pints a day. He was described by one person as the best driver she knew and she felt safer as a passenger with him driving than most sober people. People that drink frequently build up a tolerance that is difficult to detect by those that don't know them so well. However, this does not mean that they are functioning as well as you would think and as alcatel says they can switch mood very quickly and react OTT or get the wrong end of the stick as their thought process is distorted.

    One last thing. When you are in your work place you are the boss and you have the respect of your employees that rely on you for their wage packet. Try having that same conversation when you are a half naked woman with no history, working discreetly and no built up respect from the other person. He is not relying on her for anything other than relief and doesn't value that much either.

    Very easy to say she should have asked him to leave, but if you really put yourself in her position you would have more empathy about the position that she was in and how difficult it is to do that. He may not have walked away without a fuss, he could have done many things that would have put her work or life in jeopardy and she had to consider that. Do you have to do that when you are at work? Ever worried that a drunk employee may rape you?
    I cant believe what i'm reading, firstly a drunken person in the workplace is a liability, not only is he or she a danger to themselves but also to the people around them. Its my responsibility to look after my employees and see that they are safe so its a no no
    Last edited by Ballsup; 20-07-16 at 09:09.

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