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    Default Mods have problems with humans. What about an EI robot chatbox?

    The mods here think they have problems here with us humans

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35902104

    Microsoft has apologised for creating an artificially intelligent chatbot that quickly turned into a holocaust-denying racist.

    The problem was that a similar chatbox had been used in China with good results. The chatbox had entertained people with its delightful stories.

    But because the chatbox interacts with its audience faced with a less pleasant western audience the chatbox learned to be unpleasant and racist.

    I shudder to think what a chatbox would be like on EI when interacting with some posters. (no names mentioned )

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    The mods here think they have problems here with us humans

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35902104

    Microsoft has apologised for creating an artificially intelligent chatbot that quickly turned into a holocaust-denying racist.

    The problem was that a similar chatbox had been used in China with good results. The chatbox had entertained people with its delightful stories.

    But because the chatbox interacts with its audience faced with a less pleasant western audience the chatbox learned to be unpleasant and racist.

    I shudder to think what a chatbox would be like on EI when interacting with some posters. (no names mentioned )
    The problem here Steve, is the Social Media sites gives trolls a platform to air their true feelings. Nothing will change, until the they shore up the laws (or create new ones) the apply to online activity. Facebook and particular Twitter needs to Invest my money into the censorship of the content that this sites assist in getting out to the world. Too much bullying, discriminatory and down right nasty things being said, without any consequences. And people might say, it's a breach of their freedom of speech, but the fact is if they are not prepared to say it to someone's face, they should not be given the right to say it online. Kids around the world are dying on a weekly basis from online bullying, and shag all is being done. How many lives need to be lost before the make changes And lets not get started on the peeps that only want to incite hatred with their posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Best Before View Post
    The problem here Steve, is the Social Media sites gives trolls a platform to air their true feelings. Nothing will change, until the they shore up the laws (or create new ones) the apply to online activity. Facebook and particular Twitter needs to Invest my money into the censorship of the content that this sites assist in getting out to the world. Too much bullying, discriminatory and down right nasty things being said, without any consequences. And people might say, it's a breach of their freedom of speech, but the fact is if they are not prepared to say it to someone's face, they should not be given the right to say it online. Kids around the world are dying on a weekly basis from online bullying, and shag all is being done. How many lives need to be lost before the make changes And lets not get started on the peeps that only want to incite hatred with their posts.
    I really liked what you wrote hear.

    You see I was a 90ties kid and I am so happy that the technology was not available then so widely as it is now.
    I grew up playing and fighting with other kids in the playground not on a social media platform.

    That does not mean that I have disregard to the younger generation, it means that I feel that they have been deprived of direct contact with another human being.
    their touch, their hugs, their anger, their feelings and emotions in general.
    and once you are deprived of this, it must be very difficult to know how to feel empathy for someone, whose upset or anger or emotions you never witnessed it in person.

    Online you are given this comfort that you can upset someone, log out and walk away without having to look into their eyes, see their tears, the consequence of your actions.

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    Social media is a plague to children today and for the future children to come. As much as I hate social media site, I use Facebook, snapchat, Instagram, not twitter though as I think it is shit.

    There is so much bullying, name calling and just people offending each other and it is a huge problem, much of it for no reason.


    Kids are beating up other kids, and because their mentality isn't very high, they record this and put on these sites, which of course gets them in to trouble.
    A few girls near where I used to live did that and were arrested the next day. They themselves then became victims on the site, people slagging them off, sending threatening messages and other thing.
    This cause one of them to have a mental breakdown afterwards and she was 15 at the time.

    Kids all want to be popular these days and want people to give them so much attention, but when they don't get what, then their fragile minds become messed.
    They are even sending pictures of themselves naked all over the place and this causes a huge problem, not just for them, but for their families and for other people involved.

    I once said on a post over facebook that dance music is not something I would listen too as I think it is horrible music, so one guy decides to reply to my post by slagging of my girlfriend, calling her ugly, when in face she is actually a very attractive girl.
    Of course, I ignored him, in which I know many people are incapable of doing (like a few folk on here ).

    Although these sites do exist, I think that the legal age limit to to gain access to these site should be raised from the age of 13 to a least the age of 16, even 18.

    I have heard stories and seen kids on these site who are becoming emotionally unstable and it really is fucking up their fragile minds.
    Maybe when somebody is old enough to gain their National Insurance, then this would be the only way to access these accounts or even proof of ID, but not many will have this. (I didn't have any till I was 27)

    Even when children use these sites and causing problems for other and for themselves, many adults can act worse, even bullying young children which I think is completely wrong.

    So when I hear the story about how A-I wishes to kill man kind, I understand why, all just because of these sites.

    Mankind itself is still a young species that is learning who and what we are and modern technology (which came in so fast) is affecting each and one of us in different ways.
    We ourselves need to adapt quickly or we are going to kill ourselves and the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLu View Post
    I really liked what you wrote hear.

    You see I was a 90ties kid and I am so happy that the technology was not available then so widely as it is now.
    I grew up playing and fighting with other kids in the playground not on a social media platform.

    That does not mean that I have disregard to the younger generation, it means that I feel that they have been deprived of direct contact with another human being.
    their touch, their hugs, their anger, their feelings and emotions in general.
    and once you are deprived of this, it must be very difficult to know how to feel empathy for someone, whose upset or anger or emotions you never witnessed it in person.

    Online you are given this comfort that you can upset someone, log out and walk away without having to look into their eyes, see their tears, the consequence of your actions.
    I'm like you, but a decade earlier, I escaped the Nintendo revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Floki View Post
    Social media is a plague to children today and for the future children to come. As much as I hate social media site, I use Facebook, snapchat, Instagram, not twitter though as I think it is shit.

    There is so much bullying, name calling and just people offending each other and it is a huge problem, much of it for no reason.


    Kids are beating up other kids, and because their mentality isn't very high, they record this and put on these sites, which of course gets them in to trouble.
    A few girls near where I used to live did that and were arrested the next day. They themselves then became victims on the site, people slagging them off, sending threatening messages and other thing.
    This cause one of them to have a mental breakdown afterwards and she was 15 at the time.

    Kids all want to be popular these days and want people to give them so much attention, but when they don't get what, then their fragile minds become messed.
    They are even sending pictures of themselves naked all over the place and this causes a huge problem, not just for them, but for their families and for other people involved.

    I once said on a post over facebook that dance music is not something I would listen too as I think it is horrible music, so one guy decides to reply to my post by slagging of my girlfriend, calling her ugly, when in face she is actually a very attractive girl.
    Of course, I ignored him, in which I know many people are incapable of doing (like a few folk on here ).

    Although these sites do exist, I think that the legal age limit to to gain access to these site should be raised from the age of 13 to a least the age of 16, even 18.

    I have heard stories and seen kids on these site who are becoming emotionally unstable and it really is fucking up their fragile minds.
    Maybe when somebody is old enough to gain their National Insurance, then this would be the only way to access these accounts or even proof of ID, but not many will have this. (I didn't have any till I was 27)

    Even when children use these sites and causing problems for other and for themselves, many adults can act worse, even bullying young children which I think is completely wrong.

    So when I hear the story about how A-I wishes to kill man kind, I understand why, all just because of these sites.

    Mankind itself is still a young species that is learning who and what we are and modern technology (which came in so fast) is affecting each and one of us in different ways.
    We ourselves need to adapt quickly or we are going to kill ourselves and the planet.
    George Orwell was on to something here

    Great movie, but very disturbing.

    Last edited by Best Before; 26-03-16 at 12:43.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Best Before View Post
    I'm like you, but a decade earlier, I escaped the Nintendo revolution



    George Orwell was on to something here

    Great movie, but very disturbing.

    Being born in the early 80's, I believe that my generation was one of, if not, the last to have a real childhood.
    My first computer was a Spectrum, an Amiga 1200, Nintendo followed on and then the PlayStation and then Xbox.

    When at home, I use my PC mainly to watch TV shows and movies (a little porn maybe )
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    The mods here think they have problems here with us humans
    forgot to tell you Steve, we love humans, with all the shortcomings and little rants and arguments, because this is what people are.
    adorable in their imperfection. unpredictable in the ways they re-act. it is the most rewarding challenge to solve our little verbal disputes.

    I would never replace any of you with bots.

    Going back to the article you are sending the link to, some of the bits made me giggle:

    I quote:

    "But in doing so made it clear Tay's views were a result of nurture, not nature. Tay confirmed what we already knew: people on the internet can be cruel.
    Tay, aimed at 18-24-year-olds on social media, was targeted by a "coordinated attack by a subset of people" after being launched earlier this week.
    Within 24 hours Tay had been deactivated so the team could make "adjustments".
    But on Friday, Microsoft's head of research said the company was "deeply sorry for the unintended offensive and hurtful tweets" and has taken Tay off Twitter for the foreseeable future.
    Peter Lee added: "Tay is now offline and we'll look to bring Tay back only when we are confident we can better anticipate malicious intent that conflicts with our principles and values."
    Tay was designed to learn from interactions it had with real people in Twitter. Seizing an opportunity, some users decided to feed it racist, offensive information."

    what did they expect? Doh.
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