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    To all involved, here is my thought on the "lists"

    I have been an escort for close on 7 years, both as a independant lady residing in London and also as a touring independant lady in various european countries as well as here in ireland. I was in fact one of the first ladies to travel over to ireland on a regular basis, in these seven years i have made an untarnished and exellent reputation for myself with regards to discretion and service, i consider myself a down to earth and genuine lady who is maticulous when it comes to etiquette. As all of you know i never once gotten involved in message board squabbles, however now that this whole situation has come to light and gotten out of hand i feel i need to be dignified and make my honest statement of the fact.

    In these seven years, I have heard of and been the victim of violent attacks, verbal abuse and theivery by clients. Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular but these types of activities occur on a regular basis (we as girls i.e. advertisers, have our own private section, on both this and the other site, where we regularly report these incindences to help each other from experiencing trauma of this nature).
    What we do is just as dangerous, if not more, than being on the frontlines in war...at least in war you know who your enemy is because in this game you dont. Everyday we put our lives and physical health on the line, simply by opening the door and welcoming you into our life for a short while, because this is an intimate industry where acts happen behind closed doors, however I daily meet gentlemen which I dont know from a bar of soap, they could be serial killers, wife beaters or carry a variety of sexually transmittable dieases that could affect my life and future... not only do I have to deal with all of this... but on top of it that, there are ladies who like to stir the pot and post unscrupless messages without any proof just to pull other girls down. I have to deal with hotels that are always on the lookout for ladies, however in all my years i have never been asked to leave, been kicked out, thrown out or told off by any member of hotel staff. In actual fact i have used the same locations for numerous years, as many of my regular gents will verify.

    Because of these prevailant dangers, I now find a useful means of protection (i.e. the list which i was asked to join) is getting blamed for what?... absolutely nothing.....! This list merely allows us to make judgement calls when it comes to accepting appointments... (as i said our lives are on the line). How many of you gentlemen out there can honestly say that this list has caused you any harm... no physical, emotional or social harm has come your way since this list has been in circulation, and believe me its been around for a while...

    If you think about it in context... this list gives you more access to girls than anything else, girls are more trusting of you because there is record of you being a gentleman and a good client... this list is only a protection measure and any of you that are worried need to rather do more of a background check on your choice of escort rather than spend your energy crying about some list that has never once harmed you in any way. Your name has never appeared on this list, nor your full number......thus no evidence. In america, for instance, if you wanted to see a lady you have to give your full real name, drivers id or some form of actual identification when wanting to meet a lady, there is also a site which registers gentleman and stores their details so other ladies can verify them in much the same way. Any lady who regularly travels to the states will verify this also.

    If you were so naive to think that we never kept your numbers on your phones in the first place...then you are mistaken to begin with... Every lady i know of will not meet a gentleman without a mobile phone number, witheld numbers and landlines cannot make an appointment. You hence freely give us the number you punt with when you call us, we keep it as a frame of reference to know that it is you calling when you arrive at our hotel or apartment. With the referencing system that was in place last year, lots of ladies were only meeting verified clients. How do you think you got verified? For example: i call another lady and ask her do you remember bob, you met him in dublin, 6 months ago.... how on earth will she honestly be able to verify him without a phone number...?

    As said so many times before, if you are worried about giving your number out, then why call from a number that you dont want exposed. Most gentlemen have 2 different numbers, one for his personal life and another for his private life.

    All this list has effectivley done is put all the girls good and verified phone numbers into one spread sheet, with no names, half the number showing if you're a good guy... so why the tears...

    If you look at this in perspective, whomever it was that leaked this list to the clients who are claiming that they have a copy on this messageboard, is in fact the person you should be worrying about, and who is clearly happy to share this information with other clients. I have only used the list to my own safety requirements, and tried to help others who might have been a bit nervous to meet a new client. I have never abused the information nor have i given its details to anyone. Whomever gave out the list does not have discrection in mind.

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    Alyssa whom is currently in New zealand, agrees with what i have written and will post shortly with her own response. She is Unfortunately unable to get to a laptop at present but will do so in due course, as she arrives to ireland on Friday.

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    Thank you for coming on and explaining things from your perspective.

    However, I take issue with a couple of your points.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynne View Post
    Because of these prevailant dangers, I now find a useful means of protection (i.e. the list which i was asked to join) is getting blamed for what?... absolutely nothing.....! This list merely allows us to make judgement calls when it comes to accepting appointments... (as i said our lives are on the line). How many of you gentlemen out there can honestly say that this list has caused you any harm... no physical, emotional or social harm has come your way since this list has been in circulation, and believe me its been around for a while...
    If this list was not secret, i.e. if the gents on it had agreed to be on it, I think far less people would see a problem with it. The real problem is that the gents on it did not consent to being on it.

    Also, it could threaten the privacy of many. Now it is being circulated and probably journalists and god knows who else has seen it.

    Irish mobile numbers all start 087/086/085 etc, after that there are only 7 digits. 6 of these digits were included on the list, therefore it is easy to guess the numbers.

    And what about the cases where more notes were written about the guy, like his name or occupation or whatever? I know in most cases notes weren't added, but they were in some.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynne View Post
    If you think about it in context... this list gives you more access to girls than anything else, girls are more trusting of you because there is record of you being a gentleman and a good client... this list is only a protection measure and any of you that are worried need to rather do more of a background check on your choice of escort rather than spend your energy crying about some list that has never once harmed you in any way. Your name has never appeared on this list, nor your full number......thus no evidence.
    You are sounding cocky now which will do you no favours.

    Fair play for coming on here and putting your perspective across, but I think you need to reconsider your views as I don't think this list was harmless or fair on clients.

    Pat x

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    thank you pat for your response, it is appreciated. As i said i am holding my hands up and saying yes i was on the list and did join it once it was created. I will not apologise for my safety.
    I dont mean to sound cocky or rude, i just wanted to come out and say my say in a dignified manner.
    I apologise to anyone i may have offended, i have never posted a full description of a gent, nor a full number of a good client, nor a name. if anything i have described one or two people as very nice.

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    I think its an absolute disgrace & offers escorts the opportunity to do what they wish maliciously with this list, myself I've always given my real name as I always got outcalls so u have to give to give details of hotel room no.etc I've been naive all along discretion my arse

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    Whilst I don't agree with this list, I do understand that ladies are concerned for their safety.

    We considered setting up a bad clients list type thing a while ago, but essentially we found it would be very problamatic legally, with all the data protection issues, so ended up abandoning the idea.

    This is a difficult issue.

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    What can u comment on fact that during discussion on the board girls found out that 'hotel'turns into brothel' and started to wonder 'how to get rid of them without loosing friends?'
    I m still lurking sometimes ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by annasavicha View Post
    What can u comment on fact that during discussion on the board girls found out that 'hotel'turns into brothel' and started to wonder 'how to get rid of them without loosing friends?'
    Anna Anna Anna, how wrong can you be!!! You donīt even know what the conversation was about and trying to speculate now and putting things out of context. Ok let me clarify. That conversation was between me and another escort good friend lovely girl and has NOTHING to do with how to remove girls from the hotel. You just twisted it completely!!! Me and that lovely girl where talking about two friends of her,one her duo partner that where touring with her and they where not discrete at all and where giving my friend headdache because problem clients has come to the hotel. The hotel then was watching them. My friend didnīt want to tour with them anymore and was asking how she can tell them without loosing their friendship. NOT like u suggested how we where planning how to remove other girls from the hotel. There was also another girl there at that time that my friend knew and I stay in that hotel also a day before, and I was saying that Iīm glad I was gone, so many girls in a small place this will turn into a brothel. We where in a small town and small hotel at that time. Iīm amazed how you can take this conversation out of context and turn it into a complete other thing thatīs not true,rideculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Whilst I don't agree with this list, I do understand that ladies are concerned for their safety.

    We considered setting up a bad clients list type thing a while ago, but essentially we found it would be very problamatic legally, with all the data protection issues, so ended up abandoning the idea.

    This is a difficult issue.
    The only reason they are explaining is that they have got caught at it.Otherwise they would say nothing and work away with their list.

    In an industry where a stage name is paramount from the girls prespective surely any girl would understand the need of privacy from the clients prospective.I just got this mail from a guy who will remain anonymous.Have a read,

    See i told you talk of a list would be all over the place soon - do you know anyone by chance who might have access to it - i need to know if i'm on it - i could end up in a bit of trouble if that got out

    What was wrong with this approach.Coming onto the forums and suggesting the list in the same way that some have suggested references?I understand about an escorts safety and the fact that its tricky but from what i can see ,the explainations are coming because they got caught out.Thats what it looks like to me,an attempt to save any lost bus that might occur because of their actions.

    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF View Post
    The only reason they are explaining is that they have got caught at it.Otherwise they would say nothing and work away with their list.

    Exactly west, after wks of denial both here and on iie, particularly by escorts on the list and notably two popular posters here.

    The only reason, that we know about now is because its in someone elses hand other than an escort.


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