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    Quote Originally Posted by DenaliGirl View Post
    "Moral disapproval should never be the basis for State legislation" -- so said Sandra Day O'Connor in so many

    words some time ago , -- which I repeated in the Committee Meeting some three years ago .



    Even the blind can see : this new law proposal has absolutely nothing to do with saving / helping the

    disadvantaged , the 'victims' ! It has no aim to punish traffickers : ye all already have laws against that !

    All it'd need is Enforcing The Law that is already on the books !


    This new bit is based on Moral Disapproval of prostitution as a whole , and until the whole of society is better

    informed on the subject , better educated and cultured in general (not talking down on anyone , we have

    same prob in US -- look at Trump Rising ) , demagogues and bigots will rule the day and unfortunately ,

    set the Law of the Land x
    law has nothing to do with right or wrong, its to be popular and to be seen as tackling something that not really a major problem, its all messed up but Ireland always was

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Libertarian View Post
    I am very reliably informed there will be no time for this law to be introduced, before the Dáil ends
    Harry McGee said the same in the IT yesterday morning, it is not advanced enough to be rushed through by tomorrow.
    Last edited by stillirish; 02-02-16 at 14:05.

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    If it's not guillotined today it falls , as the Dáil will be dissolved tomorrow and the legislation cannot be enacted.

    So , we all have one last chance to make our opinions known to all parties who canvas for our vote .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playitsam View Post
    If it's not guillotined today it falls , as the Dáil will be dissolved tomorrow and the legislation cannot be enacted.

    So , we all have one last chance to make our opinions known to all parties who canvas for our vote .
    So how did that turn out ? X

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillirish View Post
    Harry McGee said the same in the IT yesterday morning, it is not advanced enough to be rushed through by tomorrow.
    Two key pieces of legislation now look certain not to have completed their passage through the Oireachtas before Taoiseach Enda Kenny dissolves the 31st Dáil.

    The Government has tried to expedite the passage of the Technological Universities Bill 2015 and the Criminal Justice (Sexual Offences) Bill 2015 through the Oireachtas before the election was called.

    However, even if the Taoiseach delays the dissolution of the Dáil until later in the week, neither Bill is at a sufficiently advanced stage to allow them to complete all stages and be signed into law.

    Last week Tánaiste Joan Burton sought cross-party support for the Sexual Offences Bill, which will make it an offence to pay for sexual services from a prostitute. However, that was not forthcoming.

    A number of agencies and groups, including the Immigrant Council, have campaigned for this Bill. However, it met with some very strong resistance in the Oireachtas, not least from David Norris in the Seanad, who disagreed vehemently with its premise.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...ment-1.2518713

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    There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip
    There is more time now, for slips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip
    There is more time now, for slips.
    More time now for slips as in cock ups
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Times;
    In all, 253 Acts have been passed during this Government’s five-year Dáil term, the most of any government since the foundation of the State. That compares to 209 Acts for the 2002-2007 Fianna Fáil government, the last time a five-year term was completed.
    While they have been busy implementing new legislation they have done little to enforce existing legislation — if they did they would not need a new sexual offences bill
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    Ha !

    So Rachel and I DID do a wonderful job in averting this horrible new law

    when we testified in the Committee Meeting , ha ! Grilled for like over two hrs !! That was nerve-wracking !!!

    < Claiming full credit for stupid law not being passed >

    x

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenaliGirl View Post
    Ha !

    So Rachel and I DID do a wonderful job in averting this horrible new law

    when we testified in the Committee Meeting , ha ! Grilled for like over two hrs !! That was nerve-wracking !!!

    < Claiming full credit for stupid law not being passed >

    x
    So you are really enda kenny in drag, calling the election to circumvent the passage of the bill.

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