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    Cop New laws criminalising people who pay for sex passed the first hurdle

    http://www.thejournal.ie/criminalisi...72035-Oct2015/

    NEW LAWS CRIMINALISING people who pay for sex have made it through to the next stage in the Seanad.
    Senators have agreed to move the proposals to Committee Stage next Tuesday.
    The Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Bill covers a wide range of areas and includes new offences relating to the sexual exploitation of children, including paying for the purpose of sexually exploiting a child and sexual activity in the presence of a minor.
    Prison sentences of up to 14 years are proposed for offences involving the sexual exploitation of children.
    While the bill criminalises people who pay for sex, it doesn’t decriminalise prostitution. As a result, sex workers hit out at the bill last month saying criminalising the purchase of sex will “hurt the most vulnerable hardest”.
    The Immigrant Council of Ireland said, “A historic moment has been reached in the battle to put pimps, traffickers and thugs out of business.”
    Brian Killoran, Chief Executive of the Immigrant Council added:
    “The decision of Senators to proceed with the Sexual Offences Bill again underlines the widespread political support for the targeting of demand for prostitution and sex trafficking with laws focusing on the buyers of sex.
    There is broad acceptance across the political spectrum about the links between organised crime and prostitution in Ireland and the need to put the gangs behind the trade out of business.
    “We welcome the agreement to proceed swiftly to the next stage of the debate next week when other areas of the bill will be addressed – including the need to ensure that at no stage will women in prostitution be treated as criminals for the exploitation they have endured.”
    Sinn Fin Senator Trevor Clochartaigh also welcomed the move, saying:
    Prostitution is a vicious and brutal criminal enterprise when it allows pimps, traffickers and thugs to exploit women and young girls.
    “The sex trade is now only second to drugs in terms of financing those who are behind Irish crime.”
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    Again is this guy for real?

    Senator Clochartaigh, How do feel about killing people?

    Because IMHO prostitution is one of the positive sides of human nature. Unlike you & your ilk, those "pimps, traffickers and thugs to exploit women and young girls" and mostly independent lady's BTW. In my experience and knowledge don't have the final results that you and your mates do after a first meeting.

    I usually leave happy.

    That's the point I leave senator.

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    Actually getting quite tired of this nonsense now. Let them get on with it and pass the god damned thing. Then test it in the courts. Myself I fully intend to break this law like many others. If you are careful, you would need to be very unlucky to be caught and then it may prove difficult to get you into court and convicted. If I had a wife or girlfriend or a good job which could be lost I might have a different attitude to be honest. As for SF. A total waste of space North and South. They remind more and more of Fianna Fail. I wonder why??? Looks like there will be nobody to vote for next month!!

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    Yeah, I read that online the other night, to be honest I think its a step backwards. I know there is people trafficing and physical abuse on some workers but copying the nordic model is not a step forward. They should have went the other way and tried to regulate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Dunn View Post
    Actually getting quite tired of this nonsense now. Let them get on with it and pass the god damned thing. Then test it in the courts. Myself I fully intend to break this law like many others. If you are careful, you would need to be very unlucky to be caught and then it may prove difficult to get you into court and convicted.
    Amen!

    EDIT - With the wording, everybody who has sex of any type whether they're married, in a relationship, friends with benefits, or one night stands will likely break it. They may as well outlaw sex altogether. It's a hopeless and pointless "law", it's completely dead on arrival before it ever gets started.
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    would you chance it when the law is changed ? Do you think there will be 600+ escorts offering their services here ?

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    wait and see. Prohibition is not the answer to ending demand.

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    Criminalising punters will solve all. If they put half as much work in to fighting real crime. To see old people being mugged rural dwellers living in fear of being robed late night weekend assaults many resulting in death organised crime gangs shooting and spreading fear. And not one fuckin thing being done about it. But if u visit a prostitute or drive ur car without ur seat belt or don't pay ur tv licence or something simple like that which is only a small thing in the big scheme of things.ur are fucked and because we are ordinary people who won't fight back like the real thugs.
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    Pull up your trousers it's all over

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishlad009 View Post
    would you chance it when the law is changed ? Do you think there will be 600+ escorts offering their services here ?

    Sure,look in Northern Ireland. And clients there still put reviews... or look in Sweden, Norway etc where this useless law is on... escorts still there ..and still working...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FetishCherry View Post
    Sure,look in Northern Ireland. And clients there still put reviews... or look in Sweden, Norway etc where this useless law is on... escorts still there ..and still working...
    Thats true, still lots of escorts in belfast. Plus they don't have enough GARDA to enforce anything so it should be safe enough.

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