Moral judgements

[warmcome]

You mean who would we tut at in disapproval the most?

I assume you will eventually make the point that both are bad but one is legal and the other isn't. If cigarettes become illegal tomorrow, after a few months of people protesting, martyrs disregarding the law and then everyone eventually accepting it, people would start tutting at smokers too.

Most law is good. Some law is unjust, (does more harm) as we will all learn more about.

[Floki]

For a heroin user, they only damaged themselves, while a smoker, damages themselves, but also pollutes the lungs of a non smoker.
In the end, doing either is damaging, mentally and physically and both can kill you.

[bettercallsaul]

For a heroin user, they only damaged themselves, while a smoker, damages themselves, but also pollutes the lungs of a non smoker.
In the end, doing either is damaging, mentally and physically and both can kill you.

Unless they share needles or steal to feed the habit.

[samlad]

Most law is good. Some law is unjust, (does more harm) as we will all learn more about.

But that's law generally. I understand laws that are there to protect people, such as being illegal to drive dangerously, but people still do it. There are a stupid lack of laws too, for example, it is legal to smoke or drink, as it costs the health system billions a year, but it isn't illegal because of taxation, keeps people in the health sector in jobs and generates revenue from medical sales. Selling drugs is illegal, but strictly speaking, taking them isn't unless you have enough to warrant intent to supply. The government couldn't morally condone heroine or suchlike because of the stigma of it, although smoking or drinking is just as addictive; it's just that the rate of which it makes you ill or kills you is more short term. Besides, the law make laws to suit themselves. Most politicians are smokers and drinkers too.

[Naughtynatalie]

Unless they share needles or steal to feed the habit.

or convince a friend who is in pain to do it with them, its a bad batch & the friend OD's, the addict leaves them foaming at the mouth to die alone & his kids, family & large circle of friends are devastated with grief! True story.

[warmcome]

One thing that I notice is how powerful LAW is. If something quite natural became ILLEGAL,
a year of conditioning later, stigma would be attached to it. Because this guy is involved
then that is that. What could this do to this industry?

[samlad]

One thing that I notice is how powerful LAW is. If something quite natural became ILLEGAL,
a year of conditioning later, stigma would be attached to it. Because this guy is involved
then that is that. What could this do to this industry?

Well, the industry is illegal in Norway and Sweden but people are still paying for sex. It is just more hush-hush. Growing weed in your attic is very illegal but there is money in it and people still do it because a lot of people are smoking it. Laws are there to deter people doing things by attaching stigma to it (and in a lot of cases, well deserved) as well as a sentence, but laws will never eradicate something especially if people think that they will get away with it (or there is an unlikely chance of getting caught). Having an affair is considered morally wrong, but not illegal, and many people do it even though that this could change their lives if they get caught. It's all about weighing up risk and reward.

[warmcome]

or convince a friend who is in pain to do it with them, its a bad batch & the friend OD's, the addict leaves them foaming at the mouth to die alone & his kids, family & large circle of friends are devastated with grief! True story.

Heroin is unique in that the dose has to be right or there will be death/injury. (Dangerous).
To allow criminal franchises to handle this area is negligent, given these facts. We don't get the morphine that way.

In 2013, 113 died from Methadone in the State and 60 from heroin.

[samlad]

Heroin is unique in that the dose has to be right or there will be death/injury. (Dangerous).
To allow criminal franchises to handle this area is negligent, given these facts. We don't get the morphine that way.

In 2013, 113 died from Methadone in the State and 60 from heroin.

It isn't unique. Viagra is legal but needs to be taken in the correct doses and should only be taken for people that actually need it. Taking it unnecessarily could kill you, as it was initially manufactured as a heart treatment drug.

[warmcome]

It isn't unique. Viagra is legal but needs to be taken in the correct doses and should only be taken for people that actually need it. Taking it unnecessarily could kill you, as it was initially manufactured as a heart treatment drug.

Viagra is supported by the chemist network and lots of instructions with it. Prescription is required in ROI.
I meant amongst the illegal drugs, heroin has a delicate 'dose window' (easy to overdose).