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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    If you suspect that someone is coerced, you should really report it:

    www.escort-ireland.com/trafficking
    My biggest fear Sam is when the new Laws come in, there will be more trafficking done by criminal gangs
    it will go deeper underground and harder to police
    Even if you suspect someone is trafficked, will you be too afraid to go to the proper authorities??
    Will you be charged? etc etc
    Stupid people


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    great point there

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    Quote Originally Posted by willie wacker View Post
    My biggest fear Sam is when the new Laws come in, there will be more trafficking done by criminal gangs
    it will go deeper underground and harder to police
    Even if you suspect someone is trafficked, will you be too afraid to go to the proper authorities??
    Will you be charged? etc etc
    Stupid people
    Yes, why do you think all these sex workers have been trying to protest the new law? For these very reasons. It will also make actual criminal sex work more lucrative. But this is all about a 'moralistic' view on the industry under the guise of an anti-trafficking law, as trafficking statistics are too ambiguous (and publicly lacking) to justify this reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinACE View Post
    thats what I was thinking, an employee, who may not see much of the price charged at all? We don't know at all..
    And who's business is it to know, as an employee the main concern is that she is getting the rate she agreed to work for, it's no employees business to know in any sector how much their boss makes. When you call an electrical firm to send out an electrician do you honestly believe he receives all the money they charge you for his service, the fact she is providing a very personal service is besides the point, she entered into employment freely, what her employer charges for her time is then no longer her concern. Better she then gets the experience to go it alone in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    Yes, why do you think all these sex workers have been trying to protest the new law? For these very reasons. It will also make actual criminal sex work more lucrative. But this is all about a 'moralistic' view on the industry under the guise of an anti-trafficking law, as trafficking statistics are too ambiguous (and publicly lacking) to justify this reason.
    The stupid do-gooders looking through tinted rose glasses


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    Quote Originally Posted by willie wacker View Post
    The stupid do-gooders looking through tinted rose glasses
    They don't want to tackle trafficking, they want it to be someone else's problem and keep Ireland 'pure'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    They don't want to tackle trafficking, they want it to be someone else's problem and keep Ireland 'pure'.
    Same people who protected the church and all
    Ya heard a story about a trafficked girl in Sweden
    The guy reported it to the Police, they went to her place, arrested the next punter who paid a fine, they went back to their station and left the girl there.
    The new laws are only going to be a revenue collection for the government


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    how do you stop drug smuggling? You cant. you can minimize it. the same with all crime.
    "The mass of men live lives of quiet desperation" - Henry David Thoreau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    It is illegal if she is working for someone, but that still doesn't mean she is forced.
    Quote Originally Posted by eirefella View Post
    That's my point, yes illegal but not trafficked or coerced. Most people work for someone else, although it is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen wilfully within the sex industry.
    Quote Originally Posted by KevinACE View Post
    thats what I was thinking, an employee, who may not see much of the price charged at all? We don't know at all..
    Reallistcaly most clients must realise that majority of ladies working at 50-60 euro rates are working for an agency. with a very few exceptions. so out of that they be lucky to keep 25 - 30 euro. thats simply it. its up to every1 to decide if there comfortable with that an visit or dont accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    Ah, you mean coercion. In the eyes of the law, trafficking is just transporting someone from one place to another for the purpose of prostitution, whether they are in control or not. Like, if I was nice and bought a plane ticket for an escort, I would be a trafficker, even if I had no other involvement in what she does. This is the misconception that the Irish government and the likes of Ruhama (the 'rescue agency') are trying to reinforce.

    It's like calling someone who gives their friend a joint for a couple of euros a 'drug baron'.
    Not even buying a plane ticket; if you gave a girl a lift in your car back to her flat, you could be considered to be trafficking her.

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