Charging for time, not services

[Ladyvonteese]

As it will be up to you the client to prove you” the client” are visiting the girl/guy/TV/TS/TG for whatever reason you say and are not in fact there for the payment of any sex acts if you were to be caught:

With the new law which could make it illegal today for guys/girls to buy sex or any sexual act, so my question is when girls advertise in the forum or on their profiles things such as Fu*k my Ass and Hot Wet Pussy, CIM, OWO Drain Me Dry, come over my tits etc. Will it make a difference to you if a girls is adverting sex or sexual services for sale when you now make a booking?

And if a girl/guy/TV/TS/TG changes her way of advertising and makes it more of a discreet advert but still has left a paper trail offering sex acts for sale previously, is it going to make a difference to who you book or will you just keep to your regulars?

Personally as many know I am extremely careful in all advertising I do or don’t do and make it clear anyone visiting me is paying for my time not sex or any sex act here or anywhere else for all and everyone to see (because what happens when I/some others meet clients or friends in all walks of my/there life’s, it is in fact between two consenting adults not some stranger on the internet, at the other end of a phone call or Government officials who also may be watching or chatting too and what I/some may or may not be getting up to in any part of my life’s).
So my next question is, will it make a difference to you guys when booking girls who leave no paper trail or put up such adverts selling sex or will you be more inclined to visiting us discreet girls, keep to those you have met or dose it not matter?

And my last question is when these laws change will it affect if the girl/guys are showing their face in their profile when advertising whether you make a booking with her or not?

Lady Von Teese

[Zoidberg]

I would guess that once a judge had been given proof that you visited an advertising escort, whether you did or didn't do anything, then you are going to get punished. This won't change unless someone takes a landmark case which makes the Garda prove that you paid for sex.

[milkman]

If the escort advertises massage services and actually DOES perform those services then ,very very hard to prove otherwise.

Tbh,the right thing to do is visit the massage service provider, give her a handheld video recorder and position it where the the genuine massage service can be recorded in full , including putting back on your clothes .If you do want a 'quickie' at the end ,then turn off the machine and work away for the extra. Hold the video footage as evidence of your non-sexual encounter in case , youre met by a guard.

[Ladyvonteese]

Not on the massage services honey but of course girls like myself honey, who don’t:
• advertises such as “Fu*k my Ass and Hot Wet Pussy, CIM, OWO Drain Me and My Ass and Pussy Dry etc 50, 100, 200 etc Euros everything included! Or in fact shows my face to the whole world”
• I/those who never and ever will work in a brother.
• Those who never mentions to every Tom, Dick or Harry over the internet, via a phone call, pm, email or to any Government official who maybe pretending to be a client the sale of sex but in fact payment is for our time only
• And I/those who pay their Tax’s to the Government for the work I/they do which is of course is not for being an escort either.
I guess many girls will be going back to collage to learn a real trade of becoming a professional massage therapist so they are able to prove this fact in court if need be, as I am guessing many girls/guys here (but some are) are not real professional massage therapists honey. Loll

If the escort advertises massage services and actually DOES perform those services then ,very very hard to prove otherwise.

Tbh,the right thing to do is visit the massage service provider, give her a handheld video recorder and position it where the the genuine massage service can be recorded in full , including putting back on your clothes .If you do want a 'quickie' at the end ,then turn off the machine and work away for the extra. Hold the video footage as evidence of your non-sexual encounter in case , youre met by a guard.

First of all the Guards have to have the evidence to first believe they have a case toward a person before they are going to be charged for the purchase of sex or a sex act.
Thankfully since the new Law in the European Court if one is convicted after an appeal of a crime here in Ireland or any other European country it can be now be heard there and could be over turned. But can’t see many girls, clients or their families wanting all that publicity from around the world in a case such as prostitution or the payment of it, however I personally would not have a problem with doing so if it was something I felt, so strongly about as I don’t sell sex just my time which there is no law stopping anyone to pay me to spend time in my company.

I would guess that once a judge had been given proof that you visited an advertising escort, whether you did or didn't do anything, then you are going to get punished. This won't change unless someone takes a landmark case which makes the Garda prove that you paid for sex.

[Elizaparkeruk]

Where there is a will there will always be a way... the devil will be in the fine print. You can not arrest a man for having a sex with a woman he met through a website like "Ashlymadison," so how can you prove that they met for financially solicited sex.

It will be hard to prove it.

[Meursault]

Where there is a will there will always be a way... the devil will be in the fine print. You can not arrest a man for having a sex with a woman he met through a website like "Ashlymadison," so how can you prove that they met for financially solicited sex.

It will be hard to prove it.

thats it: meet a woman on a dating site and its ok. Make a porn video and its ok. Take away the camera and it becomes a crime.

[greenie]

timeandcompanionship-ireland.com

im not greedy so someone else can bag the domain name

no dirty talk or touting of dirty activites
all ladies to appear fully clothed
favourites on offer to include such as cooking dinners, washing hair etc but no dirty stuff.

if any dirty stuff happens then keep it to yerselves but be aware god will deal with ye in his own good time.

[tom rambo]

we will have to wait and see what in the new law,change the way we do things now be more careful,i am not goning to stop seen ladies,and on here must be Members only anyone can be reeding this,

[talkabout]

Lighten up.
This putative "law"is not a law -yet.
It is not yet a bill.
Enjoy the next year.
And if you're single and free and easy and caught up in some future brouhaha/contretemps ,just say

Publish And Be Damned.

[Empirical]

The "time and companionship" bit is surely a sort of (attempted) legal cop-out for the website/agency.

I can't imagine that anyone is anyway fooled by what it really means.