Irish justice minister may criminalise clients

[The Libertarian]

It's a bit like banning horse-racing. Some will say it's cruel to the horse. Ban it, and lots of people will organise races anyway.

Ban it, and the government loses several thousand more votes at the next election.

Ban it, and lose the tax you could make from it!

Approx 10% of males have punted as a general rule, I suspect in Ireland it may be 15-20%! If the government wants to bring in laws as per the insane joint Oireachtas committee in part equating punters to child molesters (for merely looking at Escort Ireland!) then there will be a reaction at the ballot box, there's only a certain amount of insanity that can be tolerated even in Ireland!

[english rebecca]

I feel that if this law does come in that there will need to be more trust between the client and the escort.

How can Garda watch every apartment and who is to say if you met in a bar last night or not, even if the lady is an escort. Most ladies do have a sex life outside of work, so it could easily be that. It will not be that simple to enforce.

The Catholic Church, in my opinion, will not condone the naming and shaming of clients. Do they want families broken up and divorces because of this new proposed law?
Abuse and rape may increase as the current outlet that men in Ireland have will decrease.

I believe that if you have a need, then it is better to do so in a non-emotional context with no comeback or pain to the family , rather than entering into an affair or one night stand where in small Ireland , someone may find out and tell someone etc

Just my thoughts. x

[The Libertarian]

I feel that if this law does come in that there will need to be more trust between the client and the escort.

How can Garda watch every apartment and who is to say if you met in a bar last night or not, even if the lady is an escort. Most ladies do have a sex life outside of work, so it could easily be that. It will not be that simple to enforce.

The Catholic Church, in my opinion, will not condone the naming and shaming of clients. Do they want families broken up and divorces because of this new proposed law?
Abuse and rape may increase as the current outlet that men in Ireland have will decrease.

I believe that if you have a need, then it is better to do so in a non-emotional context with no comeback or pain to the family , rather than entering into an affair or one night stand where in small Ireland , someone may find out and tell someone etc

Just my thoughts. x

The Catholic church as part of Magdellan-Ruhama is in part behind this whole insane scam! And we would view it as a start to a return to the good old days!

[The Libertarian]

I feel that if this law does come in that there will need to be more trust between the client and the escort.

How can Garda watch every apartment and who is to say if you met in a bar last night or not, even if the lady is an escort. Most ladies do have a sex life outside of work, so it could easily be that. It will not be that simple to enforce.

The Catholic Church, in my opinion, will not condone the naming and shaming of clients. Do they want families broken up and divorces because of this new proposed law?
Abuse and rape may increase as the current outlet that men in Ireland have will decrease.

I believe that if you have a need, then it is better to do so in a non-emotional context with no comeback or pain to the family , rather than entering into an affair or one night stand where in small Ireland , someone may find out and tell someone etc

Just my thoughts. x

One of the questions a pig will ask a client is the actual name of the lady!
But remember the recommendations have suggested (TOTALY UNCONSTITUTIONALLY!) that escorts be forced out of their acommodation as landlords/hotel owners will be prosecuted for living off immoral earnings! Forcing sex workers on to the street will make the activity much more visible and politicians will pay the price! Also it could render sex workers homeless and without phone access!
If you haven't seen the recommendations they are completely insane and mostly unconstitutional!
RE an increase in rapes resulting as a consequence - certainly sex workers will be vastly more at risk of both physical and sexual assault - it's part of the reason why some TORL groups want this, the other is increased funding for themselves!
But Rebecca have you ever encountered a man through your good work who would have been a potential rapist if he wasn't visiting wonderful ladies such as your goodself? I very much doubt it!
In Sweden there are very high levels of rape which is primarily down to a very liberal interpretation of rape (look at Julian assange!) also higher levels of reporting (which is a good thing!) and according to some Swedes letting every Tom, Dick and Harry into their country so easily! I don't think the passing of this legislation will lead to one more case of incest or rape on non sex working women! It is extremely evil bad law designed to hurt and destroy! and absolutely not one shred of good will come from it! But it will be great for Magdellan-Ruhama, ICI, The Catholic church, insane radical feminists all other sex worker haters and traffickers, nasty pimps and psychotic clients and even child molesters (if people who download EI are to be legally equated to child rapists!)!

[english rebecca]

And if you own your accommodation and the escort cannot be prosecuted?

The Church may have my faith , but they do not have my support.

Night all, Happy Sunday x

[english rebecca]

Having been at both the receiving end of a rapist and the receiving end of a client , I would be happy to inform you that it is not too likely. I will say however that there are quite a few clients over the years that show a pathic (Generic as there are many) behaviours that would lead to support the ideology that he could / would become a rapist. You are not the one in that has the personal hands on experience. Having also worked in several other countries, including those with the " Ideal Model" that it can instigate an increase in violent degradation type of behaviour towards women.
I wasnt asking for an attack, hence why I quoted and I will requote " In my opinion".

Walk a week in an escort's shoes in Ireland and you will find that there are lovely gents as norm, but certainly those individuals who you will put a question mark to as if you were not strong minded with them ,what would they actually be capable of?

Live and learn my friend.

No need to reply as I am only expressing an opinion.

[loveat1stfeel]

Totally agree....Well spoken Rebecca.........

I feel that if this law does come in that there will need to be more trust between the client and the escort.

How can Garda watch every apartment and who is to say if you met in a bar last night or not, even if the lady is an escort. Most ladies do have a sex life outside of work, so it could easily be that. It will not be that simple to enforce.

The Catholic Church, in my opinion, will not condone the naming and shaming of clients. Do they want families broken up and divorces because of this new proposed law?
Abuse and rape may increase as the current outlet that men in Ireland have will decrease.

I believe that if you have a need, then it is better to do so in a non-emotional context with no comeback or pain to the family , rather than entering into an affair or one night stand where in small Ireland , someone may find out and tell someone etc

Just my thoughts. x

[Ramone]

The Catholic church as part of Magdellan-Ruhama is in part behind this whole insane scam! And we would view it as a start to a return to the good old days!

The Catholic Church is a Marxist organisation these days run by lesbian nuns on the ground and homosexual figureheads called Cardinals. They find the idea of sex between a man and woman disgusting, even good old Catholic sex between a man and woman in marriage without contraception! The Catholic Church gave up Catholicism after Vatican II.

[mic1980]

The escort could always come to the punters place especially if he is single that way it wouldn't be as risky to get arrested

[Yamser]

im sorry but correct me if im wrong

we pay for time and companionship ? correct , we do not purchase sex so this should not affect us unless you go to see prostitutes

its like saying i go to the dentist and pay him to work on my teeth but he gives me drugs to num the pain does this mean i paid for drugs ?

no i paid to see the dentist and it happens that this happend while i was there in the consult