Jimmy carter

[dob]

Today's Irish Indo Letter Page : http://www.independent.ie/opinion/le...-30557062.html

And letter three here

[milkman]

Author of said letter is on twitter : https://twitter.com/DervR

In fairness to her like most sociologists who've stuck their head above the parapet the need to deal with poverty and to increase available options to women is key to alleviating selling sex for survival . However , as we know ,TORL will spin every situation towards the need to criminalise clients as the source of these womens' woes.

[milkman]

Apropo of previous post - an excellent piece by same author relating to Honeyball's camapaign :

http://conversationlimbo.wordpress.c...h-not-protect/

[Stephanie]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/irela...yers-1.1914216

Former US president urges Ireland to criminalise sex buyers
Jimmy Carter says law would ‘target pimps and buyers of sex instead of the prostitutes’


The former US president Jimmy Carter has written to Enda Kenny and other members of the Oireachtas urging them to back a justice committee recommendation to criminalise the buyers of sex. Photograph: Brenda Fitzsimons/Irish Times
Pamela Duncan

Topics:
News
Denise Charlton
Jimmy Carter
Committee On Justice
Immigrant Council Of Ireland
Mon, Sep 1, 2014, 07:24
First published:
Mon, Sep 1, 2014, 07:20


Former US president Jimmy Carter has written to the Taoiseach Enda Kenny and other members of the Oireachtas urging them to adopt a recommendation to criminalise the buyers of sex.
Mr Carter backed a recommendation made by the Oireachtas Committee on Justice last year to criminalise those who purchase sex through prostitution.
In an open letter to members of the Oireachtas he encouraged legislators “to act on the recommendations of your justice committee and adopt this transformative approach to ending the exploitation, abuse and trafficking of women and girls”.
Mr Carter said Ireland had made significant progress towards legislation which, if implemented, would target “the pimps and buyers of sex for prosecution instead of the prostitutes”.
“There is little doubt that public exposure in a trial and the imposition of a fine or jail time for a few men who are prominent citizens or police officers who were buying or profiting from the sex trade would prove to be an extremely effective deterrent,” the letter states.
Mr Carter added that proposed measures would also provide long-term funding for exit programmes “to assist prostituted women in escaping exploitation and developing national awareness campaigns to promote the equality of women and reveal the violence, inequality and coercion in prostitution”.
He said the recommendations of the committee, which published its report on Review of the Legislation on Prostitution in June last year, “offer an opportunity for Ireland to take a lead in this important issue and inspire others to follow”.
“I hope that you will lead your nation towards the protection of prostituted women and girls with a sense of urgency,” he concluded.
Denise Charlton, chief executive of the Immigrant Council of Ireland, which briefed Mr Carter on the issue, welcomed his intervention.
“This contribution by a global figure who enjoys international respect again shows the importance of the debate which has taken place here in Ireland and the need for urgent political leadership to bring this issue to a conclusion,” she said.
The Immigrant Council is one of 70 organisations which form the Turn Off the Red Light Campaign, advocating for the partial criminalisation of the industry, as adopted in Sweden in 1999, whereby the sale of sex is not unlawful but its purchase is.
Opponents of this model argue it would worsen conditions for sex workers by driving prostitution underground and leaving prostitutes more dependent on pimps and dangerous clients. They have also questioned the evidence cited in support the effectiveness of the model.

proposed measures would also provide long-term funding for exit programmes


I ask : how much long-term funding would legalization , regulation , taxation provide ? (+License fees)

For exit programs or otherwise.

And as an added bonus people's lives would not be destroyed ; and health and safety would benefit.

But that's just as an added bonus like.

[Stephanie]

"proposed measures would also provide long-term funding for exit programs"


Try to pit the revenue generated from the few dozen / few hundred fines meted out to unfortunate 'punters' ,

against the tax revenue that could be generated from licensing the many hundreds of sex workers in Ireland.

Their argument is laughable.

[Stephanie]

The yanks have caused enough turmoil in the world . I think we are able to look after our own house
without the USA dictating to us. In parts of us cat houses are legal . He's a washed up politician he should head off into
to retirement . That makes me boil yanks preaching look at their own history

Jimmy Carter is a person.

Nothing more.




Your continuous rabid anti US ranting is offensive and tiresome.

Discuss the issue at hand -- if you can.

Otherwise (and in any case) , please do refrain from any xenophobic rhetoric.

[Meursault]

Next will be Clinton, outlining the evils of adultery

[Meursault]

The yanks have caused enough turmoil in the world . I think we are able to look after our own house without the USA dictating to us. In parts of us cat houses are legal . He's a washed up politician he should head off into to retirement . That makes me boil yanks preaching look at their own history

i can only speculate, but i would bet my last euro that the world would be a much worse place without america than it is with it.

[tom rambo]

i can only speculate, but i would bet my last euro that the world would be a much worse place without america than it is with it.

the us need to clean up house,plenty of cat houses in the us,Carter has plenty to do in us,

[dob]

Jimmy carter is only one man, and his influence in the US is considerably less than in Europe, where he is highly respected. He has taken positions in international affairs that are quite contrary to the mainstay of official US policy and probably fit in well with the thinking here. Google jimmy carter and Israel together and you will find some outrageous stuff.

The US laws on prostitution probably are contrary to their constitution, don't know if they have ever been tested.