it works in so far as it can,the problem is what is an amazing visit does not mean another person might fine it so,call it the click factor
No, I think it’s a broken system
Yes I think it is very useful
it works in so far as it can,the problem is what is an amazing visit does not mean another person might fine it so,call it the click factor
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50+ reviews added... just like that!!... Review staff would never notice..Originally Posted by ebonylover1981
The review system is flawed in many ways, but in general it is vital and very useful. But you have to learn how to use it. To a newbie it is perhaps more of a misguidance but to the more experienced it is a crucial tool...
Some tips and the things I look out for...
Broken English probable fake (apologies to all legit non-nationals)
Less than 5 reviews take with a grain of salt...
Read negatives first.
Look for reviewers you know, experienced reviewer, and even then read his other reviews to see if he has similar taste.
With the reviewer you know examine his reviews of girls you know, does he review as you would.
If girl is said by most to be highly attractive and with a great body she normally would not get a "Fairly attractive" from others.
My biggest gripe is when reviewers say "beautiful girl with best body ever"... and I am greeted by Susan Boyle. I take physical descriptions with a grain of salt, and only take heed when I really know the reviewer.
A lot of these tips only work for the experienced. Those that gain experience will value the review system a lot more than those starting out. It just takes time.
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Excellent post. The only thing that I would add is when reading an experienced reviewer's reviews, check to see how many positive. If all are positive, I tend to ignore the reviewer's input. For me the crucial question is "would you see again?" If it is "yes" to all, I ignore him. If there are some "no" and some "maybe", I take the reviewer seriously.The review system is flawed in many ways, but in general it is vital and very useful. But you have to learn how to use it. To a newbie it is perhaps more of a misguidance but to the more experienced it is a crucial tool...
Some tips and the things I look out for...
Broken English probable fake (apologies to all legit non-nationals
Less than 5 reviews take with a grain of salt...
Read negatives first.
Look for reviewers you know, experienced reviewer, and even then read his other reviews to see if he has similar taste.
With the reviewer you know examine his reviews of girls you know, does he review as you would.
If girl is said by most to be highly attractive and with a great body she normally would not get a "Fairly attractive" from others.
My biggest gripe is when reviewers say "beautiful girl with best body ever"... and I am greeted by Susan Boyle. I take physical descriptions with a grain of salt, and only take heed when I really know the reviewer.
A lot of these tips only work for the experienced. Those that gain experience will value the review system a lot more than those starting out. It just takes time.
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I regularly use the search reviews facility.
Unfortunately choosing a lady and her answering her phone are two different things
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thank u too evryone who voted. poll closes tomorrow. i hope the site will take feedback on board and try to improve the review system. i have no faith in it so i dont reviiew.
Any bad experiences that I have had,have been when I saw ladies that did NOT allow reviews.So now,I only see ladies that have reviews or new ladies that allow reviews.Find them a reasonable guide,not perfect but as I said a reasonable GUIDEI have seen a few threads discussing the policy of making it very difficult to submit a bad review. Just two options to keep it very simple. Elaborate with comments if you want to, but try not to get the thread delelted if possible.
Poll is anonymous I think.
Thats if i can get it to work
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Considering that only 2% of people that visit the site actually review, perhaps therein lies the problem..? The overview isn't broad enough?
There was only actually one suggestion to improve the reviews system, and that was about adding a 'was this review helpful?' facility, which I think is a great idea, by the way. If we could elaborate on that, maybe we should include a review reputation based on those votes? Then that way, maybe we have a broader picture of not just the escort, but perhaps the credibility of the reviewer based on public opinion rather than the number of reviews they have submitted.
Do you have any ideas to improve the reviews system, Versace? After all, the reviews system pivots on the reviews and the conduct of the client. If you feel that the reviews system is so flawed and you regard yourself as a genuine, honest client, surely you would want to do something about that and submit your genuine, honest reviews?
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• The policy of not allowing a review if you had an appointment with a lady who wasn’t the lady in the photos favors the bait and switch profiles. This should stop. Some punters may be pressed for time and go ahead with appointment but then want to warn fellow punters what’s going on.It may be seen as buyers remorse but it is helpful to the next punter all the same. Staying is silly but not being allowed to highlight a con is even sillier.
• Escorts who opt out after receiving negative reviews should still carry just the review count on their profile but no content e.g. X does’n’t accept reviews after 8 green and 3 red.
• Negative reviews that don’t pass the ‘not polite enough’ test should be heavily edited, include a moderators comment as to why it was edited and then be published instead of discarded.
• Picture verification is flawed. Pictures and profiles should only be activated while ad staff can verify or red x them. The question mark set up on all those fake profiles with the same pictures evry night is silly. Fake picture warnings shouldstay on profiles. They seem to disappear.
• From my experience 20-30% of appointments are less than good. This isn’t reflected in the number of red or grey reviews published daily. Nearly all reviewers have all green reviews lately. Compare this to reviews from 5 0r 6 years ago when reviewers had around 10-15% red and grey reviews minimum.
• Rating reviews as helpful seems a good idea, maybe the facility to do so should be limited to others who review
Maybe I’m picky but until the ratio of good to bad reviews being published reflect my experiences I don’t think I’ll be adding to the system. I hope this may change and as I say I may have too high expectations due to punting in London and elsewhere as well as Ireland.
Although others have raised the same points
https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...-not-trustable
https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...n-post-removed!
https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...57#post1391157
https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...48#post1326748
https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...s-been-removed
https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...8333-Pointless!
I made a huge effort to spellcheck this post as its long. I hope its legible.
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I like the idea of "was this review helpful" idea.... I think this would work, only if the reviewers endorsing were made public.
Ides to improve the review system?... There is a lot of talk about negatives being deleted or not allowed. This needs to be addressed or explained.
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I will address these points.
- The policy of not allowing reviews when this isn't the escort in the pictures was introduced because more or less every time we activated them, we had the escort contacting us complaining that this was her in the photos, and she could provide a new verification image to prove it. She would send it in and nine times out of ten, this was the girl in the photos. On that basis we would remove the review, then we would have the client complaining at us for it, as he was a 'victim' of a bait and switch. As this was a constantly recurring problem, we decided that the client should take some of the responsibility; we don't delete every review for these circumstances, as if the client declines the booking on this basis, then they can leave the 'not the girl in the photos' review to warn other clients. If the client has already been conned at the doorstep, why would they expect the service to be any better or all favourites available as advertised? We also had a three strike system, so if the client would turn up complaining that this wasn't the girl in the photos, we would put up a note on their profile, and after the third complaint, we would request a new verification photo. This is to account for people saying this just out of spite, however we rarely ever got three strikes for an escort anyway.
- If an escort opts out of reviews, why should the review tally still carry? If she has 8 reviews and nobody can see if they are 8 positive, 8 negative or 4 of each, what would be the benefit? Besides, some escorts opt out because they don't want clients to know how many punters they have seen. When choosing to meet an escort, no reviews or opting out of the system is always something that a client should consider anyway.
- Reviews that are not polite are heavily edited; it's just that if they are edited to such a degree there is little content or the review no longer makes sense, then the reviewer will need to resubmit. Also, many clients are disregarding the 'no sexually explicit content' requirements of the escort. We are also currently looking at a way for reviewers to see why the review was deleted, a sort of 'note box' visible only to the reviewer.
- We have had many, many discussions in the past as to how to improve the photo verification system and nobody can ever come up with a full-proof idea. There are often cases when escorts have to change their photos in the evenings for whatever reason, for example, an ex-boyfriend or family member may catch them out and they need to hide their details. In a lot of cases, this is being abused by some escorts, putting up porn images to hoodwink the more non-savvy punter; this can be a nuisance, I completely agree, but out of 900 escort advertisers, there are probably 6 - 8 people doing this each night, so we aren't going to disable that ability for a few that spoil the whole. Besides, any picture changes fall into the 'awaiting verification' status', and like the opting out of reviews system, this is another thing to consider. The fake photo warnings stay on their profile for 28 days. This is how the current fake photo report system works:
- From your experience, 20%-30% of appointments are less than good. When I look at someone else's reviews, 100% of their experiences are good; when I look at another person's reviews, 50% of their experiences are good. That doesn't really mean anything. You have also not submitted reviews on the principal that you have no faith in the system, so we would not really know how your experiences are. Some clients don't leave negative reviews, some clients only leave negative reviews. It are the clients that really make the reviews system what it is, not us that are trying to moderate it.
I calculated some statistics from January 2010 to March 2013; this is when the online review moderators were processing the reviews. In March 2013 until present, my office based team took over the reviews system. There has actually been a 9% decrease in the number of reviews being deleted, even with a stricter reviewing criteria (i.e. the implementation of the 'not the girl in the photos' rule). There has also been an increase in reviews being submitted, so an average of 250-300 reviews a week between January 2010 and March 2013 to now an average of 350-400 reviews being submitted each week. The office team can also better cross-reference reviews so you would think that we would delete more reviews on the basis of better spotting fake reviewers, but still less reviews are being deleted.
- I could go back in time and pull more threads were people aren't happy with the reviews system over the last few years, and each time, nobody has really come up with a practical, full-proof solution. As I always tell people, the reviews system should be considered a guide, not written fact. A client's perception of an encounter would probably be a world apart from the escort's perspective. These days too, there has been a huge increase in clients threatening (or giving) escorts a negative review should that they not provide discounted/offer not listed favourites/allow extra time/unprotected sex, etc. and this is also flawing the reviews system. These are not complaints after the reviews have come in, these are complaints before any reviews come in. Clients should either a) stop expecting services that will not be provided or b) stop telling escorts that they are going to give them a bad review when they are not happy with the services.
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