on TV few moments ago....

[Patricia]

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[thehighwayman]

The escorts that have been around a while and have good reviews are independent. And also those that post here alot.I agree alot what Gooner says about non EU escorts. But I suspect some pass themselves off as EU on their profiles. It's not easy to tell which are trafficked or not.

[sandie caine]

i actually made this observation before watching patricias clip but they cant just advertise against seeing escorts - surely thats discrimination - not that anyone in authority cares about the rights of escorts.

the clip seems to focus on sex trafficing tho which is fair enough but i worry it might send mixed signals to some and effect business adversly. we have every right to do our jobs.

not that i condone sex trafficing and support any measures to stamp it out. i watched that film Taken the other week and was phsically sickened by it.

a bold move and im interested to see what effects it has.

[carlos marvado]

i actually made this observation before watching patricias clip but they cant just advertise against seeing escorts - surely thats discrimination - not that anyone in authority cares about the rights of escorts.

the clip seems to focus on sex trafficing tho which is fair enough but i worry it might send mixed signals to some and effect business adversly. we have every right to do our jobs.

not that i condone sex trafficing and support any measures to stamp it out. i watched that film Taken the other week and was phsically sickened by it.

a bold move and im interested to see what effects it has.

When TV3 first showed their famous expose of the "Sex Industry", membership in here shot up. We've had anti-drug, anti-drink, safe-sex campaigns for years..............they just end up highlighting these forbidden pleasures and bringing them to more people's attention.

Now that we're in a recession, an advertising campaign is just what's needed to generate even more business.

Either Pat has shares in TV3 or somebody in TV3 has shares in E-I.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BAD PUBLICITY

Just ask Ben Dunne.

[Patricia]

Either Pat has shares in TV3 or somebody in TV3 has shares in E-I.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BAD PUBLICITY

Just ask Ben Dunne.

You'd think I was shagging one of their executives wouldn't you? Who knows? Maybe I am

[sandie caine]

Now that we're in a recession, an advertising campaign is just what's needed to generate even more business.

lets hope so then carlos

[pigsmickey]

The question is. Are punters putting money into the pockets of criminal gangs, because of their control of "some" escorts? and are these gangs the same guys who are shooting innocents and pushing drugs on our youth etc?
We can never be really sure, can we? we dont really know whos independent or agency, and do any so called independents pay any protection money to the gangs???

[Patricia]

The question is. Are punters putting money into the pockets of criminal gangs, because of their control of "some" escorts? and are these gangs the same guys who are shooting innocents and pushing drugs on our youth etc?
We can never be really sure, can we? we dont really know whos independent or agency, and do any so called independents pay any protection money to the gangs???

Organisations like Ruhama who are totally anti-prostitution will always seek to convince the public that trafficking is what prostitution is all about, because that gets public support for their argument that prostitution should be made illegal. They have to do this to get support - If the public were given the real story, the vast majority would not support Ruhama's position, as most of the general public does not have a problem with a man paying a woman for sex, so long as the woman is offering sex for money completely of her own free will.

Of course there is some trafficking and exploitation going on in this industry - much less than Ruhama would have you believe I think, but yes it does go on. However my personal belief is that escort clients can do little about that. Yes of course if an escort client meets an escort he feels may be trafficked or abused, he should try to do something about that, e.g. call crimestoppers or let us know and we'll tell the Garda for him. But clients can not detect all cases of trafficking and abuse.

What would really help combat trafficking and abuse is if Ireland as a nation started providing proper support services for escorts, i.e. a non-religious organisation that will help any escort in trouble without trying to convert her into a nun, and we stopped doing stupid things like putting trafficking victims in jail etc.

If you drive a business like the escort business underground the way it has been in Ireland, you make it easy for exploiters to exploit.

Clients can be a part of the solution by watching out for possibly trafficked women and calling crimestoppers if they are concerned about a lady, but they are not the total solution.

Also, despite what some women's organisations would have you believe, clients do not want to pay for sex with trafficked women. That is a big fat lie. Maybe there is a type of random freak client out there who would like to do that, but 99.9% of clients would be disgusted by the idea of paying a trafficked woman for sex. Sure, why pay at all if you are into sex with an unwilling partner? Crazy, crazy idea, but some women's groups like to make out that's what clients are like.

[Alyssa Jenkins]

I can assure you that most of the touring ladies are independents as highwaymen mentioned that the ladies with reviews and reputations are certainly independent and I would say that we certainly have nothing to do with any criminal organisations either xxx

[westside]

Organisations like Ruhama who are totally anti-prostitution will always seek to convince the public that trafficking is what prostitution is all about, because that gets public support for their argument that prostitution should be made illegal. They have to do this to get support - If the public were given the real story, the vast majority would not support Ruhama's position, as most of the general public does not have a problem with a man paying a woman for sex, so long as the woman is offering sex for money completely of her own free will.

Of course there is some trafficking and exploitation going on in this industry - much less than Ruhama would have you believe I think, but yes it does go on. However my personal belief is that escort clients can do little about that. Yes of course if an escort client meets an escort he feels may be trafficked or abused, he should try to do something about that, e.g. call crimestoppers or let us know and we'll tell the Garda for him. But clients can not detect all cases of trafficking and abuse.

What would really help combat trafficking and abuse is if Ireland as a nation started providing proper support services for escorts, i.e. a non-religious organisation that will help any escort in trouble without trying to convert her into a nun, and we stopped doing stupid things like putting trafficking victims in jail etc.

If you drive a business like the escort business underground the way it has been in Ireland, you make it easy for exploiters to exploit.

Clients can be a part of the solution by watching out for possibly trafficked women and calling crimestoppers if they are concerned about a lady, but they are not the total solution.

Also, despite what some women's organisations would have you believe, clients do not want to pay for sex with trafficked women. That is a big fat lie. Maybe there is a type of random freak client out there who would like to do that, but 99.9% of clients would be disgusted by the idea of paying a trafficked woman for sex. Sure, why pay at all if you are into sex with an unwilling partner? Crazy, crazy idea, but some women's groups like to make out that's what clients are like.

Both Ruhama (who might as well be selling ice creams from their vans) and ypourself are both extreame ends of the same stick.Neither are good for the industry.Just as Ruhama want to end all of it ,you will want it to increase (not neccessarily in a bad way for the girls concerned).Whats needed is a more heathly happy medium approach to the industry.Wont happen though because your profits will fall and Ruhama have to get real jobs.So basically it will stay the same.

Westside.