Hotels v Apartments and Escort Security
I would like to get the opinions of any escorts as to the relative merits of apartments versus hotels for escort work, with a particular emphasis on personal security considerations.
What brought this question to mind, was the recent assault and attempted robbery of Brenda Beauty Babe in Galway. From what I have heard it occured in a hotel room and two men were involved.
Most touring escorts seem to favour hotels and increasingly, escorts based in Dublin seem to tour in other locations from time to time to drum up more business. This may be due to increased competition amongst more escorts and the economic downturn. From a non-escort perspective, I would have assumed that apartments would by and large be safer. Given the increasing number of apartments becoming available (and rents now starting to reduce) escorts have a greater choice to select from and most major cities and towns with a tourist trade also have tourist apartments that can be rented on a weekly or even daily basis. In selecting an apartment, escorts can look for such security features as CCTV, a peep-hole in the apartment door and depending on location, a view of the street outside and the entrance to the apartment block. These features usually don't come with an hotel room. In other words, I would tend to view apartments, especially were more girls are living together as a safer environment, not to mention the other drawbacks of hotels from both the escorts and clients perspective.
Escorting is by it's very nature a risky business, but I wonder, if escorts sometimes try to maximise their earnings potential at the expense of minimising the security potential. Rather than sticking to a safer environment, escorts seem to take unnecessary risks for higher rewards; using hotels for in-calls being one and doing outcalls to clients they don't know well being the other obvious one.
Brenda recently increased her rates for new clients as a result of this attack, and I can't say that I blame her for that, but surely the more sensible approach is to reduce the risk factor where possible. Without wanting to be accused of being flippant, Brenda although she was very unfortunate in being attacked, may have been lucky that what happened to her was not even worse. Other people have been less fortunate in the past. It's one thing for an escort to decide to charge more as a result of a perceived higher risk factor attached to the job, but what price does one put on ones life in pursuit of greater financial reward.
I suspect that this aspect of escort security or something similar has already been dealth with in the escort private discussion section of the site. However, I feel that it is an important issue and deserves a general airing, especially as to my knowledge, many escorts with a limited knowledge of english never make full use of the facilities of the site.
what happened to brenda was not right, but neither is raising her fees, so i afraid heres one less customer
i dont think charging new clients extra will make any differance as by the time that a client is handing over that extra money he is already in the hotel room or apartment at that stage so i cant see how that is going to make anything safer just another way of increasing her prices!!!!
jayf1 and djk, thank you both for your views on Brenda's new pricing policy. Although my thread was inspired by what happened to her, it is not specifically about her or her pricing policy. It's a general industry thread about escorts' attitudes to the risks they are prepared to take for greater gain as opposed to choosing safer options for lesser gain.
Originally Posted by jayf1
Hotels are still safer...
since the law doz not alow more girls working form one appartment I would have to hire a security guy and have a gun on me to feel safer in Appartment. And anyway, my friend has been attacked by a drugie in appartment and she was ther with another 2 girls..
And another 3 girls I know has been attacked in appartment by 2 guys.
Of course, appartments are so much nicer and comfortabel to work from, but who´s going to help you there if your allone..?
To be honest, there is almost every mont girl atacked in her Appartment coz the guys just feel free to do whatever they like and they are not scared for security..They are not scared to come back at the night time...
But in hotels they have cameras and security guys in evenings, and when you scream someone will for sure show up and help you...Of course there are crazy freeks out there that are not afraid to go to hotels...Like the guy in Waterford or the bastard that attacked Brenda..
But as long as I have to be on my own I feel safer in a hotel...
And to you jaf and djk this thread is not about Brendas €50 extra on prices if you wanna talk about that go to the greedy escort thread, and anyway..you guys have no fucking idea what is that girl going tru so please stop judging her for that
Originally Posted by carlos marvado
this didn't help...
View to the entrance, view to the lifts, peep hole.......And accross that came the bastard with gun, so what can I say.....
But CCTV helps a lot, it's a good thing
Originally Posted by djk
There are girls charging 400p/h, so if I'll be charging 500 who gives a fuck..
Originally Posted by jayf1
I can charge whatever I want like everybody.
I don't charging more becoz of the attack, it will not helps.
I'm charging more, coz I had shit clients, so I want better clients.
And I don't wanna waste my time with some silly young boys which still called me or came with few euros in the pocket.
Who hasn't money, he can goes to fuck some sheep.
Originally Posted by mysterious Diana
I'd like to see them how they probably shitting their panties with a gun on the neck and after 20 fisticuffs to the head....
Last edited by Brenda Beauty Babe; 27-08-08 at 11:47.
Originally Posted by mysterious Diana
Your reasons for preferring a Hotel are ones I had not thought of, up till your post I had been of the opinion that apartments were better for both sides, but I see the huge merit if alone in being somewhere with in house security and the general vibe and 24/7 activity that a hotel has that an apartment would not have.
The least the government could do in the interest of Woman’s safety is relax the law you mentioned, that would make it financially viable for two or three to possibly consider dedicated security and spread the cost. It would be a very small amendment in the law, but improve things a lot and make it a viable option.
I only learned yesterday that Brenda was attacked, I would like, as all here would, extend my deepest best wishes to her and anger at the utter scum that exists in this country. You are right Diana that some here do not have clue what they are taking about. It is a terrible facet of this arena that Women have to work with a constant smile under the ever present treat of being attacked with out warning, the fear itself of not knowing when its coming can be the worst, things can be going fine and all of a sudden the atmosphere changes. Violence is violence in any guise or form, the fear of what might happen is always there in the back of your mind and takes on a physical presence and when violence becomes real you lose the ability to even move at times as it drains your energy completely, and for your fate to suddenly not be in your own hands and at the mercy of another is soul destroying. All I could say to Brenda is that that maggot used physical strength to impose his will, but mental strength is immeasurably stronger and inexhaustible and will carry her through this. From her posts, she is obviously a very capable person.
I truly admire the bravery of what you and others do, you open a door with a smile to someone you might never have meet before and create something very personnel and intimate and hope they are not a creep, that is a hard thing to do.
Appartments are alot more discreet for both escort and client. Theres more independence for the ladies as theres no cleners interupting them to leave the room.Theres cctv just like in hotels. It's cheaper for a touring girl to rent one for a week than stay in a hotel for a couple of nights.
The drawback though which is the most important thing is that it's not as safe as hotles. The laws prevent 2 girls staying in an appartment as it's classed as a brothel. Theres a way around this though rent 2 seperate appartments in the one block. As I said before their alot cheaper than hotels. Anyhow they can split the cooking between them and other costs. If something does go wrong with a client her friend is close by. When a client would come and hand over his money and she's satisfied he's ok she can give her friend a quick text while he showers.
About escorts charging extra to put off the less desirable or dangerous isn't a solution. You get rich wankers too who can be dangerous.