A family bakery is going to be sued after refusing to write a pro gay marriage message on a cake.
Is this right? Is it PC gone made??
Read more about it at the Escort Ireland blog
https://www.escort-ireland.com/blog/...-cake-refusal/
Cake Shope Owners to be Sued in Gay Cake Row
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13-11-14, 18:28Martin WardCake Shope Owners to be Sued in Gay Cake Row
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13-11-14, 19:01SteveB
This is a row by mutual consent.
The would-be purchasers of the cake went into the shop with the full knowledge that they would be refused. They went there to be offended.
The cake-shop owners duly obliged and offended them. They could have simply, under contract law, refused to supply a cake without assigning a reason. They did state a reason, a reason that was illegal.
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13-11-14, 19:02Meursault
they should have just written the damn thing on the cake..........this is life. I dont want to do something at work, boss says i have to and hence i do it.
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13-11-14, 19:38funlover12this is my favourite sentence of the weekQuote:
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13-11-14, 19:44Blonde AlexaLol and i thought it's a free country and you can decide how to manage your own things :)Quote:
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13-11-14, 19:44SteveBYou need to get out more.Quote:
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13-11-14, 19:49funlover12I know you are but what am I?Quote:
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13-11-14, 19:52dob
This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute. Business owners should be able to turn away business if they want to, it is called freedom.
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13-11-14, 20:05SteveB
This is the kind of case that brings the equality culture into disrepute.
It has been widely acknowledged that the case is unwise.
Especially when the people who ordered the cake knew the religious beliefs of the bakery owners.
But, under Contract Law, in that jurisdiction, business owners can refuse to accept an order, without assigning a reason.
It was when they gave an allegedly prejudiced reason for refusing the order, that the possibility of legal action arose.
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13-11-14, 20:16wolfie
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13-11-14, 20:19Meursault
sometimes people its easier to just agree and move on. i know they had beliefs and what not, but all they were asked was to do some decoration on a cake, not enrich uranium for Iran. If they had just done what they had done thousands of times i imagine on different cakes, they would not be in court.
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13-11-14, 20:23SteveBAgree and move on. Live and let live. Let consenting adults........etc. etc.Quote:
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13-11-14, 20:36Sexy Sandy 69
In the UK last year a gay couple were turned away from a B & B because the owners were religious & didn't believe in same sex relationships, they too were sued & lost.
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13-11-14, 21:32TonyBI agree. And if I don't want my business wrecked by tossers of any so called minority I should be able to tell them so.Quote:
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13-11-14, 22:11TonyStarkThey have a right to refuse any slogans they don't agree with. I didn't now that Ashers was a christian family buisness until this compete waste of time came up. The gay activists obviously went in knowing full well that they'd get refused service. It's like me going in and asking for a cake with "Atheists Rule" or "IRA/UVF", pretty obvious a christian organisation isn't going to make these.Quote:
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14-11-14, 10:33FatBastardIf I remember correctly they picked out a B&B that was ran by a retired couple who had a known policy of no unmarried couples in a double room regardless of gender. I was a dark day for the LGBT community when they tried to force their belief system on others.Quote:
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14-11-14, 11:22Martin WardHi mate...and to everyone else of course!Quote:
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14-11-14, 19:30ZVN60
The whole thing smells of a set up to me. Why else would you go into a well known Christian bakers asking for a cake celebrating LGBT rights?
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15-11-14, 08:1210inchesandcounting
Well, look at it this way, on this website(the land of the depraved and oppressed) , the greatest majority of escorts state their choices/preferences/liking, and big NoNo, and everybody here respects and accepts it as their choice, right and prerogative, while out there(the land of the just and free)you can only choose from the choice you are given,.. which is theirs...
And now they have the audacity to tell us we are at the low end of the human chain and we need to be regulated!!
It is simply impossible to win this!!
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15-11-14, 11:02ber
Is this a case of not having ure cake and not being able to eat it
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16-11-14, 09:17babehunter
load of aul shite - can i demand anal or sue ????
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16-11-14, 17:11justfrank44Not a great way to run a business. Remember though, they are not allowed to discriminate against a group in that way. And there is still no mention on their website that they will not decorate a cake that has lgbt links. Their terms and conditions do not exclude them. Also , have you any proof that the customer had any idea that ashers would react in this way or that they were diliberatly trying to provoke ashers?Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyStark
There was nothing illegal or offensive being asked for.
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I mean, who wouldn't want Bert and Ernie on their cake.