Woman pleads guilty to brothel keeping
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Woman pleads guilty to brothel keeping in Cork City
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19-04-10, 17:01seanief1980Woman pleads guilty to brothel keeping in Cork City
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19-04-10, 17:04Mousey
Link don't work, Seanie.
Westie, if that IS your real name, you know anything about this? ;) -
19-04-10, 17:05seanief1980
fixed mouse man
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19-04-10, 17:07Mousey
69 counts - whoa, were they keeping an eye on her for a while?
Also, I didn't know there was a Grafton Street in Cork, boyeeeeee...! -
19-04-10, 17:34Taylor of Manchester
What will she get for that then ?
Suspended sentence ? Big fine ? Prison ?
No mention of living off immoral earnings or proceeds of crime.
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19-04-10, 17:37VladiBy Clinton's reckoning, 69 shouldn't count:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymouse
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19-04-10, 17:56seanief1980
From Breaking news ...............
/04/2010 - 16:52:10
Significant developments occurred today in a case where a jury of 12 men was sworn in for the trial of a man and two women accused of organising prostitution and keeping brothels in Cork.
***************************, pleaded not guilty to 69 counts this morning but later in the afternoon she pleaded guilty to five counts of keeping brothels at 18 Grafton Street and 26 John Street on various dates in 2006 and 2007. ******** cried as she was being re-arraigned. Sentencing in her case was adjourned until May 12.
The prosecution then indicated that they were entering a nolle prosequi in the case against ******************************, Cork, who had pleaded not guilty to six similar counts.
Effectively, that means that the Director of Public Prosecutions dropped its prosecution of ****** who now stands cleared of all charges.
Judge Seán Ó Donnabháin told the 12 men of the jury, “There have been significant developments, huge developments. One defendant pleaded to a number of charges and her case is gone back for sentencing and the state has not gone ahead against another defendant. You can put them out of your mind as if they never existed.
“The case that started as a trinity is now down to one,” the judge said.
The one person who now faces trial, commencing at 2 p.m. tomorrow is ********************************, who pleaded not guilty to a total of 69 counts related to the alleged organisation of prostitution and the keeping of brothels at 26 John Street and 18 Grafton Street, Cork, on dates between January 2006 and May 2007.
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19-04-10, 18:38Experienced Punter esq
what about u Seanie u cunt u gambled away the countries fortune on your horrible greedy moronic buddies what about it u cowardly stinking piece of shit I'll find ya ya dopey bastard..
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19-04-10, 19:12WestsidexNo real names on the sitethis was decided on and agreed on by "The Sweetie" (reg tm). We cant stop ppl from posting links to news but we will edit out any real names in posts. Sorry but those are the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanief1980
sounds strange ,i know,
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19-04-10, 19:37VladiWhy leave in the name of the Judge S*** O'D********* in that case m'lud?Quote:
Originally Posted by Westsidex
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19-04-10, 19:42Patricia
Thanks Westie. Yes this is the rule, mainly because it is not just escort agency owners that end up in court on brothel charges, any independent escort who works with a friend can be charged with running a brothel as the law stands. We see independents getting charged with brothel keeping and we feel for these ladies, the last thing we want to do is make matters worse for them by having people discuss their real names here. We can't have different rules for different people, so we have have one rule for everyone, no real names here. People can link to articles but we don't let them post real names here. It also isn't necessary to mention real names to discuss a topic, so we think it is fine to not have them included here.
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19-04-10, 19:44PatriciaThat's a bit different now Vladi, he's not on trial here, he's the judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladi
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19-04-10, 19:48WestsidexAh nowno need to go addressing me by my title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladi
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19-04-10, 19:48MrFussyCan I make the point, that just because a charge arises i.e Brothel Keeping, any escort, regardless of whether working with other girl(s), should never admit to an offence they are not guilty of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patricia
This may seem the 'easy' way out in the circumstances and with the evidence you are faced with, but as this post highlights, pleading guilty to such an offence will result in prosecution and your name etc. published.
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19-04-10, 19:57espensen
there are worse crimes out there and people getting away with them. This is just because it's revenue. Sad. I feel for the woman
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19-04-10, 20:10MrFussy
Unfortunately this is becoming more common. You are entitled to know the reason for any search / charge. If the Guards are acting on information received e.g PIMP or disgruntled punter, if you go the court, these witnesses HAVE to appear in court. The fear of going to court to defend a charge seems the most worrying aspect..IT IS NOT, you may and probably will be charged regardless and end up in court based on what you admit to. IF NOT KEEPING A BROTHEL, do not admit to it..... Ask the Garda in charge for the opportunity to speak with a FREE legal representative BEFORE you sign anything.....Again...DON'T sign anything if it is not true.
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20-04-10, 18:35seanief1980
from breaking news
The trial of a woman on charges of organising prostitution and keeping brothels opened in Cork this afternoon.
***************, aged 42, of S*****, W*****, County Cork, has pleaded not guilty to a total of 69 counts related to the alleged organisation of prostitution and the keeping of brothels at 26 John Street and 18 Grafton Street, Cork, on dates between January 2006 and May 2007.
Prosecution senior counsel ******* told the 12 men of the jury at Cork Circuit Criminal Court that Ms O’*****’s partner, T*** ******, also of Scartbarry, had previously pleaded guilty to the organisation of prostitution and the keeping of brothels at John Street and Grafton Street, Cork.
Ms F**** SC said the Grafton Street premises (between Oliver Plunkett Street and South Mall) over the Jade Winters adult shop was raided in November 20, 2006.
Ms F****** said: "A number of covert cameras were found in rooms used for prostitution, in particular one of the rooms. The covert camera was triggered on by a person working in the sex shop down stairs. Covert cameras were found in electrical plugs in the wall and that sort of thing.
"In a raid at the premises at Scartbarry where Mr L****** and Ms O’***** reside - computer equipment was found. The State will say the evidence demonstrates from these covert cameras a live feed that could be relayed to what was occurring in these rooms where the business of prostitution was being conducted," Ms F***** said.
The senior counsel said: "A particular list demonstrated how the spoils of prostitution were being divided. One of the lists you will see, has each of the girls working at any given time. Half of what they earned went to what was described as ‘boss’, half went to themselves."
*** ***** senior counsel for Ms O’L**** said the defence was prepared to accept that the premises were brothels and the prosecution did not need to prove this.
Uncontested statements from five customers and five prostitutes were read into evidence without the parties being identified. -
20-04-10, 19:47cum-on-sharon
Cork Brothel secretly filmed clients - TV3
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20-04-10, 19:56VladiSince you are judge jury and executioner I thought it appropriate to be respectful :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Westsidex
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20-04-10, 20:14JAMESCORKHey Fussy. Is that your missus. Didnt know she practised law as well:DQuote:
Originally Posted by seanief1980
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20-04-10, 20:35WestsidexI think that this would be done for one reason only. To see if the money that the girls hands over corresponds with what happened in the room , if neccessary. I doubt that there was an ulterior motive for this. Just keeping checks on the business.Quote:
Originally Posted by cum-on-sharon
thats what i reckon anyway,
Westside.
PS i did get a feeling of cameras in rooms there. If they were making vids they should have told me. I charge a good bit. -
20-04-10, 21:22MrFussyShe's not using the 'Fussy' name any more James...she got remarried a couple of weeks ago...but I have fowarded on your slander to her...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by JAMESCORK
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20-04-10, 22:22JAMESCORKYeah well I knew that. Hence the use of the tittle Ms. Hey if she decides to take action are you free to represent me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFussy
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21-04-10, 10:01Experienced Punter esqIn the papers
'There were a number of covert cameras some hidden in electrical sockets there was a continuous feed of activities recorded & these were fed both to the shop below & to the pimps house':eek::eek::eek:....
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21-04-10, 10:12WestsidexWellthis is a second for Cork as there were cameras in the former Hanover as well. I doubt very much that these were done to tape activities for some commercial purpose. I reckon it was security purpose both monetary and physical and also to hear what was said as there could have being sound transmitted too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Experienced Punter esq
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21-04-10, 10:14ReggieVoyerism !
Nothing that I would`nt have done , remember all those hot looking girls that used to be advertised on E-I from that establishment ?
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23-04-10, 18:53seanief1980another pimp bites the dust
another pimp bites the dust :):):):):):):)
Evening Echo | Court finds woman guilty of organising prostitution in Cork
Court finds woman guilty of organising prostitution in Cork
23/04/2010 - 17:48:56
The woman accused of organising prostitution and keeping brothels was found guilty on seven charges of managing brothels at 5.30pm this evening.
C******** O’****, aged 39, of Scartbarry, Watergrasshill, County Cork, was remanded in custody to May 12 for sentencing.
The jury found her not guilty on 43 counts related to the alleged organisation of prostitution and the keeping of brothels at 26, John Street and 18, Grafton Street, Cork, on dates between January 2006 and May 2007 and there was failure to reach any verdict on 19 counts.
Judge Seán Ó Donnabháin refused to remand the accused on bail for sentencing and said he was differentiating between herself and her husband by remanding him on bail as he had pleaded guilty.
O’***** showed no visible reaction to her conviction for keeping brothels.
Defence senior counsel, Tom Creed, said yesterday, “This is one of the thinnest case I have ever seen put forward by the Director of Public Prosecutions.
“This is ultimately about money and they have followed the money trail and they have got their scalps. In terms of the prostitutes, no doubt those ladies will go somewhere else.
“This is a very successful operation by the gardaí and they are to be commended for their work.”
He reminded the jury that ***********, aged 53, who still faces sentence for his crimes, has pleaded guilty to organising prostitution and keeping the two brothels, and that the Criminal Assets Bureau had obtained a "significant" sum of money from him.
J******* *****, aged 41, of ************, Old Youghal Road, Cork, pleaded guilty to five counts of keeping brothels at 18, Grafton Street and 26, John Street on various dates in 2006 and 2007 and she will be sentenced on May 12, as will Linnane.
The prosecution dropped its prosecution of *********, aged 48, of *********, Ballyvolane, Cork, on Monday. -
23-04-10, 20:36anitasizzleWhy didn't she plead guilty from the get-go-the stress from knowing you're going down, and harbouring that stress for close to 4 years would do my head in-how many times have she's been laughing and having a good time with friends only to be reminded you're going jail?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanief1980
She was damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, but totaly stupid in thinking, like a lot of criminals do, in that the Guards are dumb, and can be beaten. -
23-04-10, 20:46lutherHow would she know she was going down???Quote:
Originally Posted by anitasizzle
Would you not pled not guilty if you thought there was a chance you would get off, or is that a difficult question??? -
23-04-10, 20:56espensen
“This is a very successful operation by the gardaí and they are to be commended for their work.”
In some parts, gardai actually work in assisting the pimps. Strange world. I mean, what exactly is the crime in keeping a brothel? You make money, which pays off your mortgage on the property and you make a few pund for yourself. We just gave 400million to Greece, we don't need the money. Bloody hell! -
23-04-10, 21:13anitasizzleYou know! If you get caught twice for running brothels, you automatically get two years-two different premises were raided on two different dates, you're at the two years point-You're going to go. Some people can wait it out, but I couldn't if I know I did it and my time was up, I'l plead guilty, I did it and it paid off for me, I got no time just probation. I even got the money back they took off me, Thanks GardaQuote:
Originally Posted by luther
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23-04-10, 22:04espensen
I love this crap from courts. They could have let her be or COST the tax payer the codt of keeping her in jail, which sounds like a lot, per prisoner. Whereas if u do damage to someone, you can get a suspended sentence? A lot of crimes in this country are silly and the real crimes aren't punishable. It beggars belief.
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12-05-10, 17:46seanief1980
Cork brothel kingpin jailed - TV3
Cork brothel kingpin jailed
12.05.10
A man described as the kingpin of prostitution in Munster has been jailed for fifteen months.
***********, along with two women was arrested as part of a garda crackdown on organised prostitution and brothel keeping in Cork.
********** (53), along with two women, was arrested as part of a garda crackdown on organised prostitution and brothel keeping in Cork.
He was found guilty of 19 counts of organising prostitution and brothel keeping and was sentenced to a two-year prison sentence. The final nine months of his sentence were suspended on the condition that ********* did not associate with the business.
******** partner, 39-year-old ************, was convicted of seven counts of acting or assisting in the management of brothels in Cork. She was given a two-year suspended sentence.