Verified Pics + Reviews - IMPORTANT

Hello All,

It used to be the case that when you saw "Verified" pics on E-I, you could pretty much count on getting the girl in the pic, but the last few months there have been serveral cases of "Fake Verified" pics as the clients would say.

Naturally, this is of concern, to me, and to all clients that use this website.

I know our critics like to blame all this on E-I... But I have to defend our staff in this regard, because I know they work really hard to correctly judge photos as "Verified" or "Not Verified" and I think they are doing the best job they can in the circumstances.

Essentially, we CANNOT personally visit all the escorts listed on this website regularly to check they are who they say they are - I know this is what a lot of clients would like us to do but IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AGAINST THE LAW FOR US TO DO THIS (It would make us organisers and controllers of prostitution to be precise!).

So, we can have to rely on other methods to verify or not verify photos as genuine, like getting the word of an escort photographer, client or other person we feel we can trust that photos are genuine, or getting ladies to send us pictures of themselves holding todays newspaper or similar to confirm they look like the girl in the pics they've sent us to publish.

For a couple of years, I think our methods for verifying photos have worked pretty well, but the last few months they don't seem to be working as well, and I think we have to be honest about this and do something about it now.

In an ideal world there wouldn't be a continual stream of escorts using fake photos and trying to fool us into believing they are real, but this isn't an ideal world and unfortunately this is happening more and more.

I know some clients have been very vocal lately telling us to 'pull our socks up' etc in this regard. What these clients don't seem to realise is that our staff never stop working very hard to make sure the information published on this site is as accurate as possible, but the problems we have faced in this area lately have been massive... The only reason clients haven't realised how massive they've become is that Sarah and Natasha have been doing a fantastic job at not being fooled by lying escorts 99+% of the time.

So, what are we to do... Should we simply get rid of the Verified / Non-Verified Photos system? It seems a shame to do that, but I'd be the first to admit that there is no point having it if it is not working.

Before we go down that road though, I've had an idea that I hope may improve things. It is not without flaws, but it is the best idea I've got, and I would like to at least trial it for 1 month:

My idea, the new rule, is: ESCORTS WHO HAVE OPTED OUT OF THE REVIEWS SYSTEM CANNOT HAVE VERIFIED GENUINE PHOTOS.

This means, if escorts want to have verified photos, they are going to have to accept reviews also... They can no longer have their photos verified genuine and refuse all reviews.

The problem with allowing ladies to have verified photos and refuse reviews is that certain ladies abuse this system.

A common example: An escort who has verified photos decides to leave town, but, instead of cancelling her ad, she gives it to a friend. The friend and the original escort are obviously not the same person and thus the clients calling for the escort are now being conned as they are no longer getting what they expected to get... However, because the lady is opted out of the review system, the clients can't share this information and thus the scam just continues on and on, wasting clients' time and money and giving this site a bad name and the industry a bad name.

We have to put a stop to scams like the above and the only logical way I can think to do that is if we now say to escorts "Sorry - If you are not going to allow reviews we cannot verify your photos genuine."

I'm sorry more and more ladies have chosen not to accept reviews over time. I know there are ladies out there who have opted out of the reviews system for valid reasons nothing to do with their being a poor service provider, but there are also ladies opted out because they are poor service providers, and, at least when nearly everyone was accepting reviews if a picture verification was wrong the clients could have their say in a review, but now the client cannot even do that if the lady has opted out of reviews.

I know this solution isn't perfect, but I would really appreciate support and feedback from good clients and good escorts alike here - I am not the bad guy here - The bad guys are the escorts determinted to get fake photos verified genuine and then refuse all reviews so the clients they con can't ever warn others... And we have to put a stop to this for the good of this industry.

Pat x

Hi Patricia, 10 out of 10 for that idea. How about a freelance photographer to work with E.I. If he takes the photos and verifies it, you know it is real and so does the clients. Just another idea.

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ESCORTS WHO HAVE OPTED OUT OF THE REVIEWS SYSTEM CANNOT HAVE VERIFIED GENUINE PHOTOS.

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Sorry, but I think that's dumb.
I both allow reviews and have verified pics, so i'm not whinging out of personal loss- but while reviews are allowed like some of the crackers- 'I tried to call her and she didn't answer, what a bitch' type stuff, then that is grossly unfair. 'Cos if I get one of those little gems that seem to be taken as allowable here, i'll be opting out too, and you can verify my photo's with no trouble whatsoever-
Same as any other girl-
Get them to send in via email a quick amateur snap holding up a paper with the date on, for you to compare to the pictures they submitted.

Patricia that is a brilliant idea!!!!!!
It would, I believe, solve two problems at once ................ pure genius!!!

Paws

Thanks everyone for your feedback.

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Get them to send in via email a quick amateur snap holding up a paper with the date on, for you to compare to the pictures they submitted.

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We already do this quite often, but it doesn't always work... All it can possibly confirm is that the girl in the photos is allowing her photos to go on E-I... Unfortunately in numerous cases I've monitored the girl in the photos who has had her photos verified with us is not the one actually answering her phone once the ad goes up... And THIS is the problem.

I am aware my current idea is not perfect though, and I am really interested in all this feedback. Please also feel free to PM me any ladies with any concerns that you would prefer to air in private.

Firstly i would like to applaud:cool Patrica and her able team for all the work they have put in to hopefully solving this annoying problem that seems to take up countless ammounts of threads on these message boards.
Secondly i would like to thank APPOLINE for showing all the board members how *foul language removed* (stupid) she is at long last, but im sure you all can see the time and effort she put into her post.I personally believe that her loyalities lie within the confines of another escort directory but when it comes to money you must advertise where is most lucrative for YOU.:cool:

Thanks for your feedback deleteduser.

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Originally Posted by deleteduser

1. I think verification of photos post agreement to accept reviews should be mandatory. Too many times I have trusted the photos, but no review, and EVERY time I have been let down without fail.

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I'm not sure I get your point here... It is not making complete sense to me! Maybe you can explain better if you think it is necessary.

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2. What about if on the advert, the opportunity for the escort was given for "Reason for opting out of review system.." This could give them a forum to appease perusers of the site and to justify their decision. I can't personally think of ANY justification, but the chance to speak should be offered.

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I'm not sure this would help anything much... All escorts could give a genuine seeming reason here, but would clients be able to trust them? I don't see why they would.

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3. Scoring / Rating, something similar to www.hotornot.com could be introduced. Often in the escorts review section you see a long list of reviews, but there could be a bad one in there that you don't read, so another column beside "date", for example could be included for putting % score.

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I think this is probably a good idea and something we should unless other people can give good reasons for us not doing it.

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4. I understand and realise that these forums are available for the escorts to respond to negative reviews, but I believe that they should be able to append their own "censored" comment in reply to negative reviews. And obviously not be able to "censor" the review itself as Patricia and her crew do this already. Perhaps a client was rude when arriving, and the escort was offended resulting in poor gfe - these girls are human after all.

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We actually let escorts add comments on the actual reviews as you are suggesting already. The problem seems to be that many escorts, once faced with any sort of negative review, seem to prefer to simply opt-out of reviews rather than respond and defend themselves.

On here and by PM some escorts have already told me why they don't like reviews.

As Appoline says, she feels we let guys add comments like 'I tried to call her and she didn't answer, what a bitch' and this is wrong. I would have to agree that if we are lettting comments exactly like that go up, that isn't really on, but I'm not sure I'm totally with Appoline... I think 'bitch' should be removed as it is rude and unneccessary to call names like that, but I think clients should be able to comment on an escort that has let them down when they've made a booking with her for example.

Other escorts have said they would allow reviews if they were not lurid, i.e. we should remove the services info from reviews and keep the content 'clean'. I'm currently investigating whether we could move to a 3-tiered system. [1] No Reviews Allowed [2] Reviews allowed [3] Partial Reviews Allowed (e.g. Ratings but no services info and no comments box for clients to possibly write lurid comments in). Implimenting this would be quite a lot of work technically I think, but if it is a good way forward, we'll do that work.

Thank you to everyone who has been supportive over this and please keep giving feedback.

Pat x

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Originally Posted by mrsbrown

Secondly i would like to thank APPOLINE for showing all the board members how *foul language removed* (stupid) she is at long last....

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MrsBrown, please don't call other people names that are foul language... You may not mean to cause serious offense, but some people on this board might find it seriously offensive... It is better we all just don't call each other nasty names :)

'Loyalty' to a board is neither one thing nor another, to me.
Who am I loyal to? Myself...
I'll advertise where it suits me, and pay where it works for me... Which seems to be heinously offensive to some, evidently, but is appreciated as good business, both by escorts and the sites that sell ads to them.
But I will say, that the manners and conduct of some of the people here, must surely give some indication as to why so few girls bother with this forum and the reviews therein, even in comparison to it's rivals... Who on earth can be bothered to spend their personal time being insulted by some wannabe hiding behind a nickname on a message board for giving their opinion when asked- and not, when not asked, as certain people are apt to- Mmm, I think that'll be the end of that for me.
I have reviews on several other sites where the sites don't have this kind of problem for whatever reason, so if I opt out of the review system due to the muppetry that goes on here (point in case, the response to me in this thread) I will simply add a line in bold to my advert profile, advising people to go straight to my site to find my reviews and evidence of my genuine pictures... As will a lot of genuine girls, I should think, who find it borderline offensive to be treated as fakes for not allowing their name to be blackened maliciously in mickey mouse reviews or called every name going on a forum. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Appoline

As will a lot of genuine girls, I should think, who find it borderline offensive to be treated as fakes for not allowing their name to be blackened maliciously in mickey mouse reviews :rolleyes:

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I do understand your point of view Appoline.

I find the ladies - like yourself - who come on this forum and get involved in the discussions - whether I generally agree with their views or not - are usually the most honest ones going, and, if all escorts were like you, we wouldn't be having this discussion as there wouldn't be a problem.

My issue is that - unfortunately - certain ladies are abusing this website and the clients they get from it by getting fake photos verified genuine and then refusing reviews so clients can't have their say. And we have to put a stop to this bullshit.

Currently we are struggling to find a satifactory way to verify photos as genuine to an acceptable level of accuracy and I feel if we had ladies with verified genuine photos taking reviews, that would serve as some sort of back up to our verification system... Because at least if we got it wrong, the clients could tell everyone this. At the moment if we get it wrong and the lady doesn't accept reviews, we often don't even hear about it, so the mistakes and lies continue on.

There are many escorts that advertise on this website that are honest and these escorts are never our problem. Then there are the escorts that I wouldn't describe as totally dishonest, but I feel should be encouraged to be totally honesty in their advertising as they are not always being totally honest currently. Then there are the toe-rags who are out to rip everyone off. I'm sorry - but these ladies do exist - You may say I should never speak like this of our customers but sometimes they aren't even our customers... They write us a cheque to pay for their advertising then a week after they've left they contact their bank and say it was cheque fraud, so we end up having to give them the money back as it is less hassle that fighting them... And you guessed it, these are the exact same ladies that I get clients writing to me about every week saying they've been ripped off by them.

We are in a unique position here. The escort industry is not like any other industry... People like their privacy... I can't ask every escort that advertises here to provide me with her passport ID before I take her ad so as to stop the bad ladies coming back every month under a new alias, and clients can't take the ladies to the small claims court when they get ripped off. It is a unique situation we have here and I think we have to come up with unique and inventive solutions to tackle the problems.

Pat x

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Originally Posted by deleteduser

" And we have to put a stop to this bullshit."


Pat,

Keep it clean? Yeah?!!! Lol!!


deleteduser

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HeHe... Fair point!

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Patricia,

I have just visited Sofi and she does not know HOW to post a comment back in response to a review that she might dispute. Her English is strained so if I can pass on or help in any way in the communication, please do not hesitate to pm me.

I wonder is this the same for other girls. Can the website be translated into Spanish for example? Just another suggestion.... (sowwy!)



deleteduser

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She can email or private message any responses to reviews to us and we will put them up. This is probably the easiest way, but if she doesn't have email, she can telephone us and give us a response over the phone. I conceed perhaps we should try to make it easier for girls to respond to reviews and that might help. About translating E-I into other languages... We have looked into this a little and found it wouldn't be practical to try to translate the whole site. We are currently trying to get our escort advert applications translated into a few other languages though, as we feel this may help... After all, it is no wonder ladies don't provide correct info, if they don't understand the questions! If anyone hear can speak English and another language perfectly, perhaps you might PM me, as maybe we could work something out. We already have a native Polish and a native Czech girl on staff here, but we could use a native Dutch / German / Spanish / Portuguese and other languages speaker to help us translate forms for those countries.

Cheers deleteduser, and Patricia.
Patricia, I do get your point, it's been an eyeopener starting working in Ireland this year because the fake reviews and fake pictures that I agree are rife over here, doens't seem to happen that way in England-
I wonder if there might be a different way of looking at the verified pics though- ie, that the onus is on the escort to prove it is her, rather than being on the site to prove it is not- so if a girl has been commented on as being 'in the pics' by several well known clients on the board/ a well known reviewer, or if she sends in a pic with her i.d. or a dated paper or something, etc...
I get what you said about how one girl might allow another girl to use her shot for i.d. to work off, but with the majority of the fake pic girls using porn stars and stock pictures, I would think that that only accounts for a small part of it?

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Originally Posted by Patricia

Thanks for your feedback deleteduser.
I'm currently investigating whether we could move to a 3-tiered system. ...... [3] Partial Reviews Allowed (e.g. Ratings but no services info and no comments box for clients to possibly write lurid comments in).

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What would stop an escort from bumping up her rating though? For example, if an agency had a number of girls posing as independent escorts and wrote fake reviews about all the girls to trick punters into thinking they are good, if you then provide option number three that same pimp/escort could add to their rating all they want and give an even more inaccurate impression.

If all the girls on the top on one particular page (just say the Cork page for example) worked for an agency but posed as independents and they all had 5 star ratings then gullible/unaware/unassuming punters might not look at some of the more genuine girls.

Also if the same pimp was given the ability to give bad ratings to genuine girls (as well as terrorise them by kicking their doors in) then you'd get an even worse rating/impression of those girls who aren't always stuck to the top of the page (just say the Cork page for example)

I wanted to see a few of the replies before I contributed to this thread so I could see some different opinions and solution suggestions, now I have.

Pat, You all do work hard and I think you all do a pretty good job considering, I have to say that.

Things I would personally be willing to be a part of as an escort that opts out of reviews.

Sending regular amature pics with no make up, full body and head shots this way you can know if photos are airbrushed...( I dont by the way. ) and if I do look like my pics.

A 1-10 scoring system with no details, something like;

Apperance .......... 1-10 ....... ( )

Photo match ........1-10 .........( )

Service ...............1-10 ....( )

overall satisfaction 1-10 ...... ( )

Something like that.


I also think that anyone accussed of, caught lying and posting fake/questionable reviews or recived 3 or more fake picture accusations suspended until appropriate proof presented, and investigated.

Also, perhaps you could consider hiring a independent critic. Someone who is a paying client to randomly visit ladies and write a private reviwe submitted only to yourself. If an escorts authentisity is questioned with reasonable doubt send him round. Pay for him to have a service and write a report...... Damn I'm reading this last bit back and even I can see the flaws, but hey I'm just throwing it out there.

Maybe a video application?

Unfortunately there are a few girls with genuine reasons that shouldn't have to be made public just like client confidentuality, but we could always do simillar proceedures as the States.

membership screening;

Passport number, information and picture on file, Kept only by the EI team/admin of clients and girls.

That way you could even have a number verification system.

These are ideas and very futureistic but the way things are going that maybe the way we are heading.

Some great ideas thrown around about on how to verify the Photos for the profile some very easy to implement and others quite difficult to manage.

My own idea would be that if and when an escort contacts the Administration for inclusion on this site they must use a MSN/ Skype or other video link for contact.

This is not an imposition on any of the girls as their submissions are usually, I understand, made via the internet. Every Internet cafe has the facility to cater for this requirement. Once seen by the Administration, via the webcam, their photo can be verified.

This, of course, does not prevent other frauds such as misleading information, with regards to services provided and fees charged. There will always be loopholes and those who are dishonest will always find ways and means to deceive but it can and should be made as difficult as possible for deception to prevail while at the same time not making it so difficult that to adhere to the rules is an impossibility.

Video proof, via a live feed, is not so difficult.

Recently I spoke with a girl on the forum who didn't allow reviews and when I suggested she didn't look like her photo she sent me her email and we spoke and chatted on MSN. She could also see how I looked which assured her I wasn't hiding anything either. I have had a couple of nice afternoons with her but she still has fears of the present review sysytem.


Just as there are dishonest escorts we should be fully aware that there are dishonest punters who get hang-ups about matters outside the escorts control, such as availability, phone engaged and such matters. These punters often can then give a bad review based not on what makes an escort either good or bad but on how difficult it was to get the phone answered. No review should be allowed where the client didn't have a service; unless he turned up and for a genuine reason refused to follow through with the transaction. This reason should have sufficent gravity for the administration to take note of and act upon.

I hope that this is of some help in comming to a decision about how best to manage a very difficult and complex question.

Cheers
Magicman

The idea is very good but I think that everyone should understand the difficulty that escorts living here have with easily recognisable photos. You often see on reviews "she is beautiful, she should use her own photos". She does not use her own photos because she does not want to be easily identified by criminals, police, landlord etc.. What is safer for the escort in this regard is safer for the client.
Photos conjure up an image of the girl. When I meet that girl what concerns me is what I call the "disappointment factor". This is how pleased or disappointed I am with the physical appearence of the girl compared to the image generated by the photos.This could be rated as marks out of ten, with anything over five being pleasantly surprised. I would value this system if it could be adopted as part of the review.

I would have no problem with escorts, who for reasons of security or other reasons as outlined by Diver, decide to withhold photos or use photo which are very close PROVIDED that such was admitted in their profile.

There could be a message instead of "Verified Photo" and it could read something like "Photo is a genuine likeness as verified by Administration" who would of course have verified the likeness with the due, live video, process as outlined in my last post.

Others might argue that girls who need to hide behind false photos and who are worried about all that Diver mentioned should maybe find alternative employment where such measures are not needed.

One girl who didn't have her own photo on display explained it was because she didn't want neighbouring appartments or businesses knowing who she was or what she did...................but she found no problem with leaving me at her door, buzzing and phoning for about fifteen minutes. My security was compromised and indeed so was hers by her actions. So in that case I pointed out to her that it was purely for dishonest reasons and declined to stay for her services , which I later discovered left a lot to be desired.

Everyones security is of equal value.

Cheers
Magicman

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Originally Posted by Magicman

I would have no problem with escorts, who for reasons of security or other reasons as outlined by Diver, decide to withhold photos or use photo which are very close PROVIDED that such was admitted in their profile.

There could be a message instead of "Verified Photo" and it could read something like "Photo is a genuine likeness as verified by Administration" who would of course have verified the likeness with the due, live video, process as outlined in my last post.

Others might argue that girls who need to hide behind false photos and who are worried about all that Diver mentioned should maybe find alternative employment where such measures are not needed.

One girl who didn't have her own photo on display explained it was because she didn't want neighbouring appartments or businesses knowing who she was or what she did...................but she found no problem with leaving me at her door, buzzing and phoning for about fifteen minutes. My security was compromised and indeed so was hers by her actions. So in that case I pointed out to her that it was purely for dishonest reasons and declined to stay for her services , which I later discovered left a lot to be desired.

Everyones security is of equal value.

Cheers
Magicman

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In fairness, was it not a little silly to stand there ringing a bell for 15 minutes. The photos must have been exceptional.

Ah! The picture I created of me standing there was a little misleading............I actually came and went about five or six times. I walked up and down while I was waiting .........trying to act normally. I suppose if I had just tried her bell once and left then I would be accused of being a "timewaster" and of not turning up. I had already invested my time in getting to this escort's address so it was more than just a wasted fifteen minutes

But I do like the picture of me standing there buzzing a bell trying to look inconspicious.................now that is very funny.

Cheers
Magicman

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Originally Posted by Magicman

Ah! The picture I created of me standing there was a little misleading............I actually came and went about five or six times. I walked up and down while I was waiting .........trying to act normally. I suppose if I had just tried her bell once and left then I would be accused of being a "timewaster" and of not turning up. I had already invested my time in getting to this escort's address so it was more than just a wasted fifteen minutes

But I do like the picture of me standing there buzzing a bell trying to look inconspicious.................now that is very funny.

Cheers
Magicman

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The picture of you standing there trying to look inconspicious while feeling horny is even funnier
Regards

OK...Ok................... having explained my wait and all of that lets not lose sight of what this thread is about...........FAKE PHOTOS and FAKE REVIEWS and ways and means of dealing with said problem. It seems to be a problem for some posters here on this forum to keep within the threads and some otherwise excellent threads degenerate into silly remarks and equally silly and banal retorts.

So back on track.................... Many problems with fake reviews and fake photos were outlined and some simple and basic solutions were put forward now it will be interesting to hear back from Patrica or someone else from administration what plans they have arrived at to ensure that we, the punters, get the full and true facts from an escorts profile, and that the escorts get equally honest and constructive feedback and not just some bitching.

There is a problem.
It has been acknowledged by all.
Both punters and escorts have submitted ideas.............some very radical and some agreed by both punter and escort as being practical.

Patrica has a very difficult balancing act to perform here so it will be understandable if all the ideas are not taken on board but please let us know what you do decide whenever you make your decisions.

Cheers
Magicman

I hope I'm not too late to comment on the original post you made patricia, but I don't have that much access to the internet at the moment, your initial idea to combat these false pics is a very good one, I myself would say that 90% of escorts i have visited have fake pics. I do think that you should go one step further though..Why allow any pics if they are not verified, who wants to look at a load of beautiful pics if they mean nothing.. This would be a greater incentive to escorts to provide genuine pics..

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Originally Posted by Patricia

Hello All,

It used to be the case that when you saw "Verified" pics on E-I, you could pretty much count on getting the girl in the pic, but the last few months there have been serveral cases of "Fake Verified" pics as the clients would say.

Naturally, this is of concern, to me, and to all clients that use this website.

I know our critics like to blame all this on E-I... But I have to defend our staff in this regard, because I know they work really hard to correctly judge photos as "Verified" or "Not Verified" and I think they are doing the best job they can in the circumstances.

Essentially, we CANNOT personally visit all the escorts listed on this website regularly to check they are who they say they are - I know this is what a lot of clients would like us to do but IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AGAINST THE LAW FOR US TO DO THIS (It would make us organisers and controllers of prostitution to be precise!).

So, we can have to rely on other methods to verify or not verify photos as genuine, like getting the word of an escort photographer, client or other person we feel we can trust that photos are genuine, or getting ladies to send us pictures of themselves holding todays newspaper or similar to confirm they look like the girl in the pics they've sent us to publish.

For a couple of years, I think our methods for verifying photos have worked pretty well, but the last few months they don't seem to be working as well, and I think we have to be honest about this and do something about it now.

In an ideal world there wouldn't be a continual stream of escorts using fake photos and trying to fool us into believing they are real, but this isn't an ideal world and unfortunately this is happening more and more.

I know some clients have been very vocal lately telling us to 'pull our socks up' etc in this regard. What these clients don't seem to realise is that our staff never stop working very hard to make sure the information published on this site is as accurate as possible, but the problems we have faced in this area lately have been massive... The only reason clients haven't realised how massive they've become is that Sarah and Natasha have been doing a fantastic job at not being fooled by lying escorts 99+% of the time.

So, what are we to do... Should we simply get rid of the Verified / Non-Verified Photos system? It seems a shame to do that, but I'd be the first to admit that there is no point having it if it is not working.

Before we go down that road though, I've had an idea that I hope may improve things. It is not without flaws, but it is the best idea I've got, and I would like to at least trial it for 1 month:

My idea, the new rule, is: ESCORTS WHO HAVE OPTED OUT OF THE REVIEWS SYSTEM CANNOT HAVE VERIFIED GENUINE PHOTOS.

This means, if escorts want to have verified photos, they are going to have to accept reviews also... They can no longer have their photos verified genuine and refuse all reviews.

The problem with allowing ladies to have verified photos and refuse reviews is that certain ladies abuse this system.

A common example: An escort who has verified photos decides to leave town, but, instead of cancelling her ad, she gives it to a friend. The friend and the original escort are obviously not the same person and thus the clients calling for the escort are now being conned as they are no longer getting what they expected to get... However, because the lady is opted out of the review system, the clients can't share this information and thus the scam just continues on and on, wasting clients' time and money and giving this site a bad name and the industry a bad name.

We have to put a stop to scams like the above and the only logical way I can think to do that is if we now say to escorts "Sorry - If you are not going to allow reviews we cannot verify your photos genuine."

I'm sorry more and more ladies have chosen not to accept reviews over time. I know there are ladies out there who have opted out of the reviews system for valid reasons nothing to do with their being a poor service provider, but there are also ladies opted out because they are poor service providers, and, at least when nearly everyone was accepting reviews if a picture verification was wrong the clients could have their say in a review, but now the client cannot even do that if the lady has opted out of reviews.

I know this solution isn't perfect, but I would really appreciate support and feedback from good clients and good escorts alike here - I am not the bad guy here - The bad guys are the escorts determinted to get fake photos verified genuine and then refuse all reviews so the clients they con can't ever warn others... And we have to put a stop to this for the good of this industry.

Pat x

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Already working perfectly, it's raising the bar defo. Cheers.

Patricia,
How can a someone post a review if they are not on the member list?
I read the review of Jasmin this morning and wanted to pm the reviewer (jsparow) but cannot find his name on the Member List.
How can this be? I thought you have to register as a member before posting reviews????

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Patricia,
How can a someone post a review if they are not on the member list?
I read the review of Jasmin this morning and wanted to pm the reviewer (jsparow) but cannot find his name on the Member List.
How can this be? I thought you have to register as a member before posting reviews????

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Hi, just to clarify this point quickly as I realise it is one that does seem odd until you get the explanation. You do have to be a member to post a review.

If someone has posted a review and they do not appear on the members list, it is because their message board account is not "active" currently.

A common example for an account becoming not "active" if where a user changes their email address, we send out an automated email asking them to click on a link to confirm their new email address, but they don't do this.

We don't show users whose account status is not "active" on the members list. This is because doing so can promote spam. You may notice on some popular message boards that do show all users not just active users in their members lists, spammers often create loads of profiles contating links to porn sites, adverts etc and flood the members lists with these... Because we don't show profiles that don't have a confirmed email address associated with them etc, hopefully our members list is not flooded with this crap.

Hope this explains the situation ok,

Pat x

I note that you have changed the photo verification/review system because some girls are "piggybacking" on other girls advertisements thereby losing business for you. You are an astute businesswoman and the best of luck to you.

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Originally Posted by diver

I note that you have changed the photo verification/review system because some girls are "piggybacking" on other girls advertisements thereby losing business for you. You are an astute businesswoman and the best of luck to you.

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Ah diver, what can I say...? This wouldn't be my home if you conspiracy theorist, cynisists weren't here to tell me what I'm really doing any time I do anything. :D

Pat it's a great idea and it has already done some good so I don't care what your "reasons" for doing it are............... I just hope you keep coming up with good ways to combat bad escorting services!!

Paws

I think the only way to get rid off fake pics is zero tolerance... don't allow any pics up if you are in doubts. Trust me, if there is a loophole, then it will be used. Ask all girls to verify their own pics with the pic with today's paper etc. , the once who don't want to do that, blur their faces or edit their pics into bodyparts.
There are girls who don't want to be recognised, but why don't they blur their face out.... lots of girls have pics where it showes bodyparts, but not the face, why don't they use such pics, instead of a fake one????

Zero tolerance is the only way forward.... blur the faces of the pics if yu are not sure weather it is real or not, till they are happy to cooperate....

Regarding reviewes, I'll opt in as soon as there will be a line drown up. Not beeing able to get hold of the lady, or her phone was busy is not a review. I think somehow they also need to be verified back with the punters, before they go up..... a point system along with it would be useful, so you could see the score before you click on it and read on....

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Ah diver, what can I say...? This wouldn't be my home if you conspiracy theorist, cynisists weren't here to tell me what I'm really doing any time I do anything. :D

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Dear Patricia, you malign me. I am not a conspiracy theorist but everyone around me is conspiring against me. Seriously though I meant my comments about your business acumen in the utmost sincerity. I think that some people posting comments seem to be under the delusion that you are running a charity for poor mistreated clients. It is the escorts that pay your bills not the clients.

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Originally Posted by Kat

I think the only way to get rid off fake pics is zero tolerance... don't allow any pics up if you are in doubts. Trust me, if there is a loophole, then it will be used. Ask all girls to verify their own pics with the pic with today's paper etc. , the once who don't want to do that, blur their faces or edit their pics into bodyparts.
There are girls who don't want to be recognised, but why don't they blur their face out.... lots of girls have pics where it showes bodyparts, but not the face, why don't they use such pics, instead of a fake one????

Zero tolerance is the only way forward.... blur the faces of the pics if yu are not sure weather it is real or not, till they are happy to cooperate....

Regarding reviewes, I'll opt in as soon as there will be a line drown up. Not beeing able to get hold of the lady, or her phone was busy is not a review. I think somehow they also need to be verified back with the punters, before they go up..... a point system along with it would be useful, so you could see the score before you click on it and read on....

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Don't mean to be critical of you Kat, but blurred out faces is not the answer. With respect to all escorts, most of the time when we complain about escorts not looking like their pic the face is the least important discrepency...If ya know what I mean...If you do not provide a verified pic you should be content with an advert with no pic at all. I understand that some girls don't like to display a pic of themselves, that's fine but they will have to rely on good reviews..

That's an option which I would support too delmont.... no cooparation=zero tolrance=no picture.
It's just better for the ladies, who do play by the rules... you guys won't get lured in by a pic of bombshell, then waste your money... , but visit girls, who actually advertise with their own pics.

I'm glad you agree Kat, that's exactly the point I was making...It will be better for everyone concerned if pics were banned if not verified..If they are verified and are proven to be false then the review system would alert us all to this and the pic should be removed..