Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort

Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort

Capitalists have long claimed that capitalism is about rewarding individual effort with goods and power. But, does capitalism reward individual effort? Is carrying out individual effort the real ambition of capitalists? Clearly it is not. The ambition of capitalists is to destroy the ability to carry out individual effort of as many other people as possible, by turning them into wage-slaves. Does Sean Quinn make cement? Of course not. He, in fact destroys the possibility of others to make cement by enforcing a de facto monopoly. If you want to make cement, you have to do so as part of Quinn's private collective, for Quinn's private profit.

So we see that no capitalist wants to make money by his own individual effort, but by robbing the ability of others to carry out individual effort.

We can certainly see that a minority of people in the capitalist world do manage to carry out individual effort. But, if capitalism claims to be the champion of individual effort, it must allow more people to carry out individual effort than it stops. We see that the very opposite is the case.

Capitalism is in no way about individuals. It is a cancerous collective. Hundreds of millions of people have their working lives bought off them by a small capitalist elite. Their ability to change their world is put at naught. There is no alternative but to accept the society that the capitalist ruling class has decided is the most profitable for themselves.

And nor is the cancerous collective only about production. Not at all. Capitalism destroys the individual in his working life and in his fantasy. We see a massive technological apparatus for the control of sexual and other forms of fantasy, so that fantasy becomes commodified and profitable - nothing is more commodified and profitable today than sexual fantasy.

So, we see that capitalism destroys the ability to carry out individual effort, and it destroys the ability to have individual thoughts. Individuality is the very last thing that capitalism wants or allows. Human beings must be reduced to "human resources" in their work, and must be reduced to brainwashed consumers in their private hours (though, as we see, privacy is never allowed in capitalism. All actions must relate, in one way or another, to capitalist profit.) We live in the most intensive Control Society that the world have ever known.

But, we all know that capitalism is a failed ideology, and thankfully, it is falling apart by itself anyway. The real question is what can we do now to build a world where real individual effort becomes possible. To my mind, the Soviet is the ideal centre for individual effort. In a Soviet, comrades come together and express themselves freely, bringing all their own ideas to the work. Nobody dictates to them and nobody tries to hire or employ them. What they do is on their own time, and on their own materials of production. Nobody tries to shape or mould their fantasies into profitable avenues. Real men and real women set about the work they themselves have decided to do, shaping their world to the forms that they have consciously and democratically decided on. Some here may object that in a Soviet, if a person wants to work all the hours of the day so that he can have more commodities, he will find it difficult to do that - if only because the others may find his actions to be rather perverse, i.e. giving up all your life for junk. Well, it seems to me that human beings would never do this anyway if they didnt have the lash of capitalist mind control on them at all times. But, I would recommend to any Soviet to not prevent such individuals doing this. Soon they will see the futility of such actions for themselves. That is not to say that Soviet members would not wish to work hard, and often for long hours - but they would work for higher achievement, not for commodified rubbish that robs them of their individuality and turns them into sad brainwashed clones.

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort

Capitalists have long claimed that capitalism is about rewarding individual effort with goods and power. But, does capitalism reward individual effort? Is carrying out individual effort the real ambition of capitalists? Clearly it is not. The ambition of capitalists is to destroy the ability to carry out individual effort of as many other people as possible, by turning them into wage-slaves. Does Sean Quinn make cement? Of course not. He, in fact destroys the possibility of others to make cement by enforcing a de facto monopoly. If you want to make cement, you have to do so as part of Quinn's private collective, for Quinn's private profit.

So we see that no capitalist wants to make money by his own individual effort, but by robbing the ability of others to carry out individual effort.

We can certainly see that a minority of people in the capitalist world do manage to carry out individual effort. But, if capitalism claims to be the champion of individual effort, it must allow more people to carry out individual effort than it stops. We see that the very opposite is the case.

Capitalism is in no way about individuals. It is a cancerous collective. Hundreds of millions of people have their working lives bought off them by a small capitalist elite. Their ability to change their world is put at naught. There is no alternative but to accept the society that the capitalist ruling class has decided is the most profitable for themselves.

And nor is the cancerous collective only about production. Not at all. Capitalism destroys the individual in his working life and in his fantasy. We see a massive technological apparatus for the control of sexual and other forms of fantasy, so that fantasy becomes commodified and profitable - nothing is more commodified and profitable today than sexual fantasy.

So, we see that capitalism destroys the ability to carry out individual effort, and it destroys the ability to have individual thoughts. Individuality is the very last thing that capitalism wants or allows. Human beings must be reduced to "human resources" in their work, and must be reduced to brainwashed consumers in their private hours (though, as we see, privacy is never allowed in capitalism. All actions must relate, in one way or another, to capitalist profit.) We live in the most intensive Control Society that the world have ever known.

But, we all know that capitalism is a failed ideology, and thankfully, it is falling apart by itself anyway. The real question is what can we do now to build a world where real individual effort becomes possible. To my mind, the Soviet is the ideal centre for individual effort. In a Soviet, comrades come together and express themselves freely, bringing all their own ideas to the work. Nobody dictates to them and nobody tries to hire or employ them. What they do is on their own time, and on their own materials of production. Nobody tries to shape or mould their fantasies into profitable avenues. Real men and real women set about the work they themselves have decided to do, shaping their world to the forms that they have consciously and democratically decided on. Some here may object that in a Soviet, if a person wants to work all the hours of the day so that he can have more commodities, he will find it difficult to do that - if only because the others may find his actions to be rather perverse, i.e. giving up all your life for junk. Well, it seems to me that human beings would never do this anyway if they didnt have the lash of capitalist mind control on them at all times. But, I would recommend to any Soviet to not prevent such individuals doing this. Soon they will see the futility of such actions for themselves. That is not to say that Soviet members would not wish to work hard, and often for long hours - but they would work for higher achievement, not for commodified rubbish that robs them of their individuality and turns them into sad brainwashed clones.

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and breathe .......

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort

Capitalists have long claimed that capitalism is about rewarding individual effort with goods and power. But, does capitalism reward individual effort? Is carrying out individual effort the real ambition of capitalists? Clearly it is not. The ambition of capitalists is to destroy the ability to carry out individual effort of as many other people as possible, by turning them into wage-slaves. Does Sean Quinn make cement? Of course not. He, in fact destroys the possibility of others to make cement by enforcing a de facto monopoly. If you want to make cement, you have to do so as part of Quinn's private collective, for Quinn's private profit.

So we see that no capitalist wants to make money by his own individual effort, but by robbing the ability of others to carry out individual effort.

We can certainly see that a minority of people in the capitalist world do manage to carry out individual effort. But, if capitalism claims to be the champion of individual effort, it must allow more people to carry out individual effort than it stops. We see that the very opposite is the case.

Capitalism is in no way about individuals. It is a cancerous collective. Hundreds of millions of people have their working lives bought off them by a small capitalist elite. Their ability to change their world is put at naught. There is no alternative but to accept the society that the capitalist ruling class has decided is the most profitable for themselves.

And nor is the cancerous collective only about production. Not at all. Capitalism destroys the individual in his working life and in his fantasy. We see a massive technological apparatus for the control of sexual and other forms of fantasy, so that fantasy becomes commodified and profitable - nothing is more commodified and profitable today than sexual fantasy.

So, we see that capitalism destroys the ability to carry out individual effort, and it destroys the ability to have individual thoughts. Individuality is the very last thing that capitalism wants or allows. Human beings must be reduced to "human resources" in their work, and must be reduced to brainwashed consumers in their private hours (though, as we see, privacy is never allowed in capitalism. All actions must relate, in one way or another, to capitalist profit.) We live in the most intensive Control Society that the world have ever known.

But, we all know that capitalism is a failed ideology, and thankfully, it is falling apart by itself anyway. The real question is what can we do now to build a world where real individual effort becomes possible. To my mind, the Soviet is the ideal centre for individual effort. In a Soviet, comrades come together and express themselves freely, bringing all their own ideas to the work. Nobody dictates to them and nobody tries to hire or employ them. What they do is on their own time, and on their own materials of production. Nobody tries to shape or mould their fantasies into profitable avenues. Real men and real women set about the work they themselves have decided to do, shaping their world to the forms that they have consciously and democratically decided on. Some here may object that in a Soviet, if a person wants to work all the hours of the day so that he can have more commodities, he will find it difficult to do that - if only because the others may find his actions to be rather perverse, i.e. giving up all your life for junk. Well, it seems to me that human beings would never do this anyway if they didnt have the lash of capitalist mind control on them at all times. But, I would recommend to any Soviet to not prevent such individuals doing this. Soon they will see the futility of such actions for themselves. That is not to say that Soviet members would not wish to work hard, and often for long hours - but they would work for higher achievement, not for commodified rubbish that robs them of their individuality and turns them into sad brainwashed clones.

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I didnt actually read this but I imagine its all crap and Benny is right, dublin laddie needs a good ride!

I'd also imagine the exact same piece has been plastered over every other Irish orientated forum on t'interwebz, as Luther pointed out yesterday.


Maybe he just needs a hug.

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort That is not to say that Soviet members would not wish to work hard, and often for long hours - but they would work for higher achievement, not for commodified rubbish that robs them of their individuality and turns them into sad brainwashed clones.

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Hs says typing on his laptop!!! LOL

Must have taken a lot of individual effort to type all that

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Originally Posted by magicalman9357

Must have taken a lot of individual effort to type all that

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Nah ..... he surfed Really Annoying Shit .com | Blog and cut and paste .....

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Originally Posted by Monkeynut

Nah ..... he surfed Really Annoying Shit .com | Blog and cut and paste .....

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Apologies Monkeynut I clicked the wrong bloody quotation and just edited it lol

Dublin laddie,

you completely misunderstand capitalism.

The capitalist is the supplier of one of the means of production, i.e. capital.
They may also supply one of the others i.e. labour, land or enterprise.
The whole system thrives because someone is supplying all the means of production.
The system emphasis the contribution of each to the cause, and believes that the collective is better by each individual contributor of a means of production being better.
Thats where the thoery of specialisation comes from.
Until you understand the rudiments of capitalist theory you should not comment on it.
:)

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Originally Posted by dave1dave

Dublin laddie,

you completely misunderstand capitalism.

The capitalist is the supplier of one of the means of production, i.e. capital.
They may also supply one of the others i.e. labour, land or enterprise.
The whole system thrives because someone is supplying all the means of production.
The system emphasis the contribution of each to the cause, and believes that the collective is better by each individual contributor of a means of production being better.
Thats where the thoery of specialisation comes from.
Until you understand the rudiments of capitalist theory you should not comment on it.
:)

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I am shocked at that contribution!!
General opinion was that you seemed Thick! :)

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Originally Posted by dannyboy10

I am shocked at that contribution!!
General opinion was that you seemed Thick! :)

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Are you saying that I'm not thick ?

How very dare you !

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Originally Posted by dave1dave

Dublin laddie,

you completely misunderstand capitalism.

The capitalist is the supplier of one of the means of production, i.e. capital.
They may also supply one of the others i.e. labour, land or enterprise.
The whole system thrives because someone is supplying all the means of production.
The system emphasis the contribution of each to the cause, and believes that the collective is better by each individual contributor of a means of production being better.
Thats where the thoery of specialisation comes from.
Until you understand the rudiments of capitalist theory you should not comment on it.
:)

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Thats the ideology - and I understand it very well. However there is a world of difference between capitalist ideology and capitalist practice. Irish people hardly need to be reminded of that fact.

And did you not even blush when you claimed that the capitalist system "thrives?"

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

Thats the ideology - and I understand it very well. However there is a world of difference between capitalist ideology and capitalist practice. Irish people hardly need to be reminded of that fact.

And did you not even blush when you claimed that the capitalist system "thrives?"

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QUACK QUACK QUACK


Ah feck it. Sorry DL, but I am bored now.

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Originally Posted by dave1dave

Are you saying that I'm not thick ?

How very dare you !

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I think you have hidden depths dave1dave.

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

And did you not even blush when you claimed that the capitalist system "thrives?"

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I did blush, but that was only when I realised that the curtains are open and I have my trousers around my ankles.

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Originally Posted by lucy chambers

I think you have hidden depths dave1dave.

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Yes like a mug of good hot chocolate !

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Originally Posted by benin

and breathe .......

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Originally Posted by Monkeynut

I didnt actually read this but I imagine its all crap and Benny is right, dublin laddie needs a good ride!

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Originally Posted by ChiefHandker

I'd also imagine the exact same piece has been plastered over every other Irish orientated forum on t'interwebz, as Luther pointed out yesterday.


Maybe he just needs a hug.

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Originally Posted by magicalman9357

Must have taken a lot of individual effort to type all that

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Originally Posted by Monkeynut

Nah ..... he surfed Really Annoying Shit .com | Blog and cut and paste .....

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Originally Posted by lucy chambers

QUACK QUACK QUACK


Ah feck it. Sorry DL, but I am bored now.

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What an intelligent response...

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Originally Posted by dave1dave

I did blush, but that was only when I realised that the curtains are open and I have my trousers around my ankles.

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Don't be lonely. Have a communist for supper.

(I fully intend to drag this off topic)

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

What an intelligent response...

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To a pseudo intellectual cut and paste freak. Get off your cross and get topical and I may give you an intelligent response.

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Originally Posted by lucy chambers

Don't be lonely. Have a communist for supper.

(I fully intend to drag this off topic)

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But they always leave me feeling gassy and bloated !

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Originally Posted by dave1dave

But they always leave me feeling gassy and bloated !

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Ah, you arent missing much. They are always maudlin and pasty anyway.

If you exclude the capitalist and his/her capital as a factor of production you are left with the state sector funded via the tax payers. Assuming that the system is not a bolshevic style one, you get control via public sector trade unions which leads to organisations which are over-staffed, over-payed, ineffecient, ineffective, incapable of innovation and more than likely operating as a monopoly. The result is higher prices of services and goods for the end-user (example the ESB) who has already probably contributed in his/her taxes to this organisation. Such organisations can only exist in a protected environment as they are incapable of competing in international export markets and would not be able to survive foreign companies competing against them in their home markets. Therefore you require high taffif barriers or other regulations to creat barriers to market entry for rivals. Basically, we are talking Ireland during the 30s, 40s and 50s........De Valera's dream of self-sufficiency.......no foreign investment and damn all foreign trade.

The alternative bolshevic version is one of tightly controlled centrally planned economic activity presided over by a nomenclature elite. Given that the workers have no control, no dignity, no incentivisation and their unions are centrally controlled puppet fronts, they are purely wage slaves who's purpose in life is to reach production targets. The same inefficiencies etc. would also apply to such organisations and they could not survive without protective barriers.

Capitalism is not about exploitation or about reducing people to the status of wage slaves......it is about returning profits and a good living for the entrepreneurs/investors/capitalists who supply capital and or entrepreneurship to an organisation. Part and parcel of the capitalist system are constant innovation, both product, service and process, and market competition. The benefits for the consumer are products and services of a high quality and/or at a lower cost.

There are plenty of Eastern Europeans amongst us now. Why not ask them whether they would rather work in a capitalist system or go back to the type of life they would have led if they were still forced to live under communist regimes.

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Originally Posted by carlos marvado

If you exclude the capitalist and his/her capital as a factor of production you are left with the state sector funded via the tax payers. Assuming that the system is not a bolshevic style one, you get control via public sector trade unions which leads to organisations which are over-staffed, over-payed, ineffecient, ineffective, incapable of innovation and more than likely operating as a monopoly. The result is higher prices of services and goods for the end-user (example the ESB) who has already probably contributed in his/her taxes to this organisation. Such organisations can only exist in a protected environment as they are incapable of competing in international export markets and would not be able to survive foreign companies competing against them in their home markets. Therefore you require high taffif barriers or other regulations to creat barriers to market entry for rivals. Basically, we are talking Ireland during the 30s, 40s and 50s........De Valera's dream of self-sufficiency.......no foreign investment and damn all foreign trade.

The alternative bolshevic version is one of tightly controlled centrally planned economic activity presided over by a nomenclature elite. Given that the workers have no control, no dignity, no incentivisation and their unions are centrally controlled puppet fronts, they are purely wage slaves who's purpose in life is to reach production targets. The same inefficiencies etc. would also apply to such organisations and they could not survive without protective barriers.

Capitalism is not about exploitation or about reducing people to the status of wage slaves......it is about returning profits and a good living for the entrepreneurs/investors/capitalists who supply capital and or entrepreneurship to an organisation. Part and parcel of the capitalist system are constant innovation, both product, service and process, and market competition. The benefits for the consumer are products and services of a high quality and/or at a lower cost.

There are plenty of Eastern Europeans amongst us now. Why not ask them whether they would rather work in a capitalist system or go back to the type of life they would have led if they were still forced to live under communist regimes.

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lets aks them

east germans
Homesick for a Dictatorship: Majority of Eastern Germans Feel Life Better under Communism - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

romanians
Opinion poll: 61% of romanians consider communism a good idea

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Originally Posted by dave1dave

Dublin laddie,

you completely misunderstand capitalism.

The capitalist is the supplier of one of the means of production, i.e. capital.
They may also supply one of the others i.e. labour, land or enterprise.
The whole system thrives because someone is supplying all the means of production.
The system emphasis the contribution of each to the cause, and believes that the collective is better by each individual contributor of a means of production being better.
Thats where the thoery of specialisation comes from.
Until you understand the rudiments of capitalist theory you should not comment on it.
:)

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Link: Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort
:)

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Originally Posted by dublin laddie

What an intelligent response...

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Did your Mum tell you to say that .... how else would you know

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Originally Posted by El Gordo

Link: Capitalism is the Enemy of Individual Effort
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Shit!!!!!....dublin laddie or Brother Cael as he is known on politics.ie has 22,995 posts to his credit there.........and I thought Westie had it bad.

Do yourself a big favour Brother Cael (dublin laddie). Look at all the nice pictures of the ladies in Dublin (300+). Then ring one of them to make an appointment and go and get yourself laid good and proper. I would suggest Sister Anitasizzle as a committed socialist, but unfortunately, she's the other side of the Atlantic. :D:D:D

So we're all to start calling DL Cael now!?

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Originally Posted by Mousey

So we're all to start calling DL Cael now!?

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No, still Texas.

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Originally Posted by Mousey

So we're all to start calling DL Cael now!?

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Comrade Cael to you Mousey..........and I'm still keeping you under close observation. In fact Cael should feel right at home in here.......us mods operate pretty much like a cross between the Stasi and the Securitate.

Now I've got to descend deep into the Pat Bunker......Nicole has promised to lick my black boots while I whip her arse. :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by lucy chambers

No, still Texas.

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Roger... :D

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Originally Posted by carlos marvado

and I'm still keeping you under close observation.

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What did I do? I'm innocent, guv.

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Originally Posted by Mousey

What did I do? I'm innocent, guv.

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Never fear, you'll get your chance to plead your case in front of the People's Tribunal like everyone else here.......and then when you've been found guilty you will be sentenced to your just punishment in the bowels of the Patcave.

You get one final request Mousey....you can choose who get's to carry out the punishment.......Patricia, Sarah, Vampirejackie, Nicole or maybe one of the fine ladies from Ad Staff. Grown men have been known to go weak at the knees when confronted by these ladies. :D:D:D