equal before the law?

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/lo...tion-1-6350741

Okay, so let me get this right. The officer was supplying an informant with drugs as a trade off for information?

In my mind, that was a stupid thing to do, but then if the informant is a drug addict, he's going to use any money he is given to go get drugs anyway. I would think that having an informant that is a drug addict is the crime here, as I would imagine the source to be unreliable. Addiction can push boundaries and who knows what they would say to feed their habit, i.e. the information is not reliable.

really no surprise there, we don't hear the half of it

Maybe the drug addict was smarter, getting free drugs for supplying useless information

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousKate

Okay, so let me get this right. The officer was supplying an informant with drugs as a trade off for information?

In my mind, that was a stupid thing to do, but then if the informant is a drug addict, he's going to use any money he is given to go get drugs anyway. I would think that having an informant that is a drug addict is the crime here, as I would imagine the source to be unreliable. Addiction can push boundaries and who knows what they would say to feed their habit, i.e. the information is not reliable.

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morning, Kate :)
a serving detective garda supplied hard drugs and is going to walk over it.
when you say addict would a tobacco or alcohol or sex addict be as unreliable?

The allegations against the detective, which were first made in October 2011, were that he handled significant quantities of drugs for a confidential informant – in breach of garda rules.

no mention was made of anyone using drugs or being addicted to a drug. was it an assumption?

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Originally Posted by warmcome

morning, Kate :)
a serving detective garda supplied hard drugs and is going to walk over it.
when you say addict would a tobacco or alcohol or sex addict be as unreliable?

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I think it would depend on if they were able to get it freely for themselves or not. My immediate thoughts were that if the drug addict were able to get hold of drugs easily by themselves, then it would not be enough for them to part with any information. People don't generally squeal unless they really, really want or need something. Well, unless they are a complete shit with no moral code at all.

Bearing that in mind and knowing that drug addicts have been known to rob from their own families, take to prostitution and rob banks etc, to feed their addiction, which is not so prevalent amongst smokers or alcoholics (possibly because their needs are met in the corner shops at much lower prices) then it is not the same. Sex can be had for free. Least I never had to pay for my addiction ;)

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The allegations against the detective, which were first made in October 2011, were that he handled significant quantities of drugs for a confidential informant – in breach of garda rules.

no mention was made of anyone using drugs or being addicted to a drug. was it an assumption?

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True, the informant could have been a supplier and the detective could have been supplying him to take this stuff on to the streets. That makes them both scum bags.

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousKate

Okay, so let me get this right. The officer was supplying an informant with drugs as a trade off for information?

In my mind, that was a stupid thing to do, but then if the informant is a drug addict, he's going to use any money he is given to go get drugs anyway. I would think that having an informant that is a drug addict is the crime here, as I would imagine the source to be unreliable. Addiction can push boundaries and who knows what they would say to feed their habit, i.e. the information is not reliable.

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after so many years of stigma, this is the fact. society will not stigmatize drugs out of existance.
even cops are selling it now.

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Originally Posted by CurvaceousKate

Okay, so let me get this right. The officer was supplying an informant with drugs as a trade off for information?

In my mind, that was a stupid thing to do, but then if the informant is a drug addict, he's going to use any money he is given to go get drugs anyway. I would think that having an informant that is a drug addict is the crime here, as I would imagine the source to be unreliable. Addiction can push boundaries and who knows what they would say to feed their habit, i.e. the information is not reliable.

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some people would say you couldn't listen to a sex worker. but i
wouldn't be so quick to judge and generalise. what do you know about it?

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after so many years of stigma, this is the fact. society will not stigmatize drugs out of existance.
even cops are selling it now.

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The cop must have thought it was the carrot that the person needed to get what he wanted. The cop is not caring about getting the right information, as much as having the right person willing to stand up in court and say what he wants. It is corrupt, but it's not about the drugs in my eyes.

It's well known that a lot of Doctors survive with their work load by taking drugs. I'm aware of ppl in very high profile, high earning jobs that function on heroine. It's the withdrawals that make people unable to manage, not the taking of the drug, so if it is maintained, then people can and do function on them. The only way a drug taker would be an unreliable source of information, is if they were not able to maintain their addiction and it is that which makes them vulnerable and it is that which I was relating to.

Anyone who could afford their addiction would not be susceptible to a bent cop offering them drugs.

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Originally Posted by warmcome

some people would say you couldn't listen to a sex worker. but i
wouldn't be so quick to judge and generalise. what do you know about it?

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Is the sex worker taking or dependent on a mind altering drug? If she is, then I would say listen, but take it into consideration. For instance, Rachel Moran was a street worker (so she says) who was a drug addict. I do wonder how much truth is in her novel, as her new addiction seems to be promoting her book. She seems to remember things that others on the street at the time (who were not taking drugs) have no recollection of at all.

a garda drug detective sold 800k worth of heroin. so what, we don't care if a cop does that?

Anybody who has lived any amount of time here, who does not realize that the concept of being equal before the law in Ireland is just an extremely sick joke is either a profound simpleton or frighteningly lacking in social nuance!
When, as seems inevitable that the Swedish model law is brought in here (officially to protect sex workers but in reality destroying them!) you will find the great and the good punters will be never be prosecuted under it (even if caught with every trafficked woman on the island) whereas regular punters having absolutely consensual sex with willing sex workers will be in serious trouble!:mad:

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Anybody who has lived any amount of time here, who does not realize that the concept of being equal before the law in Ireland is just an extremely sick joke is either a profound simpleton or frighteningly lacking in social nuance!
When, as seems inevitable that the Swedish model law is brought in here (officially to protect sex workers but in reality destroying them!) you will find the great and the good punters will be never be prosecuted under it (even if caught with every trafficked woman on the island) whereas regular punters having absolutely consensual sex with willing sex workers will be in serious trouble!:mad:

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if that law comes in it will drive a lot of punters away..I for one dont want to be in the local paper for seeing escorts or prostitutes as the authors would put it...imagine that headline local married man joe bloggs caught with prostitute..lord you would never live it down

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if that law comes in it will drive a lot of punters away..I for one dont want to be in the local paper for seeing escorts or prostitutes as the authors would put it...imagine that headline local married man joe bloggs caught with prostitute..lord you would never live it down

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you'd have some dangler on ya? :);)

i'm a criminal already (i vapourise herb in home) i would risk being criminalised for
visiting an escort, i would challenge and probably win any charge

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Originally Posted by warmcome

i'm a criminal already (i vapourise herb in home) i would risk being criminalised for
visiting an escort, i would challenge and probably win any charge

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oh dear :rolleyes: