What a great idea.

So we are going to let some Iraqis in here? I mean seriously. How stupid can a country be. The problems in these countries are mainly religious so wtf is leaving them into a country whose religion is even further from them going to do? Im all for helping persecuted people but plz, let them into a country that more suits them and their cultures / beliefs.

:rolleyes:
Westside.

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So we are going to let some Iraqis in here? I mean seriously. How stupid can a country be. The problems in these countries are mainly religious so wtf is leaving them into a country whose religion is even further from them going to do? Im all for helping persecuted people but plz, let them into a country that more suits them and their cultures / beliefs.

:rolleyes:
Westside.

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Apsolutely but unfortunatly the Society/Culture that would suit those down to a "T" only existed over 2,000 years ago & to me "when in Rome do like the Romans" I hate they way the different nationalities EXPECT & INSIST on we having to facilitate there culture, now if U or I went to Iraq or similar & wanted our culture imposed etc I know bliddy quick what would happen /:
& I suppose a Good Europeans we have to obide with the "Do Gooders" /: ... I read somewhere that when the immigrants from ALL OVER the world were flocking to the American shores back in the 17 hundreds some was quoted as saying ... "The suirs are overflowing & Europe is Vomiting" .... I know we cant "Tar all with the same Brush" but at least keep Ur own corner safe I say :)

we shud get our house in order befour takin anyone in, im all for taking others in but sort ourselfs out first

Absolutely ridiculous but when has this country ever made any logical decisions, for the life of me I can't remember ..

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So we are going to let some Iraqis in here? I mean seriously. How stupid can a country be. The problems in these countries are mainly religious so wtf is leaving them into a country whose religion is even further from them going to do? Im all for helping persecuted people but plz, let them into a country that more suits them and their cultures / beliefs.

:rolleyes:
Westside.

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What nonsense.

Iraqi defines nationality and not religious denomination. I'm Irish and I'd hate to be assumed as Christian, or worse, Catholic.

The greatest displacement within the Iraqi population has occurred within the group who describe themselves as Christian. So, your argument falls down there. The UN also seek to place refugees in the best possible place for their future and religious beliefs are factored in to this decision. And by the way, there are a wide divergence of religious creeds based in Ireland so again your argument falls down again.

I'm all for helping persecuted people BUT

what a bunch of ignorant stupid degenerates you all are:)

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Apsolutely but unfortunatly the Society/Culture that would suit those down to a "T" only existed over 2,000 years ago & to me "when in Rome do like the Romans" I hate they way the different nationalities EXPECT & INSIST on we having to facilitate there culture, now if U or I went to Iraq or similar & wanted our culture imposed etc I know bliddy quick what would happen /:
& I suppose a Good Europeans we have to obide with the "Do Gooders" /: ... I read somewhere that when the immigrants from ALL OVER the world were flocking to the American shores back in the 17 hundreds some was quoted as saying ... "The suirs are overflowing & Europe is Vomiting" .... I know we cant "Tar all with the same Brush" but at least keep Ur own corner safe I say :)

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Generations of Irish have spent their entire lives bringing (imposing) our culture and religious beliefs to societies all per the world under the guise of Missionary work. How can you repeat this right-wing, reactionary drivel? 'You read somewhere' ????

The US in the 1700's needed immigrants. For fuck sake the 'Good Doers' of Europe kidnapped half of Africa and 'transported' them the 'New World' to build the infrastructure. The coffin ships from Ireland also provided a steady source of cheap labour. China was another source of cheap labour. I'd suggest you widen your reading to cover some facts.

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we shud get our house in order befour takin anyone in, im all for taking others in but sort ourselfs out first

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is that possible? :)

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what a bunch of ignorant stupid degenerates you all are:)

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it's saxicolous, that's what it is! ;)

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Generations of Irish have spent their entire lives bringing (imposing) our culture and religious beliefs to societies all per the world under the guise of Missionary work. How can you repeat this right-wing, reactionary drivel? 'You read somewhere' ????

The US in the 1700's needed immigrants. For fuck sake the 'Good Doers' of Europe kidnapped half of Africa and 'transported' them the 'New World' to build the infrastructure. The coffin ships from Ireland also provided a steady source of cheap labour. China was another source of cheap labour. I'd suggest you widen your reading to cover some facts.

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Say what suits Hmmmmm U should go into Polatics ... anyway with ALL Ur posts in relation to the above's "I Rest My Case" ...

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Generations of Irish have spent their entire lives bringing (imposing) our culture and religious beliefs to societies all per the world under the guise of Missionary work. How can you repeat this right-wing, reactionary drivel? 'You read somewhere' ????

The US in the 1700's needed immigrants. For fuck sake the 'Good Doers' of Europe kidnapped half of Africa and 'transported' them the 'New World' to build the infrastructure. The coffin ships from Ireland also provided a steady source of cheap labour. China was another source of cheap labour. I'd suggest you widen your reading to cover some facts.

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wow, you are a smart guy aren't you :rolleyes: Its good to see you can use google to get your information,:clapping: now if you just had a little knowledge of your own, who knows what you could have been ;)

I don't know any Iraqis

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Education is a wonderful thing!

I'm very happy with where and what it's got me. Try it, it's never too late.....

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happy, I don't think you know the meaning of this word, try googling it...;) it will have a different meaning to what you thought it was.
Anyway back to education and yes your right its never too late, thankfully i'm in university, what happened you, what about going down mature student route after of course taking some anger management lessons, in the meantime at least google is your friend.:rolleyes:

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I know you're an ignorant bigot and remarkably you seem proud of it.

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Would you please explain to me how this guy is an ignorant bigot as I've read his posts and see nowhere in any of them that would lead me to that conclusion.
Guess what, have a look in the mirror and you might actually find that ignorant bigot staring back at you.

For a self-professed well educated guy :rolleyes: you disperse a lot of ignorant nonsense.
Did I read somewhere that you were involved in counseling, now that has to be a joke, right… I ain't laughing.

I know I’m not long on here but cant stand your egotistical behaviour.
Now your taking your anger out on here by degrading and bullying people, maybe we might get to the reason why on the other thread about you on here but honestly I couldn't care less as for you its easy to say horrible things about others while hiding behind a computer screen etc, and I bet your very proud of it too.:(

[QUOTE=robin4more;1409144]Would you please explain to me how this guy is an ignorant bigot as I've read his posts and see nowhere in any of them that would lead me to that conclusion.
Guess what, have a look in the mirror and you might actually find that ignorant bigot staring back at you.

For a self-professed well educated guy :rolleyes: you disperse a lot of ignorant nonsense.
Did I read somewhere that you where involved in counseling, now that has to be a joke, right… I ain't laughing.

I know I’m not long on here but cant stand your egotistical behaviour.
Now your taking your anger out on here by degrading and bullying people, maybe we might get to the reason why on the other thread about you on here but honestly I couldn't care less as for you its easy to say horrible things about others while hiding behind a computer screen etc, and I bet your very proud of it too.:

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Let his own words speak for themselves. Typical Mé Féiner.....

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Would you please explain to me how this guy is an ignorant bigot as I've read his posts and see nowhere in any of them that would lead me to that conclusion.
Guess what, have a look in the mirror and you might actually find that ignorant bigot staring back at you.

For a self-professed well educated guy :rolleyes: you disperse a lot of ignorant nonsense.
Did I read somewhere that you where involved in counseling, now that has to be a joke, right… I ain't laughing.

I know I’m not long on here but cant stand your egotistical behaviour.
Now your taking your anger out on here by degrading and bullying people, maybe we might get to the reason why on the other thread about you on here but honestly I couldn't care less as for you its easy to say horrible things about others while hiding behind a computer screen etc, and I bet your very proud of it too.:




Let his own words speak for themselves. Typical Mé Féiner.....

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Alot of Mé Féiner's around at present and will probably be a lot more.

But it's his opinion, you don't agree with it then move on, he should be allowed to express his opinion without being subjected to constant badgering. He didn't deserve that.

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Would you please explain to me how this guy is an ignorant bigot as I've read his posts and see nowhere in any of them that would lead me to that conclusion.
Guess what, have a look in the mirror and you might actually find that ignorant bigot staring back at you.

For a self-professed well educated guy :rolleyes: you disperse a lot of ignorant nonsense.
Did I read somewhere that you were involved in counseling, now that has to be a joke, right… I ain't laughing.

I know I’m not long on here but cant stand your egotistical behaviour.
Now your taking your anger out on here by degrading and bullying people, maybe we might get to the reason why on the other thread about you on here but honestly I couldn't care less as for you its easy to say horrible things about others while hiding behind a computer screen etc, and I bet your very proud of it too.:(

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May I remind you that you started by insulting me on this thread? Before then it was simply a discussion about the issue.


I have plenty of University education behind me and before you start supporting and defending the indefensible you should drop into the library and look up empathy and responsibility. That is what the Iraqi refugees deserve and not some trite one-liners about protecting our own.

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May I remind you that you started by insulting me on this thread? Before then it was simply a discussion about the issue.


I have plenty of University education behind me and before you start supporting and defending the indefensible you should drop into the library and look up empathy and responsibility. That is what the Iraqi refugees deserve and not some trite one-liners about protecting our own.

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Wouldnt call it insulting just some fair commenting as I don't like to see other people abused for giving their opinion (bad grammar ) weather rightly or wrongly,

ok fair enough but its the way you put your comments across, you force the issue, ram them down people's throats in a way.
I am well aware of what those two words mean and didn't comment on this issue.

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am no such thing
Am semi retired now, left school at 16 to look after the farm, no reel education realy
I knoe my English is not grate, dyslexia dosent help.. I acept that but Im improvin slowily but sureily and I only start to use a pc this year as done some classes and am think am doin ok.

I will put me and my family needs first, everyone does and if that makes me a me feiner than so be it but am not an ignorant bigot.
Let people be please

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So we are going to let some Iraqis in here? I mean seriously. How stupid can a country be. The problems in these countries are mainly religious so wtf is leaving them into a country whose religion is even further from them going to do?

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I am not sure I follow your argument here — in excess of 40% of Iraqi refugees are Christian — Christianity is the largest religion in Ireland.

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am no such thing
Am semi retired now, left school at 16 to look after the farm, no reel education realy
I knoe my English is not grate, dyslexia dosent help.. I acept that but Im improvin slowily but sureily and I only start to use a pc this year as done some classes and am think am doin ok.

I will put me and my family needs first, everyone does and if that makes me a me feiner than so be it but am not an ignorant bigot.
Let people be please

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You're a farmer right?

What if the rest of society had not supported farmers with grants? I'm not arguing against it - accept that too much goes to the bigger farmers - I'm just using it as an example if how society must embrace all, especially the needy. As a city dweller I've always heard the nonsense of farmers living off the rest of society. Unfortunately, if this nonsense is repeated often enough it becomes a truism for some. Diversity in everything is best in my opinion.

yes am
the grants are coming from Europe and had a rough few years with animals dieing and crops been destroyed their but things are on the up now, take the gud with the bad, its not al plane sailing and its hard work. Agriculture is very important to ireland and if more money had being invested in it rathar then the construction industry maybe ireland wud be in a beter place now.
I worked damn hard to build up me farm and was up at 5am in the mornings and did not finish til 10pm most nites, sumnights may not get to bed at all, always sumthing happening. I love it, wudnt do nething else now neway, semi-retired and to old neway

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yes am
the grants are coming from Europe and had a rough few years with animals dieing and crops been destroyed their but things are on the up now, take the gud with the bad, its not al plane sailing and its hard work. Agriculture is very important to ireland and if more money had being invested in it rathar then the construction industry maybe ireland wud be in a beter place now.
I worked damn hard to build up me farm and was up at 5am in the mornings and did not finish til 10pm most nites, sumnights may not get to bed at all, always sumthing happening. I love it, wudnt do nething else now neway, semi-retired and to old neway

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id love to retire with a farm. get to work outside and kind of work on your own. I did a bit of farming when young and looking back it was great. Some days alright you were up early, but if you love working outdoors, nothing beats it.

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id love to retire with a farm. get to work outside and kind of work on your own. I did a bit of farming when young and looking back it was great. Some days alright you were up early, but if you love working outdoors, nothing beats it.

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Plenty of peeple doing that meursault, my neighbor purchased sum land not far from me when he was make redundunt from the bank..he has horses on it now and just loves the life…he says he shud ave done it years ago.
Great for kids to as keeps them of the playstatoins and computers and keeps them active and interesrted outside.
Land prices creepin up al the time and wil get deer again.
So it’s a gud investment also.
Ya knoe the old sayin bout land….buy as they are not makin it nemore.

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Generations of Irish have spent their entire lives bringing (imposing) our culture and religious beliefs to societies all per the world under the guise of Missionary work. How can you repeat this right-wing, reactionary drivel? 'You read somewhere' ????

The US in the 1700's needed immigrants. For fuck sake the 'Good Doers' of Europe kidnapped half of Africa and 'transported' them the 'New World' to build the infrastructure. The coffin ships from Ireland also provided a steady source of cheap labour. China was another source of cheap labour. I'd suggest you widen your reading to cover some facts.

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Am they didn't get off the boat... the slaves where waiting on the shores by native slavers furthermore that ship might have had Irish slave aboard

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What nonsense.

Iraqi defines nationality and not religious denomination. I'm Irish and I'd hate to be assumed as Christian, or worse, Catholic.

The greatest displacement within the Iraqi population has occurred within the group who describe themselves as Christian. So, your argument falls down there. The UN also seek to place refugees in the best possible place for their future and religious beliefs are factored in to this decision. And by the way, there are a wide divergence of religious creeds based in Ireland so again your argument falls down again.

I'm all for helping persecuted people BUT

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FFS its simple enough. Most of these eastern religions are best left in the East. They arent suited to our way of life. The Indian woman who died not long ago is a typical eg. Is she was in her own country shed still be alive.

Westside.

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Generations of Irish have spent their entire lives bringing (imposing) our culture and religious beliefs to societies all per the world under the guise of Missionary work. How can you repeat this right-wing, reactionary drivel? 'You read somewhere' ????

The US in the 1700's needed immigrants. For fuck sake the 'Good Doers' of Europe kidnapped half of Africa and 'transported' them the 'New World' to build the infrastructure. The coffin ships from Ireland also provided a steady source of cheap labour. China was another source of cheap labour. I'd suggest you widen your reading to cover some facts.

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Oh you mean like the Irish who lived and worked in the UK after fighting for them? Give me a fuckin break. I cant remember too many muslims doing anything for me bar handing out leaflets in a failed attempt to convert me to their rubbish.

Westside.

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I am not sure I follow your argument here — in excess of 40% of Iraqi refugees are Christian — Christianity is the largest religion in Ireland.

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Maybe so but there are several things against this imo. They arent the same as christians here. IMO they are all cunts but thats another days work I guess.

Westside.

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Maybe so but there are several things against this imo. They arent the same as christians here. IMO they are all cunts but thats another days work I guess.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion — may I ask how you formed your opinion on Iraqi people?