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LaBelleThatcher
14-06-12, 16:00
According to a survey by Manpower US in December 2011 :
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-57335303/84-percent-of-workers-looking-to-leave-their-jobs/
84% of workers are planning to leave their jobs and only *5%* plan to be in the same job in 12 months time.
Deloitte Index's Shift Survey (20210) says 80% of people hate their jobs:
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-do-you-do-when-you-hate-your-job-2010-10
A 2010 UK survey conducted by http://www.caterer.com not only shows 70% of workers overall to be "miserable" in their jobs, but also provides a breakdown by industry:
http://www.10yetis.co.uk/releases/caterer-workers.html
(The highest figure of people satisfied with their jobs - 49.16% - is in the hospitality sector which is the closest equivalent to the sex industry)
So even in the unlikely event that the unsubstantiated 90% guesstimate were accurate, it is hardly unusual, and taking in to account the numbers of survival and crisis sex workers, might even be below the norm.
EnglishAlex
14-06-12, 16:23
And 89.765% of statistics are made up ;)
LaBelleThatcher
14-06-12, 17:12
And 89.765% of statistics are made up ;)
You mean I could just make up my own numbers?
I think that might be WRONG. :eek:
alterego31
14-06-12, 22:58
80% of ALL workers hate their job
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-10-04/strategy/30001895_1_new-job-passion-careers
More than HALF of all workers want to QUIT their job
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/the-daily-need/survey-half-of-us-want-to-quit-our-jobs/9990/
According to a survey by Manpower US in December 2011 :
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-57335303/84-percent-of-workers-looking-to-leave-their-jobs/
84% of workers are planning to leave their jobs and only *5%* plan to be in the same job in 12 months time.
Deloitte Index's Shift Survey (20210) says 80% of people hate their jobs:
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-do-you-do-when-you-hate-your-job-2010-10
A 2010 UK survey conducted by http://www.caterer.com not only shows 70% of workers overall to be "miserable" in their jobs, but also provides a breakdown by industry:
http://www.10yetis.co.uk/releases/caterer-workers.html
(The highest figure of people satisfied with their jobs - 49.16% - is in the hospitality sector which is the closest equivalent to the sex industry)
So even in the unlikely event that the unsubstantiated 90% guesstimate were accurate, it is hardly unusual, and taking in to account the numbers of survival and crisis sex workers, might even be below the norm.
Better late than never
Err have they done the same survey to McDonalds staff?
LaBelleThatcher
03-07-12, 13:07
Better late than never
Err have they done the same survey to McDonalds staff?
Oh...sorry...fogot that...in an anonymous survey, 147% of McDonalds staff surveyed want to quit before the end of the week, with 67.389% contemplating jumping off a tall building some time later today.
Here's a stat you can't deny
100% of people hate being broke
If someone chooses, of their own freewill, to earn that living in the sex industry then so be it. They should be afforded the same levels of protection afforded by the state to other workers too.
I don't want to leave, I want to get busy
LaBelleThatcher
03-07-12, 13:55
Here's a stat you can't deny
100% of people hate being broke
Ah now braveboy, I think that is a bit of an exaggeration...recent opinion polls suggest that 23% of people only mildly dislike being broke, 7.6% do not mind, 13.4% quite like it as long as their partner remains fairly wealthy and 3% are confused by the question...
If someone chooses, of their own freewill, to earn that living in the sex industry then so be it. They should be afforded the same levels of protection afforded by the state to other workers too.
Here is something banging around in my own head lately. Whenever I worked as a sex provider it was at a time when there was absolutely no other way that I could get and adequate livelihood or sometimes any livelihood at all.
That is a very different kind of "no choice" to anything Ruhama and TORL bang on about (though, like a lot of other things they do their level best to confuse the two and exploit that confusion to the detriment of sex workers), but it is still "no choice", with potentially drastic consequences, and, like any other brand of "no choice" the only real solution is to *OFFER ALTERNATIVE CHOICES* if possible, and, if not, to make the only available choice as safe, pleasant and comfortable as possible.
I am coming to believe that I have an ABSOLUTE MORAL AND HUMAN RIGHT to the only choice available to me without let or hindrance (including strategies calculated to disrupt demand and make that choice non-viable). I am also coming to believe that I have a similar absolute moral and human right to exercise the only choice available to me, apart from welfare dependency, if I choose to do so.
I agree completely. For some the path is taken for survival. I can't imagine the trauma involved in that decision.
I never understand why people with no experience butt in to make difficult situations worse. It's not good intention - thats bullshit. To help, as you say, you have to provide hope and opportunity. These 'agencies' would help a lot more iof they focused resources on creating a safe, clean environment and a pathway out for those who are here because of no choice.
However that would not get them their publicity or funding.
Btw, can't believe its as low as 23%. Publish those findings or be damned!!!!
Hey, Thatcher, I've been thinking, that you might have passed the opportunity to become an emperress but since I heard that religions aren't affected by income tax, how about starting our own Goddess cult?
This sounds like my kinda church.
Baptise me now!!!!
Hey, Thatcher, I've been thinking, that you might have passed the opportunity to become an emperress but since I heard that religions aren't affected by income tax, how about starting our own Goddess cult?
That is a brilliant idea Anna!:D In ancient times there used to be fertility cults - where sex with the temple priestesses were part of the religion!!!
If the prostitution legislation goes belly up, forming a new religion might be a good idea.
The ladies will be the priestesses and the men will be the worshippers! Who's to argue if you say sex part of this religion. And just like any other religious institution - you will be collecting money (offerings) to run the temple!!!:p
That is a brilliant idea Anna!:D In ancient times there used to be fertility cults - where sex with the temple priestesses were part of the religion!!!
If the prostitution legislation goes belly up, forming a new religion might be a good idea.
The ladies will be the priestesses and the men will be the worshippers! Who's to argue if you say sex part of this religion. And just like any other religious institution - you will be collecting money (offerings) to run the temple!!!:p
Thats exactly what I have in mind, my dear. I'll be the chief priestess. LaBelle can be my advisor and Pat can close the shop:D
LaBelleThatcher
03-07-12, 21:13
I agree completely. For some the path is taken for survival. I can't imagine the trauma involved in that decision.
I never understand why people with no experience butt in to make difficult situations worse. It's not good intention - thats bullshit. To help, as you say, you have to provide hope and opportunity. These 'agencies' would help a lot more iof they focused resources on creating a safe, clean environment and a pathway out for those who are here because of no choice.
However that would not get them their publicity or funding.
Btw, can't believe its as low as 23%. Publish those findings or be damned!!!!
Here is the thing, when I strip the hype out of my own mind, it is the circumstances that only leave you with one option that is the trauma, not that fact that option happens to be sex work.
Then, trying to find the right words to put this across, the very fact of being railroaded by life without having options is traumatic *EVEN IF* you would otherwise be perfectly comfortable with what you are doing, nobody is perfectly comfortable feeling trapped. Although, given the times that are in it, a lot of people are having to get used to that feeling. Speaking of which, I would imagine a lot of sex workers are suddenly just as much trapped where they are by the recession as anyone else. NGOs constantly threatening to take their income from sex work away too must feel like a kind of torture.
We all have to accept that when there is no money, business goes down, but for business to go down unnecessarily, just because a crowd of spoiled, privileged little madams, who will never know a day of wat in their worthless lives, wanted to have fancy titles, oil each others egos and impose their control and the latest silly, ideological fad on other people's lives?
THAT is enough to enrage and normal decent, hardworking woman.
You can't even relegate them to providing services for those who want to get out, because they would still be the same ambitious, manipulative, controlling, deceitful, morally bankrupt little madams they are now, and that is absolutely no help to anyone who is miserable, vulnerable and needs to change her life.
The only people they are fit to provide services for are the likes of Stella Marr DublinCallGirl and FreeIrishWoman who are dishonest, ruthless, and want to get rich by riding their agenda.
They are no use to real sex workers who want to get out at all, in fact, they are more like the last thing they will ever need..
(post disrupted by many phone calls )