View Full Version : I can't have anyone else get the blame for my error.
LaBelleThatcher
17-05-12, 16:42
Since I can to this site, convinced I was walking into Dracula's castle, I have come to like and respect so many people more than I can say, and especially Pat and the staff, I CANNOT let a mistake I have made be used to reflect badly on them.
Somebody told me DublinCallGirl's E-I ID long before I posted here. I had my doubts, but as soon as I checked it out it was pretty obvious it was the truth, and that it cast her whole blogging in a very different, far more dishonest light than I had originally believed. I have sat on this while she has not only made one false accusation after another against me, but also showed herself to be more and more of a hypocrite, in a way that is, at least to a degree, more calculated than pathological. I did not sit on this information for DublinCallGirl's sake. I believe that the truth ought to be exposed before she is used as the symbol of a campaign that is aimed at doing terrible harm to everybody involved in the Irish sex industry. I have only ever sat on this information out of respect for Pat and her staff and the standards of courtesy and respect they choose to uphold.
During the recent discussion on http://www.thejournal.ie/women-sell-sex-because-they-have-to-says-new-campaign-451428-May2012/ (it is all deleted now) Dublincallgirl, once again, launched a load of false accusations at me, for no reason, in fact, I had just confirmed that, to the best of my knowledge, she is a real person not some kind of fictional sock puppet. I was extremely upset (I usually am by all these lies and false accusations flung at me and others just for telling the truth, but letting it show is never a good idea) but I replied with a fairly calm one liner...except when I checked it had posted, I realised I had, in fact, addressed her by her E-I ID.
I did what I could, within seconds I reported the post myself and asked it be taken down urgently, and it is not as though either "Dublincallgirl" or the ID is her real name, or would expose her to any kind of risk or harm. But Ruhama and friends are making a horrible fuss on, at least, Twitter and trying to blame my slip up on E-I, and I can't just let that happen and snowball into another dishonest hate campaign.
I must apologise to Pat, the staff, and all of you, for letting you down in this way, but I cannot have you carrying the can for me, whatever anybody wants to say, you are some of the most decent, genuine people I have ever met in my life, and Ruhama, DublinCallGirl and friends are some of the most twisted and rotten.
I am glad I got to know you all and find that out, and sorry I fecked it up.
Eileen x
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Half Man and Half Dildo
17-05-12, 18:49
This would explain your post being deleted.
I had seen the article the day it was posted and had kept an eye on it for most of the morning and early afternoon. When I checked later a post of yours I had read earlier was gone, Perhaps I'm wrong, but I believe it was the rather long one where you mentioned that two thirds of their Government grant was spent on salaries and expenses. At the time I thought it was Ruhama who had complained about it and asked that it be deleted.
I think it might be a good idea if you contact theJournal and have them verify your story.
LaBelleThatcher
17-05-12, 19:21
No, there was more than one of my posts deleted at the same time, people remarked it, but *BECAUSE* it was all at the same time and others were left I think it might just have been a mod trying to identify the right post and get it. I assumed the report would come up on the right post...so I don't think I even specified what I had said (I was really panicking).
By today they have deleted LOADS of posts (including the thread she attacked me on) so I don't think there is any point in contacting the Journal, they are owned by the same people who own boards.ie anyway, they might easily deny or distort rather than verify. I could just make things worse...
It is surreal, at this stage I am actually being cyberbullied by the woman who used to run the women's aid helpline (for real)! I am told DCG/Ruhama is going to reveal my real name (which they may well know), chances are they will make sure I appear in this weeks SW as the latest incarnation of P. McCormick, I am sure E-I will clear that up for me, but everything about my life as I know it will be over anyway.
I don't regret it...this is going to sound like a form of self harm, but I just COULD NOT stand in silence watching the lies and hypocrasy while they twisted and distorted and exploited EVERYTHING I lived through, and watched other people live through, for one minute longer, especially when the sole objective was to make things worse for people like me in the future...it is like a really sick joke...
...and the deeper I got in the more I learned about the other kinds of harm these people do, given the chance, to people who have very different lives from mine, but are just as valid and decent anyway.
I can't win this. I know that. At the end of the day, these people play very, VERY dirty and I can't live with playing it that way. But I couldn't live with just standing back, saying nothing, and pretending there was anything honest or sincere about what they are trying to do, because that would make me an accessory to something I know to be wrong.
Watch what these b*stards do to me from here on in and then try to tell me they have one iota of "sincere concern" for "women involved in purrostitution", all because I accidentally gave half as good as I got to their tame histrionic bully.. But at least I can stand to look at my face in the mirror in the morning...I couldn't have any other way...
Sorry, I am really in bits over all this...
LaBelleThatcher
17-05-12, 19:53
Ok, self pity over session over...these b*stards make good salaries and a full time job out of trying to ruin the lives of every sex worker in the country and they couldn't care less what kind of mess that will leave their lives in, and a lot of them will be left far worse off than I will if Ruhama and Turn Off the Red Light have their way.
Lucy Chambers
17-05-12, 21:53
Ok, self pity over session over...these b*stards make good salaries and a full time job out of trying to ruin the lives of every sex worker in the country and they couldn't care less what kind of mess that will leave their lives in, and a lot of them will be left far worse off than I will if Ruhama and Turn Off the Red Light have their way.
La Belle,
Is it true that you revealed the online poster ID of Dublin Secret Callgirl in the comments section of Journal.ie? I should like to put this rumour to bed if not.
LaBelleThatcher
17-05-12, 22:21
Lucy, if you look at the first post above I wrote out exactly what really happened, as it happened and all that was involved was one of her anonymous, online poster IDs.
I thought with a bit of luck nobody even saw it (they probably didn't).
I feel terrible that I let down everyone at E-I...and that Ruhama and a load of their internet trolls are blaming E-I for it when they had nothing to do with it and no idea it had happened, but I couldn't care less about DCG, because, if anyone *did* see it all it did is show up her blog for the whopping great chain of self serving lies it always was. She does not have any form of divine right to con people, bully people or lie about people, then get Ruhama to help her blame them for it, as and when it suits her...
La Belle,
Is it true that you revealed the online poster ID of Dublin Secret Callgirl in the comments section of Journal.ie? I should like to put this rumour to bed if not.
I would gather that is the case from what I can see.
My initial thoughts...
It's hypocrisy of the highest order if DCG is playing the victim over this. She sat on her own blog posting personal identifying information about others. I won't repeat examples here as we have a policy of not posting other people's personal info on E-I, but I did see her doing this on her blog with my own eyes. Now somebody has mentioned a DCG alias that it is well known by many that she used on this website for a time - Yes that's right, an alias, not a real name or address or occupation or anything that could identify her - and she is the victim of a terrible crime now. Sweet Jesus, I know she was looking for an excuse to close her blog under the guise of her being a victim of some sort of harassment, but seriously :rolleyes:
Did somebody say Sunday World story? Oh please allow me to provide some quotes:
https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/threads/91064-Ciaran-Barnes-Sunday-Life
LaBelleThatcher
17-05-12, 22:36
I am so sorry though Pat...as you know, my head hasn't been 100% on the plot past few days...
I am so sorry though Pat...as you know, my head hasn't been 100% on the plot past few days...
No need to be sorry towards me/E-I. I think if there is any storm here it is the stuff of teacups. Reality check please. I refer to my Sunday World / Sunday Life thread again. Escorts are getting identified all the time in these rags - names, photos, addresses etc - and Ruhama are actively encouraging this. If you'd posted DCG's real name, address, a photo of her face, a photo of her tits, I would have to say that is wrong, but we are talking about an Internet alias here.
Lucy Chambers
17-05-12, 22:55
I would gather that is the case from what I can see.
My initial thoughts...
It's hypocrisy of the highest order if DCG is playing the victim over this. She sat on her own blog posting personal identifying information about others. I won't repeat examples here as we have a policy of not posting other people's personal info on E-I, but I did see her doing this on her blog with my own eyes. Now somebody has mentioned a DCG alias that it is well known by many that she used on this website for a time - Yes that's right, an alias, not a real name or address or occupation or anything that could identify her - and she is the victim of a terrible crime now. Sweet Jesus, I know she was looking for an excuse to close her blog under the guise of her being a victim of some sort of harassment, but seriously :rolleyes:
That would be cool if your mods hadnt banned someone for comments on her blog. I am sure you see the need to be subjective.
As to your comments Pat, all well and good and I understand them fully. But, lets assume for one moment that this is an entirely valid blog that has been hijacked by Ruhama- is it right to pick at this in this way?
The lady has never slandered EI or any other. I think we owe this the respect it is due for now.
That would be cool if your mods hadnt banned someone for comments on her blog. I am sure you see the need to be subjective.
As to your comments Pat, all well and good and I understand them fully. But, lets assume for one moment that this is an entirely valid blog that has been hijacked by Ruhama- is it right to pick at this in this way?
The lady has never slandered EI or any other. I think we owe this the respect it is due for now.
I'd say it wasn't me who banned anyone for comments they made on that blog, and this isn't really the thread to be discussing moderation issues, but I will look into that.
Regards your overall sentiments, I am sort of with you. I certainly wouldn't want DCG to be abused by people or have people posting her personal info, same as I wouldn't want anyone to do that to any escort, former escort or other human being. I don't think there has been any great disrespect shown to DCG here, though I'm open to reconsidering that if people feel differently, it's easy to stray in these areas. Yes some people including myself have criticised DCG, others have also praised her writing here, we are just debating a blog put up under an alias to promote certain views, and in the context of that opinions come out.
DCG was in the habit of posting other people's personal info in her blog. Will be happy to PM re this if you like. Don't want the details of what other people's personal info she posted here, as it is against our no personal info posting policy.
Lucy Chambers
17-05-12, 23:33
I'd say it wasn't me who banned anyone for comments they made on that blog, and this isn't really the thread to be discussing moderation issues, but I will look into that.
Regards your overall sentiments, I am sort of with you. I certainly wouldn't want DCG to be abused by people or have people posting her personal info, same as I wouldn't want anyone to do that to any escort, former escort or other human being. I don't think there has been any great disrespect shown to DCG here, though I'm open to reconsidering that if people feel differently, it's easy to stray in these areas. Yes some people including myself have criticised DCG, others have also praised her writing here, we are just debating a blog put up under an alias to promote certain views, and in the context of that opinions come out.
DCG was in the habit of posting other people's personal info in her blog. Will be happy to PM re this if you like. Don't want the details of what other people's personal info she posted here, as it is against our no personal info posting policy.
I know it wasnt you and I am not disputing actions taken. I am also feeling quite inquisitive about certain things, I believe you are aware of certain facts and are better than petty supposition. She has made no cliams to EI or her treatment therin, perhaps we owe her the benefit of the doubt. I feel you are able to protect her profile now, be it true or not. I think if it is true, you have acted with honour. If it is not, you have also acted with honour. If you disparage it- well. There is no honour Pat.
LaBelleThatcher
17-05-12, 23:38
Thank for the reality check...the organisation tweeting (and now deleting, but I have screen shots) malicious attacks at me today over accidentally blurting an anonymous ID would have probably given me an award if I exposed a few sex workers and their families, by full names and address in a red top...because that is what they usually do.
If I posted DCG's real ID, in any form, here it would be gone in seconds, and so would I, but if I published it in the SW I would probably get a Ruhama Pulitzer...there is a message in there somewhere...
If I posted DCG's real ID, in any form, here it would be gone in seconds, and so would I, but if I published it in the SW I would probably get a Ruhama Pulitzer...there is a message in there somewhere...
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the SW?:confused:
LaBelleThatcher
18-05-12, 14:44
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the SW?:confused:
Morpheus, I think your question sums up your gentle intellect so well you should consider having it engraved on your tombstone. :)
"SW" is the "Sunday World" - a periodical I somehow doubt you will ever subscribe to.
Ruhama actually gave their one and only Journalism award to Eamonn Dillon of the Sunday World, who makes his career out of identifying and exposing the *real* names, homes and families of sex workers, with devastating effect.
I think this thread can best be summarized as an apology for something that didn't do any damage. Labelle you were right to acknowledge a mistake but one that did no damage except to yourself. We must always remember this is the internet and people are not as good at putting two and two together as we think. I agree whole heartedly with you all regarding the exposing of ladies names, faces etc, hypocrisy of the highest order.