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itstimenow
29-01-12, 09:55
https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/izabella9-russian-female-escort.html
.i dont agree with this guy and feel a neg review is harsh 4 sumting dats half his fault,
but do most actually think because time spent with a lady doesnt go to plan she deserves a bad review?
saoirsemac
29-01-12, 10:52
well considering she wasnt doing what she listed and for some guys that doesnt work!
some guys can go right oral wth condom bend over shag out the door amsterdam style
other gents need the kissing foreplay to gain arousal remember its they aint all young bucks,
and there too many girls who list favourites and do not carry them out, and personaly the hygiene excuse gets old,
if they wont wash tell them to leave hand back money its the only way they learn, simple! and most when giving the option wash or leave will wash for u,
jesus sometimes when i read over what i wrote i can;t believe i have to say it how to force grown men to wash before u shag them jesus
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 11:15
well considering she wasnt doing what she listed and for some guys that doesnt work!
some guys can go right oral wth condom bend over shag out the door amsterdam style
other gents need the kissing foreplay to gain arousal remember its they aint all young bucks,
and there too many girls who list favourites and do not carry them out, and personaly the hygiene excuse gets old,
if they wont wash tell them to leave hand back money its the only way they learn, simple! and most when giving the option wash or leave will wash for u,
jesus sometimes when i read over what i wrote i can;t believe i have to say it how to force grown men to wash before u shag them jesus
Eh? His main problem seems that he wasnt offered a shower Orls. He actually wanted to wash.
saoirsemac
29-01-12, 11:26
Eh? His main problem seems that he wasnt offered a shower Orls. He actually wanted to wash.
re read it didnt see the ''not'' sorry, my glasses are fucked
how can u work like that eh
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 11:34
re read it didnt see the ''not'' sorry, my glasses are fucked
how can u work like that eh
Ah. I was wondering if I read the right review :)
To the OP. Its a difficult one, but f the client offered to wash, tried to even, then wasnt offered the services he thought he was paying for, there is little recourse other than to review. Its unfortunate, but at least he was honest about the ladies looks, and said she was very attractive. Its never nice to get a bad review, but in this case it seems a balanced negative.
saoirsemac
29-01-12, 11:45
Ah. I was wondering if I read the right review :)
To the OP. Its a difficult one, but f the client offered to wash, tried to even, then wasnt offered the services he thought he was paying for, there is little recourse other than to review. Its unfortunate, but at least he was honest about the ladies looks, and said she was very attractive. Its never nice to get a bad review, but in this case it seems a balanced negative.
u read some reviews are ur like arsehole, and if u got a pm booking u might avoid
he however had revelent enu points, and he was a wanker over it, so if he pm seeing that i take his booking
if u get me
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:03
well its not her fault he hadnt showered before,i cant see a bad review 4 that, its not her fault dey didnt click,i cant see a bad review 4 dat either, she likes to end appointments on time,surely she doesnt deserve a bad review for that, so really the only thing dat da guy has a point with is her lists,no french kissing,ok mayb he wasnt clean but since he likes to wash first we can assume he was but as loads of us say ask the ladies first before you hand over cash,i think a neg review is very harsh here.and wat is he not recommending her for actually? mayb a grey at worst but not a red
Ah. I was wondering if I read the right review :)
To the OP. Its a difficult one, but f the client offered to wash, tried to even, then wasnt offered the services he thought he was paying for, there is little recourse other than to review. Its unfortunate, but at least he was honest about the ladies looks, and said she was very attractive. Its never nice to get a bad review, but in this case it seems a balanced negative.
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 12:18
well its not her fault he hadnt showered before,i cant see a bad review 4 that, its not her fault dey didnt click,i cant see a bad review 4 dat either, she likes to end appointments on time,surely she doesnt deserve a bad review for that, so really the only thing dat da guy has a point with is her lists,no french kissing,ok mayb he wasnt clean but since he likes to wash first we can assume he was but as loads of us say ask the ladies first before you hand over cash,i think a neg review is very harsh here.and wat is he not recommending her for actually? mayb a grey at worst but not a red
I see where you are coming from, but its standard to offer a shower, and he obviously assumed the services were on offer. I'm not actually sure how you submit a review, is it so many points for each happy tick? As to why he isnt recommending her, I guess because he feel she didnt offer a good service, but isnt that subjective to each client any way?
I see where you are coming from, but its standard to offer a shower, and he obviously assumed the services were on offer. I'm not actually sure how you submit a review, is it so many points for each happy tick?
It works on the drop-box options for, very satisfied, fairly satisfied, neither satified or disappointed, etc.. and whether or not the client would see the escort again.
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 12:22
It works on the drop-box options for, very satisfied, fairly satisfied, neither satified or disappointed, etc.. and whether or not the client would see the escort again.
Ah, I see. So in this case he hasnt actually given her a red review, the system is automatic. I think if he had said happy with accomodation it would be grey, yup?
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:22
everyone is dif but i jus feel de only thing she can be faulted on is the french kissing,did he even ask for gel.or even ask 4 sumting and if she had nothing at all he shud of just left,a neg review here is harsh just for one thing really
I see where you are coming from, but its standard to offer a shower, and he obviously assumed the services were on offer. I'm not actually sure how you submit a review, is it so many points for each happy tick?
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 12:24
everyone is dif but i jus feel de only thing she can be faulted on is the french kissing,did he even ask for gel.or even ask 4 sumting and if she had nothing at all he shud of just left,a neg review here is harsh just for one thing really
Im guess ing you have seen the lady :D
Well then its simple. Go and see her again and leave her a review for your latest service, Then clients will see a different picture. Unfortunately, much like TripAdvisor, no two people will have the same opinion of a trip.
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:25
no he gave a bad review by saying he was disapointed with overall meeting but again its really just based on da french kissing
Ah, I see. So in this case he hasnt actually given her a red review, the system is automatic. I think if he had said happy with accomodation it would be grey, yup?
You need to bear in mind that everyone's perception of an appointment is different too. Some also take things more personally than others, for example, they may have been refused a listed service like french kissing because their breath smells like the back end of a gorilla; if that was me, I would be embarassed that I didn't clean my teeth properly and would bare the brunt of that, but some people may think it is their God-given right to discredit the very person who would have retched all over them for it should they have acquiesced :rolleyes:
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 12:26
no he gave a bad review by saying he was disapointed with overall meeting but again its really just based on da french kissing
Ok, I get that. But look at the bigger picture. If the lady had no shower gel, how was she having a shower? He thought he was going to get OWO, he didnt. He thought he could kiss, he couldnt. Im not too sure why you disagree so strongly?
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:27
ok i think your missing my point here,and no i havnt seen this lady
Im guess ing you have seen the lady :D
Well then its simple. Go and see her again and leave her a review for your latest service, Then clients will see a different picture. Unfortunately, much like TripAdvisor, no two people will have the same opinion of a trip.
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 12:28
ok i think your missing my point here,and no i havnt seen this lady
Help me out then?
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:30
this is my point dude,this is why i said what defines a good or bad review,
You need to bear in mind that everyone's perception of an appointment is different too. Some also take things more personally than others, for example, they may have been refused a listed service like french kissing because their breath smells like the back end of a gorilla; if that was me, I would be embarassed that I didn't clean my teeth properly and would bare the brunt of that, but some people may think it is their God-given right to discredit the very person who would have retched all over them for it should they have acquiesced :rolleyes:
I never understood why people make an issue of someone else's reviews anyway? I can understand if it was malicious or too personal, but never when it's a balanced and informative review? Generally, why do people get so passionate about it? I'm not a punter so I can't really relate to it. :confused:
Another thing, a lot of the time, the escorts that actually bear the brunt of a bad review tends to just get on with it, although we do also get a lot of complaints about fake reviews. Why do clients get so wound up by it?
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:32
ofcourse not everyone will like the same lady but as alot of reviews will jus say we didnt click or id recommend but wouldnt see again,this review is basiclly based on that dey just didnt click and she didnt offer a shower and dat she didnt allow him to stay longer den he paid 4,
Help me out then?
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:35
well sam i think da words wound up is is way off,its a topic bro and if i had put it in general topic you would of moved it to here so i think eis own actions on some topics has caused you to assume its a problem 4 me,i appologise 4 your miss understanding but its just a topic on what defines a good or bad review,i just used this review as a sample
I never understood why people make an issue of someone else's reviews anyway? I can understand if it was malicious or too personal, but never when it's a balanced and informative review? Generally, why do people get so passionate about it? I'm not a punter so I can't really relate to it. :confused:
Another thing, a lot of the time, the escorts that actually bear the brunt of a bad review tends to just get on with it, although we do also get a lot of complaints about fake reviews. Why do clients get so wound up by it?
well sam i think da words wound up is is way off,its a topic bro and if i had put it in general topic you would of moved it to here so i think eis own actions on some topics has caused you to assume its a problem 4 me,i appologise 4 your miss understanding but its just a topic on what defines a good or bad review,i just used this review as a sample
Oh, no... I was speaking very generally. Sorry, I wasn't clear on that.
itstimenow
29-01-12, 12:39
hey no problem sam 4 nobody is perfect,nice of you to admit that though...
Oh, no... I was speaking very generally. Sorry, I wasn't clear on that.
to be honest, seems OK to me. the only thing I'd have an issue with is saying "we did not connect at all ". That's not really the escorts fault. It takes 2 to tango.
Regarding the shower comment, I don't see anything wrong with that. Even for those that shower before hand, a quick freshen up is always good. And all hygiene conscientious escorts will supply the necessary toiletries.
Im afraid I would have also left a negative review in this case, Im very very aware of the effect a negative review can have and as such I would probably tend towards if in doubt give the lady the benifit of the doubt and still leave a good review.
I think out of my reviews there is perhaps only one negative and it was for very similar reasons to the review in question, services advertised that the escort had no intention of providing and a total lack of any sort of intimacy or GFE which is what I need to get aroused.
Perhaps when he discovered there were no facilities for showering he should have left as I would have, ok if you live in a major city its fine to say shower before you leave for a appointment but for those of us in more rural locations its not practical as I have on average a 45min to 1 hour drive and im sorry but even after a shower before I leave home I still prefer to freshen up before any services are received. It's just good manners in my opinion.
itstimenow
29-01-12, 19:32
i here wat a few are saying alright . i left a place too as she only had cold water and i wanted to wash but i didnt give her a bad review for it,yes da french kissing thing perhaps but do you not think alot of this could have been avoided by leaving after finding out der was no gel or asking before money was handed over and knowing what was on offer,its hard though at times to leave a review and ya feel its fair or not,
Im afraid I would have also left a negative review in this case, Im very very aware of the effect a negative review can have and as such I would probably tend towards if in doubt give the lady the benifit of the doubt and still leave a good review.
I think out of my reviews there is perhaps only one negative and it was for very similar reasons to the review in question, services advertised that the escort had no intention of providing and a total lack of any sort of intimacy or GFE which is what I need to get aroused.
Perhaps when he discovered there were no facilities for showering he should have left as I would have, ok if you live in a major city its fine to say shower before you leave for a appointment but for those of us in more rural locations its not practical as I have on average a 45min to 1 hour drive and im sorry but even after a shower before I leave home I still prefer to freshen up before any services are received. It's just good manners in my opinion.
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 20:14
i here wat a few are saying alright . i left a place too as she only had cold water and i wanted to wash but i didnt give her a bad review for it,yes da french kissing thing perhaps but do you not think alot of this could have been avoided by leaving after finding out der was no gel or asking before money was handed over and knowing what was on offer,its hard though at times to leave a review and ya feel its fair or not,
Look at this a different way. How is it fair to advertise services you have no intention of offering? Is that not false advertising?
gentelmandave
29-01-12, 20:19
to be honest, seems OK to me. the only thing I'd have an issue with is saying "we did not connect at all ". That's not really the escorts fault. It takes 2 to tango.
Regarding the shower comment, I don't see anything wrong with that. Even for those that shower before hand, a quick freshen up is always good. And all hygiene conscientious escorts will supply the necessary toiletries.
As you say "a Quick freshen up is always good" It shows respect for the lady you are seen, Honestely if she said there wasn't a proper shower facalities, i would have walked straight away, and wouldnt have left a review.
itstimenow
29-01-12, 20:23
im jus curious hun is all.
Look at this a different way. How is it fair to advertise services you have no intention of offering? Is that not false advertising?
Lucy Chambers
29-01-12, 20:57
im jus curious hun is all.
So am I :)
I never understood why people make an issue of someone else's reviews anyway? I can understand if it was malicious or too personal, but never when it's a balanced and informative review? Generally, why do people get so passionate about it? I'm not a punter so I can't really relate to it. :confused:
Another thing, a lot of the time, the escorts that actually bear the brunt of a bad review tends to just get on with it, although we do also get a lot of complaints about fake reviews. Why do clients get so wound up by it?
Ha! Ha! Sam! I'm sure you ask yourself that question many times a day about various topics raised on this forum - all giving you a headache!:)
However, I can see where this is coming from. Reviews are a really important part of this industry, for clients and escorts alike. Although I know some would disagree.
I think part of the issue is consistency in what constitutes a green star versus a grey or red star?
However, I think that flawed as the system is , I do think it maintains a good balance at the moment.
The star/button comes down to one question in the tick box section: How happy were you with the experience overall? - Very happy, Fairly happy, Neither happy nor unhappy, Fairly unhappy, Very unhappy.
The first two options give a green plus button, the middle option gives a grey button, and the last two generate a red button.
I think it is a fair question and the appropriate one to determine the rating of the appointment. Of course the problem is each client may have a different definition of what makes the overall experience Very happy, Fairly happy, Neither happy nor unhappy, Fairly unhappy, Very unhappy.
I don't think there is solutiuon to this. If it becomes too prescriptive then the review system loses it's value. I presume the review mods have some leeway in changing the overall rating if it doesn't tally at all with what is written. Also we have this section of the forum to discuss reviews that we disagree with.
It has been said that often a review says more about the reviewer than the lady being reviewed! But this in itself is very useful. When looking at the reviews of a lady I am planning to see I would often check out the negative reviews, and then check out the reviews by that said reviewer. I quickly get an impression of whether the said reviewer is reasonable or not, and then make up my own mind based on the lady's other reviews.
i dont really know i just read the review now, i think the 2 people are at fault here, i dont think the escort in name should confirmid that booking if she new there was no shower gel, like come on shower gel wud cost about 1 or 2 euro thats the cheapeast brand lol
and i think the said reviwer shud of knowing by the start if there was no shower gel there!! and as for the no french kissing thing well maybe he had smelly breath and as he said in the review there was no toiltries so how cud he use mouthwash??
so the 2 are at fault here but i think the said lady is more at fault you dont advertise any of them favourites eg. fk if there is no mouth wash in the appartment, she should of not accepted his booking at all!! and the said reviwer shud of left cause like no shower gel or mouthwash= your defo not touching my face lol he shud of politly refused and she shud of not taking the booking!!
but hey you live and learn dont ya ;)
he shud of left and left an n/a review , but hey i cant be everyones mammy to hold there hand lol we make decisions in life, whether its the right 1 or not :)
but i still think she shud not of confirmed that booking without any toiltries :)
im guessing there was no mouthwash offered cause he wasnt even offered a shower!!
"Part Deux"
These are things for which I would give a negative rating. (Note: I haven't given a negative review yet)
1) The lady treats me like shit (please don't ask me to define that. I just know when I've been treated like shit)
2) The photos are fake are extremely outdated (not talking about a different haircut, a few extra pounds, a few years over, or a bit photoshopped)
3) False advertising of services???? I 've actually dropped this from the reasons for giving a negative review although it is extremely frustrating for the client. The reason I've dropped it is that the new favourites allow a girl to advertise both providing and not providing a service - e.g oral with condom and OWO? We all had a part in this as it was put to the vote (by Nicole's poll), so only have ourselves to blame. I also believe it is the lady's right to choose not provide an advertised favourite at any given time - even though it is soooo frustrating for the said client.
Of course if a lady does advertise and important favourite but doesn't provide it to any client not just me, that might be grounds for disatisfaction. But once a lady states she doesn't want explicit reviews, then the tick box for services disappears, so I don't really know what others have received.
So, all in all I think personally I wouldn't use this factor to determine a negative review, even though it can be very disappointing. I would however mention it in the written part of my review - what advertised services were ommited.
4) Changes if advertised fees. I'm not talking about extras for a few of the more risque favourites, but where you're told a different price at the door, from that advrtised on E-I.
I have had the odd liason that has been underwhelming but don't feel it justified a negative or grey rating. I think the absence of the click factor isn't a reason for a negative review. Overall if the lady doesn't blatantly falsely advertise and does put in the effort for service provision, I will be ticking the green button (although it may be fairly happy). I tend to elaborate more in my written review, or in my case - omit praise (as some other clients/posters have picked up).
Then again, as stated in my earlier post, there must be the freedom for the reviewer to decided this. So in relation to the review highlighted - that is his prerogative.
guitarhero
05-02-12, 04:38
Totally agree every one should be clean. Have had 2 appointments where no shower was offered. Put me off straight away