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by the Sunday World today.
Is anyone else?
by the Sunday World today.
Is anyone else?
What was in it????
probably the worst publicity TOBL and EI ever got, just buy it, far too much to explain. Not sure if it's online.
really scary stuff, talks about the convicted pimps who own the website and launched the tobl.
:(
If this website and TOBL is being run by *name removed by patricia* and co then no one should be using it.
probably the worst publicity TOBL and EI ever got, just buy it, far too much to explain. Not sure if it's online.
really scary stuff, talks about the convicted pimps who own the website and launched the tobl.
:(
If this website and TOBL is being run by *name removed by patricia* and co then no one should be using it.Mioux, this is not something you as a member since 2006 would not already have been aware of. No point getting into it here as this thread will just get deleted..
No I didn't know actually. I thought Patricia owned it. Why should the thread be deleted? Is it all true?
Did anyone read the article?
saoirsemac
28-08-11, 20:24
the sunday world is a shit rag and to call it jourlism is an insult they r nothing more than cock sucking whoremongers who sell out their own grannies for a story when u see it indo get back 2 us
This has popped upseveral times in the past, a few decent posters decided to leave this site after it was discovered but I tend to go by a persons actions now rather than in the past and it hasn't been proven he still is involved..
the sunday world is a shit rag and to call it jourlism is an insult they r nothing more than cock sucking whoremongers who sell out their own grannies for a story when u see it indo get back 2 us
Judging what anon has said there must be some truth in it,even if it is only a small bit.
did you read the article? They said he owns the website and is behind TOBL. That is sad news Anon.
You think he's had a life altering change and is now a buddhist or something?
I see that a rapist is a rapist now as much as when he raped in the past. Same for pimps. There are some things that a change or heart or personality cannot make better.
did you read the article? They said he owns the website and is behind TOBL. That is sad news Anon.
You think he's had a life altering change and is now a buddhist or something?
I see that a rapist is a rapist now as much as when he raped in the past. Same for pimps. There are some things that a change or heart or personality cannot make better.I was more talking about Patricias actions..His name no longer appears on any of the websites or companies behind them and not one paper has been able to link him to them either, not a photograph, nothing so past involement is all they have.
but what about what the SW said about him launching the TOBL? Why isn't patricia answering these questions? Why is it so secretive? I'd say since he was convicted he wanted to get away from the site as far as possible, but you can't say because he is invisible to us that he doesn't still own it. Why wouldn't he still own it?
Could somebody please pm me this name?
I know as much as anyone can know about this, the rest is just speculation and I decided to bury my head in the sand on this one, selfish maybe I know..
As for you not knowing Mioux, I don't believe you and you are just trying to dig up the past and shit stir, look back on your own posts where you even mention some of the stuff that was discussed in the past on this subject and the fall out of a few that decided to cause havoc on the site because of it, vulgar images and PM's ring any bells....
saoirsemac
28-08-11, 20:52
Judging what anon has said there must be some truth in it,even if it is only a small bit.
i dnt dispute a well know fact but i more dispute the outlandish jourlism the sunday world does, yes their a bit of truth in their articles but worth form biased and ignorant journos who only care is to shock the nation into buying their shit rag paper, their use of langauge in discribing the women in this site down to last week article about escorts excuse me desperate hookers seeing disabiled clients that was highly discrimtive towards people with disabilties and desexualised them meaning if ur in a wheel chair u shudnt have sex according to them so i just hate nd loathe that ignorant paper nd their shit slinging journos who wudnt know wat thetruth nd unbiased journlism was about
I did get some gross images sent to my inbox at one point. So did loads of people.
Whats that got to do with anything?
And as for me not knowing anything, i didn't til i read this article. I knew that this man in question was connected to In Dublin magazine, but i might be wrong about that. Maybe what you remember is that. How am i digging up the past, this was published today?!
I agree saoirse with the language used was hilarious, but also the hooker remark really pissed me off.
Why can't we know the truth? still why is it so secretive?
saoirsemac
28-08-11, 21:00
I did get some gross images sent to my inbox at one point. So did loads of people.
Whats that got to do with anything?
And as for me not knowing anything, i didn't til i read this article. I knew that this man in question was connected to In Dublin magazine, but i might be wrong about that. Maybe what you remember is that. How am i digging up the past, this was published today?!
I agree saoirse with the language used was hilarious, but also the hooker remark really pissed me off.
Why can't we know the truth? still why is it so secretive?
hey at least me nd tiff where made famous for the day lol
Could somebody please pm me this name?
Sorry - please pm me too as I'm lost...
Why isn't patricia answering these questions?
I have nothing to do with TOBL, therefore I am not going to reply to criticism of them, it's not my place to.
I think this allegation comes from the TV3 "documentary" which was re-aired two weeks ago. They had no evidence either. Besides do you know who is behind any website you use or forum you join. This site is all about cloak and dagger, you don't use your real name, you visit girls who use a false name and probably a false place of birth, you chat with guys (or girls) who you don't know. I think the point about the journalism is valid, the Sunday World are in practice anti tobl, because it suits their "Crusading" give the right wing people what they want style of journalism. I have always found it one of the great paradoxs of life that the Sunday World was the first paper in this country to feature semi naked women but now uses sex as the great seller.
yeah same with the Sun and it's Page 3 girls.
Sexism is terrible! and opposite is a girl in her knickers.
annoying.
I have nothing to do with TOBL, therefore I am not going to reply to criticism of them, it's not my place to.
but how come you can't answer about him owning the website? either used to own or currently own? According to the article he signed everything over to his partner. What's your job then, i thought YOU were the owner?
but how come you can't answer about him owning the website? either used to own or currently own? According to the article he signed everything over to his partner. What's your job then, i thought YOU were the owner?
I didn't think I needed to, but ok, I confirm he is not owner or former owner and nor am I his partner.
Invisibleman
28-08-11, 21:29
Always remember there is no smoke without fire;)
Also as Anon pointed out there was a serious debate/thread about this subject many years ago and some credible member of this site put for some clear evidence in relation to who owned the site! In doing so they got banned and removed! Not a huge thing as many had announced they would mo longer use the site as a direct result of the information catered in relation to EI and who owned it and where the revenue was actually going.
Would be very surprised if those threads/ discussions where still here as I am sure EI reck/mods/managers would have removed most if not all reference to the issue of site ownership.
The truth is there and each of you van believe what you like! Or like Anon bury your head in the sand! It comes down to each individuals morals or lack of .
Democracy or dictatorship? The truth is plain to see! If you choose to see it
Always remember there is no smoke without fire;)
Also as Anon pointed out there was a serious debate/thread about this subject many years ago and some credible member of this site put for some clear evidence in relation to who owned the site! In doing so they got banned and removed! Not a huge thing as many had announced they would mo longer use the site as a direct result of the information catered in relation to EI and who owned it and where the revenue was actually going.
Would be very surprised if those threads/ discussions where still here as I am sure EI reck/mods/managers would have removed most if not all reference to the issue of site ownership.
The truth is there and each of you van believe what you like! Or like Anon bury your head in the sand! It comes down to each individuals morals or lack of .
Democracy or dictatorship? The truth is plain to see! If you choose to see itNothing there I can dispute...
All ladies that i have been with from this site are very independent and at my age i'd know if they were being forced to do anything against their will. As far as i know independent girl's pay E.I for advertising their profile's and photo's. Other than that i don't give one continental fuck who owns the site.
All ladies that i have been with from this site are very independent and at my age i'd know if they were being forced to do anything against their will.
I think you're confusing trafficked and pimped. There is a difference. Seeing someone who isn't independent might be a bad idea, but seeing someone who is working against her will is rape.
Mioux has very strong views on the escort industry and I would largely disagree with her views I think, but she has never been stopped from posting her views here, as she is entitled to her opinion I think. But this thread seems very disingenuous on her part. Given Mioux's support of Ruhama and relationship to Ruhama, I find it hard to believe that she is genuinely 'freaked out' by a Ruhama attack on TOBL. On the contrary, I would have thought Mioux would be quite familiar the sort of information about TOBL that Ruhama is engaged in spreading to try to discredit TOBL. In any event, this thread is supposed to be about TOBL, so lets keep it on topic from now on please.
I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.
Sorry Patricia, i was posting and did not see your reply until i was finished.
Sorry Patricia, i was posting and did not see your reply until i was finished.
You're ok :) I just meant to say we'll be keeping an eye on this thread and if it turns into a thread about E-I rather than TOBL some replies may be deleted, as the topic is supposed to be TOBL here.
I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.
I think you mean that girls you see are happy, jolly and broadminded..whilst you are there. This is not proof of independence. Some girls in Ireland ARE working against their will. To state that you would know if a lady wasn't independent by her reactions is totally ignorant.
Invisibleman
28-08-11, 23:39
Mioux has very strong views on the escort industry and I would largely disagree with her views I think, but she has never been stopped from posting her views here, as she is entitled to her opinion I think. But this thread seems very disingenuous on her part. Given Mioux's support of Ruhama and relationship to Ruhama, I find it hard to believe that she is genuinely 'freaked out' by a Ruhama attack on TOBL. On the contrary, I would have thought Mioux would be quite familiar the sort of information about TOBL that Ruhama is engaged in spreading to try to discredit TOBL. In any event, this thread is supposed to be about TOBL, so lets keep it on topic from now on please.
I would dearly love to continue to discuss the "various" topics that were raised by Mioux's post, but as is clear by your choosen direction for this thread to follow the path and subject you wish it to follow I fear as happens all too often the discussion will not happen.
I do like how you pint out tht it is "disingenuous on her part" but if th s ame was said about yourself in relation to your interests i feelit wouldnt be accepted nor allowed!
TOBL is what it is and regardless of wht anyones "political" agenda is in using it to thier own advantage it still doesnt change the fact tht it cannot be discussed freely in its entire form on this thread.
I will refrain f rom mentioning any other points in the post by Mioux for the reasons I have explained and you have clearly written for all to see..... and obey!
saoirsemac
28-08-11, 23:43
I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.
sorry to pick but u know i do love to had a peep at ur reviews where i found two obvious agencies girls well id strongly believe to be anyway note https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/sabrina49-spanish-female-escort.html nd also https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/leire-spanish-female-escort.html
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Invisibleman
28-08-11, 23:50
I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.
That is avery brave statement and i feel somwht missinformed! you truly cannot belive tht you have only ever seen onyl independent... regardless oof trafficked .... but seriously! you cant honestly believe tht... even if you like to think tht to make yourself feel better. I havent even looked to see howmany you have seen in your time but at some stage or another you have seen ageny or pimped girls.... you just didt realise it! please open your eyes.
sorry to pick but u know i do love to had a peep at ur reviews where i found two obvious agencies girls well id strongly believe to be anyway note https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/sabrina49-spanish-female-escort.html nd also https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/leire-spanish-female-escort.html
:stupid:
That is avery brave statement and i feel somwht missinformed! you truly cannot belive tht you have only ever seen onyl independent... regardless oof trafficked .... but seriously! you cant honestly believe tht... even if you like to think tht to make yourself feel better. I havent even looked to see howmany you have seen in your time but at some stage or another you have seen ageny or pimped girls.... you just didt realise it! please open your eyes.I was thinking the same myself and I did look at his reviews and I got the same vide as Saoirse but with different laides.Around since '09 and must choose to stay wet behind the ears :rolleyes:
saoirsemac
28-08-11, 23:56
I was thinking the same myself and I did look at his reviews and I got the same vide as Saoirse but with different laides.Around since '09 and must choose to stay wet behind the ears :rolleyes:
great minds think alike eh;)
Going off topic folks - but, sadly, this thread seems doomed to do so as Pat does not not want to clarify things ( sadly, as it would avoid a lot of suspicion that will remain from this thread and original article). Names need not be mentioned for obvious legal reasons but factual clarification of issues raised would be helpful - both to owners and users of this site.
So, Pat?
Whether you suspect my 'motives' or whatever (and my 'relationship'(?!) with Ruhama)is beside the point.
I'm asking questions about the article about the owners of this site who have been pimps and traffickers among other horrible things.
This would apparently be true, so no wonder my integrity is being called into question to distract from the actual issue at hand.
I can't believe people know about this and are still supporting the site, and TOBL. (not sure about the involvement with TOBL though). If TOBL is being funded by a convicted pimp/trafficker, then the world really is an insane place, as i thought TOBL would be all about the individual sex workers rights, which is the opposite of pimping and trafficking.
But only a handful of the 369 people who read this thread give a fuck that the money they spend on escorts is going in large part to this man and his criminal son and partner.
Thanks for not deleting the thread though, the amount of PMs i've had saying 'can't believe it's still up' is another thing to think about'.
sperminater
29-08-11, 06:44
Ok so there's an article in the Sunday world is this paper free from the gutter ?? I didn't read the article and don't want to either.... This site is run and guided by the posters who gives a shit who runs it!!! I get great solis from the people online, I've met great friends here. If I go for a pint in the local do I care where the beer comes from? If I buy a something in a shop do I know if its stolen? When I started punting did I think that what I was doing was morally correct? We're not idiots here there's a risk in punting and to think every girl you see is completely happy in what they do and know to wonder who owns the site we are all involved in an act that is agenst the law the same way as when you break the speed limit or you don't pay you television lisence why get worried about who owns the site??? I know lots of girls here who work as escorts of there own free will and pay money to E-I and make a few bob we pay cash they receive cash this alone is against the law and then we give out people who deal on cash. If a trades man gives you a price for a job +vat or says I'll do it cheaper for cash you'll pay cash won't you so don't get a bee in your bonnet about who what why inns the site do not worry about who sam Patricia fizzes doc spermie anon etc. are it's all immaterial, it doesn't matter and never believe what's in the paper who taps your phone and sells chat up advertising and then knocks our forum it's all a load if hypothetical shite