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JAMESCORK
02-08-10, 22:31
Bollix

Im gonna have a little rant here. Below is the written rule for opting out of reviews:

Why do you allow escorts to opt out of the reviews system?

We do not feel it would be fair, to not allow escorts to opt out of the reviews system. Some escorts don't want to be reviewed online for reasons nothing to do with their being a poor service provider. For example, some like to keep how they spend their time with clients between themselves and their clients for privacy or legal reasons. Essentially, all escorts are human beings (They have friends and families etc too), surely anyone can understand how an escort might not want reviews of herself published online? If you are someone who uses escort services and you feel it is "suspicious" for an escort to not accept reviews, you do of course have the right not to see her on that basis. We believe escorts in Ireland should have the right to not be reviewed online though.

Suspicious you say… Suspicious!!!

I visited an Escort in cork recently and left a review. It was a negative review. I do NOT like leaving negative reviews. I would rather leave a positive one generally because as a result of this visit, I have had a positive and pleasurable experience, and one of which I would like to share with you fellow punters. But when I leave a negative review and she subsequently opts out I feel not only I, but we are ALL being duped here.

Now I am not doing a DeBest here, complaining that one of my reviews has been deleted, (as we all know Debest only reviews to broadcast how many lassies he has fcuked. pmsl), but I feel a certain point should at least be discussed. My review, albeit negative, was not slanderous; In fact it contained about five sentences objecting to certain advertisements on her profile. This girl had one positive review, from a first timer, and mine a negative. Should she now, on receipt of a negative, be allowed to opt out?

The review system here is second to none, and I say this in all sincerity having perused other sites. But I feel at times it lets us down. Now whereas I realize that this girl needs to do business as much as the next, but surely within the confines of fair play. If a profile is disputed by a reviewer should this profile be allowed put in ‘opt out’ status on the whim of the Escort. I’m wondering should we introduce a flag on profiles that states this profile ‘had’ allowed reviews before, but subsequently decided to opt out. This would tell a lot to potential punters considering this profile.

I had always thought that the opt out clause was to protect privacy and not to conceal deceit. I have not identified the profile in case I am being too harsh.

I welcome your views on this.

Jimbo.

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 22:36
I would agree. A review of a lady should stand, if written in a coherent manner by a reviewer.

anon361
02-08-10, 22:43
I hate it when ladies opt out as a result of a negative review, it's so deceitful but if something was put on her profile to say she used to have reviews it wouldn't be fair on the ladies that opted out for genuine reasons, I know they are few and far between but I have 2 reviews taken of my list because they opted out but 1 of them was a positive review and if memory serves me well she didn't have any negative when she opted out so there must have been another reason why she opted out, most likely personal :confused:

JAMESCORK
02-08-10, 22:47
I hate it when ladies opt out as a result of a negative review, it's so deceitful but if something was put on her profile to say she used to have reviews it wouldn't be fair on the ladies that opted out for genuine reasons, I know they are few and far between but I have 2 reviews taken of my list because they opted out but 1 of them was a positive review and if memory serves me well she didn't have any negative when she opted out so there must have been another reason why she opted out, most likely personal :confused:

That is no prob buddy. If she has had all positives mainly and decides to opt out....hey that’s her prerogative. But when yours is the first negatory and all of a sudden we opt out….deceit

anon361
02-08-10, 22:53
The fairest option to keep both sides happy would be to have it periodic, a lady can only opt in and out at certain times, say monthly, that way at least a negative review will be on her profile for a while and not disappear the next day..

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 22:53
How about if the reviewing process was tightened up, Ie you could only leave a review if you had actually seen the girl, and within a couple of days after only, and then all reviews must stand, good or bad? After acceptable moderation of course..no opting out allowed. Just a thought..

oops, I should also say that the lady should always be allowed to have all reviews removed though if for a personal reason.

JAMESCORK
02-08-10, 23:02
How about if the reviewing process was tightened up, Ie you could only leave a review if you had actually seen the girl, and within a couple of days after only, and then all reviews must stand, good or bad? After acceptable moderation of course..no opting out allowed. Just a thought..

oops, I should also say that the lady should always be allowed to have all reviews removed though if for a personal reason.

Jeeze Lucy I think you will find that the review system does just that. You can only review if you have seen, and you are allowed up to 3 months to review. But I maintain a bad review should be at least be noted somehow. When I read a profle I read the bads BEFORE I read the good, regardless of the reviewer.

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 23:14
Really? You do suprise me as I have read reviews that say things like...'twas last year, in cork' etc also this ratty thing what the hell is the point of a picture of a mouse? Pull the review if it is dodgy. Also, if you can only review if seen, how come so many rebuttals start with I wasn't even in the location..Nope, I am not convinced the reviews system does that. It seems to me I could leave a review for myself tomorrow, and so could anyone else.

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 23:18
In fairness, the escorts pay to advertise here, so are entitled to some control over their image. If you are trying to establish yourself, a negative review is going to cost you business, especially if you don't have so many reviews already. A lady with few reviews probably has fewer clients. A poor review from yourself, with a badge, has got to hurt a lot more. The first thing you read is the bad reviews.

I see where you are coming from, and I have had the exact same experience myself, a lady with two reviews one good, one bad and is now not accepting reviews any more. I didn't leave a bad review, but didn't because she was younger and less experienced.

I agree entirely on one level, but just like a restaurant, if you open yourself to the public then you must expect the public to comment. You cannot have a advice/punting forum where you aren't allowed to speak openly, surely?

El Gordo
02-08-10, 23:22
No one is forcing anyone to see any escort who has opted out of the reviews system.

luther
02-08-10, 23:23
Jeeze Lucy I think you will find that the review system does just that. You can only review if you have seen

Sorry Jim, but this is not quite true. The first option when leaving a review when you come to the "Booking Outcome" section states "Made a booking, but did not meet escort"...............

debest
02-08-10, 23:27
Why would you see a girl who doesn't allow reviews? If you do then you deserved to be mugged off.

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 23:29
Nope, then you are discounting curiosity..which in my opinion males have a abundance of.

luther
02-08-10, 23:38
Why would you see a girl who doesn't allow reviews?

Lack of choice and transport perhaps..........

Roscommon Escorts, the Escort Ireland guide to Roscommon Independent Escorts, Roscommon Touring Escorts and Roscommon Escort Agencies (https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/roscommon-escorts.html)

debest
02-08-10, 23:40
Lack of choice and transport perhaps..........

Roscommon Escorts, the Escort Ireland guide to Roscommon Independent Escorts, Roscommon Touring Escorts and Roscommon Escort Agencies (https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/roscommon-escorts.html)

But they'll probably see her anyway even if she had a 100 bad reviews.

debest
02-08-10, 23:41
Nope, then you are discounting curiosity..which in my opinion males have a abundance of.

Are you being serious Lucy?

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 23:46
LOL, refer to your previous post chick. Of course I am being serious. I could say to you tomorrow that hottie honey looked like hell and had a attitude to match..would you take me at my word? Or would you look at the pic and wonder?

aml
02-08-10, 23:53
Bollix

Im gonna have a little rant here. Below is the written rule for opting out of reviews:

Why do you allow escorts to opt out of the reviews system?

We do not feel it would be fair, to not allow escorts to opt out of the reviews system. Some escorts don't want to be reviewed online for reasons nothing to do with their being a poor service provider. For example, some like to keep how they spend their time with clients between themselves and their clients for privacy or legal reasons. Essentially, all escorts are human beings (They have friends and families etc too), surely anyone can understand how an escort might not want reviews of herself published online? If you are someone who uses escort services and you feel it is "suspicious" for an escort to not accept reviews, you do of course have the right not to see her on that basis. We believe escorts in Ireland should have the right to not be reviewed online though.

Suspicious you say… Suspicious!!!

I visited an Escort in cork recently and left a review. It was a negative review. I do NOT like leaving negative reviews. I would rather leave a positive one generally because as a result of this visit, I have had a positive and pleasurable experience, and one of which I would like to share with you fellow punters. But when I leave a negative review and she subsequently opts out I feel not only I, but we are ALL being duped here.

Now I am not doing a DeBest here, complaining that one of my reviews has been deleted, (as we all know Debest only reviews to broadcast how many lassies he has fcuked. pmsl), but I feel a certain point should at least be discussed. My review, albeit negative, was not slanderous; In fact it contained about five sentences objecting to certain advertisements on her profile. This girl had one positive review, from a first timer, and mine a negative. Should she now, on receipt of a negative, be allowed to opt out?

The review system here is second to none, and I say this in all sincerity having perused other sites. But I feel at times it lets us down. Now whereas I realize that this girl needs to do business as much as the next, but surely within the confines of fair play. If a profile is disputed by a reviewer should this profile be allowed put in ‘opt out’ status on the whim of the Escort. I’m wondering should we introduce a flag on profiles that states this profile ‘had’ allowed reviews before, but subsequently decided to opt out. This would tell a lot to potential punters considering this profile.

I had always thought that the opt out clause was to protect privacy and not to conceal deceit. I have not identified the profile in case I am being too harsh.

I welcome your views on this.

Jimbo.

I really hate this too,agencies are notorious for allowing negative reviews to be deleted.I had left an negative review before but i checked later and the lady in question no longer allowed reviews.It was my own fault most of her reviews were ratted and i should have known better.If i write a review i prefer to give an honest account of the experience and and as much as i want to leave a positive review i could not do it.I was giving an honest account of my experince and i could not blatantly tell a lie encouraging another person making the same mistaske i did.

debest
03-08-10, 00:01
LOL, refer to your previous post chick. Of course I am being serious. I could say to you tomorrow that hottie honey looked like hell and had a attitude to match..would you take me at my word? Or would you look at the pic and wonder?

Ya...I'd take your word for it. Why wouldn't I sure??

If a profile pics are smoking hot but they've opted out of reviews then 99% of the time they are fake. The voices in my head are calling that fact but they have been wrong before.

Bottom line, if you see an escort who doesn't allow reviews and you get ripped off. Don't come looking for sympathy.

Word

JAMESCORK
03-08-10, 00:22
Sorry Jim, but this is not quite true. The first option when leaving a review when you come to the "Booking Outcome" section states "Made a booking, but did not meet escort"...............

Yeah Yeah Yeah guys we are not talking about the lottery of meeting a girl with no reviews. Im talking about visiting a girl that did, and having left a negative decided to opt out.

Now we all look at glossies of opt out girls and wonder, is this a legit I want my privacy but I’m a lasher anyway, or is this I have opted cos I’m a minger and am afraid of more bad reviews.

I spent my money and time to discover that a profile is not quite as it should be, and after reporting on same, my review, for the benfit of punter kind, is now deleted. Is this fair play….

An don
03-08-10, 12:12
What if an escort opts out of review system something could be put on her profile like

4 positives reviews
4 negatives reviews

The text of reviews would not have to be visible to clients. At least then the clients would be happy and the escorts that opt out for personal reasons would also be happy. Maybe this an idea to be looked into.

Sexy Sandy 69
03-08-10, 15:33
I opted out of reviews for personal reasons for about a year but due to the amount of posts about non reviewed girls I decided to allow reviews again, when I notified EI, all my reviews were re-instated, every single one of them, so I think if this girl were to opt back in, all her reviews would be put back up, positive & negative, I may be wrong.

Sandy of Newcastle x

Sensual Delights
03-08-10, 16:20
I opted out of reviews for personal reasons for about a year but due to the amount of posts about non reviewed girls I decided to allow reviews again, when I notified EI, all my reviews were re-instated, every single one of them, so I think if this girl were to opt back in, all her reviews would be put back up, positive & negative, I may be wrong.

Sandy of Newcastle x

No Sandy, you are right.
All the reviews would be back as they once were once the escort opt in the review system again.
After that, some reviews can be removed only if they are duplicate reviews left by the same reviewer.

Sensual Delights
03-08-10, 16:24
What if an escort opts out of review system something could be put on her profile like

4 positives reviews
4 negatives reviews

The text of reviews would not have to be visible to clients. At least then the clients would be happy and the escorts that opt out for personal reasons would also be happy. Maybe this an idea to be looked into.

I find this a very very good idea. Escorts who value their privacy won't mind this as no texts would be available to read.
Clients would make up their mind if they want to take a chance based as well on this figures.

Ratted reviews should obviously not be taken into account in this count.

luther
03-08-10, 19:05
I decided to allow reviews again, when I notified EI, all my reviews were re-instated, every single one of them, so I think if this girl were to opt back in, all her reviews would be put back up, positive & negative, I may be wrong.

Sandy of Newcastle x

You're right Sandy but is that not the way is should be, that all reviews should go back up???

Would you or anyone else suggest anything different???

Personally I think that's the way it should be..........

trueblood77
07-08-10, 11:32
I agree.There are far too many cases of escorts opting out after a negative review,especially if genuine.

If they opt out ,it should only be for future reviews and the system should show earlier ones

Westsidex
07-08-10, 13:37
Bollix

Im gonna have a little rant here. Below is the written rule for opting out of reviews:

Why do you allow escorts to opt out of the reviews system?

We do not feel it would be fair, to not allow escorts to opt out of the reviews system. Some escorts don't want to be reviewed online for reasons nothing to do with their being a poor service provider. For example, some like to keep how they spend their time with clients between themselves and their clients for privacy or legal reasons. Essentially, all escorts are human beings (They have friends and families etc too), surely anyone can understand how an escort might not want reviews of herself published online? If you are someone who uses escort services and you feel it is "suspicious" for an escort to not accept reviews, you do of course have the right not to see her on that basis. We believe escorts in Ireland should have the right to not be reviewed online though.

Suspicious you say… Suspicious!!!

I visited an Escort in cork recently and left a review. It was a negative review. I do NOT like leaving negative reviews. I would rather leave a positive one generally because as a result of this visit, I have had a positive and pleasurable experience, and one of which I would like to share with you fellow punters. But when I leave a negative review and she subsequently opts out I feel not only I, but we are ALL being duped here.

Now I am not doing a DeBest here, complaining that one of my reviews has been deleted, (as we all know Debest only reviews to broadcast how many lassies he has fcuked. pmsl), but I feel a certain point should at least be discussed. My review, albeit negative, was not slanderous; In fact it contained about five sentences objecting to certain advertisements on her profile. This girl had one positive review, from a first timer, and mine a negative. Should she now, on receipt of a negative, be allowed to opt out?

The review system here is second to none, and I say this in all sincerity having perused other sites. But I feel at times it lets us down. Now whereas I realize that this girl needs to do business as much as the next, but surely within the confines of fair play. If a profile is disputed by a reviewer should this profile be allowed put in ‘opt out’ status on the whim of the Escort. I’m wondering should we introduce a flag on profiles that states this profile ‘had’ allowed reviews before, but subsequently decided to opt out. This would tell a lot to potential punters considering this profile.

I had always thought that the opt out clause was to protect privacy and not to conceal deceit. I have not identified the profile in case I am being too harsh.

I welcome your views on this.

Jimbo.

I cant see anything suspicious about it anymore than some girls prefer not to have explicit details put on a review. Sure you are bound to have those that will deliberately opt out.

When you look at it those escorts that mat want to opt out for other reasons other than deceit ,if they hadnt the choice to opt out, would go elsewhere.

Its like some girls put their faces on profiles and others dont. You have to be fair here. Its not the guys who are being described, or being shown, its the girls and the only way to be fair is to allow them the choice.

Its not like they have a huge choice as it is and i cant see how narrowing down the remaning choices would help ot change anything.

Those escorts opting out for deceit would find a way somehow.

Westside.

ber
07-08-10, 23:00
I cant see anything suspicious about it anymore than some girls prefer not to have explicit details put on a review. Sure you are bound to have those that will deliberately opt out.

When you look at it those escorts that mat want to opt out for other reasons other than deceit ,if they hadnt the choice to opt out, would go elsewhere.

Its like some girls put their faces on profiles and others dont. You have to be fair here. Its not the guys who are being described, or being shown, its the girls and the only way to be fair is to allow them the choice.

Its not like they have a huge choice as it is and i cant see how narrowing down the remaning choices would help ot change anything.

Those escorts opting out for deceit would find a way somehow.

Westside.

Well i think the issue here really is not a girl deciding she wont have reviews but the ones that opt out
after getting a bad review or a few bad ones

Lucy Chambers
07-08-10, 23:48
Its maybe time for ladies to stop hiding behind that particular system. I realise that may not be a popular view, but its far too open to abuse as it stands.

Westsidex
08-08-10, 08:13
Well i think the issue here really is not a girl deciding she wont have reviews but the ones that opt out
after getting a bad review or a few bad ones

I know that but i was elaborating on the fact that the system itself isnt at fault here.

Westside.

JAMESCORK
08-08-10, 22:42
I cant see anything suspicious about it anymore than some girls prefer not to have explicit details put on a review. Sure you are bound to have those that will deliberately opt out.

When you look at it those escorts that mat want to opt out for other reasons other than deceit ,if they hadnt the choice to opt out, would go elsewhere.

Its like some girls put their faces on profiles and others dont. You have to be fair here. Its not the guys who are being described, or being shown, its the girls and the only way to be fair is to allow them the choice.

Its not like they have a huge choice as it is and i cant see how narrowing down the remaning choices would help ot change anything.

Those escorts opting out for deceit would find a way somehow.

Westside.

Jeeze Westie, either you are totally missing the point here or you are talking a little bit of shite. Nobody is denying the girls the choice to opt out INITIALLY if they have their reasons to do so. And yeah we all know it is not us being described or shown, we are not advertising services for monetary gain here, they are. My argument is those that start advertising a profile allowing reviews, but as soon as a negative arrives they opt out. If this is allowed then ‘the system’ is wrong. If a review is negative and we have nothing to hide, run with it, hoping the next is positive, and continue doing business. But if straight away we opt out, are we admitting our profile is untrustworthy and are we hiding something. This is the real issue and your system is wrong, Westie. We have had little or no feedback from ‘staff’ on this.

An don
08-08-10, 23:15
fact that the system itself isnt at fault here.

Westside.

Its the system im afraid lets the escorts opt out once they have recieved a bad review