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punterminator
01-08-10, 22:03
I really dunno why I'm posting this, I'm aware my opinion is probably about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit and as with anything inciteful that ever lands here it will gradually be bumped down by the children's latest "look at me look at me. me me me" thread. However, for what it's worth and in the interests of posterity if nothing else, here it is.

So, I spent an interesting day on EI today. I, as is my wont from time to time on a lazy hangover shrouded Sunday, typed my handle into the forum search box and spent a few hours reading old threads I was involved in from "back in the day". The heady days before Westside (Mark I) started self-medicating and could occasionally stumple upon a coherent sentence. The two of us actually had quite a fun reparte going where I would say something pithy and dry to him, often in response to his weekly "right I'm off" thread and he would take a collection of words he found somewhere and throw them at the screen and whatever stuck would be his response. Heady days indeed!

Now, I have never been the most prolific of posters here. I have many interests both real and virtual of which escorting is only one and I have other outlets to exercise those other interests. I realise that others don't and that this site is their virtual-hub and that's cool too, I would suggest unhealthy perhaps but who am I to judge.

It was quite interesting though to watch the evolution of this site from the early days when the "other site" was actually a contender. I unearthed a few threads where I vehemently defended Patricia (and her sidekick Sarah) from attacks by wind up merchants (Link: example (https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/general-chat/9475-patricia-smells-rat.html#post24929)) simply because this was a time that Patricia would genuinely engage with the community. Get involved in discussions and listen to feedback from us (let's not forget, we are ultimately the revenue source for this entire operation).

But then the sadness kicked in as I saw this engagement change to a dismissal and eventually just a complete disengagement (Link: case in point, 3 years on and nada) (https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/general-chat/9518-fao-admin-right-click-profiles.html)

Along with some seriously questionable decisions, complete inaction over the agency/independent issue culminating in the utter debacle that was the community mods decision (I mean you take a textbook case of Aspergers syndrome (with, I suspect a few other diagnosed conditions) along with a textbook case of OCD and proven faker of IMs and make them responsible for the content of the boards? The mind boggles.

Looking over that period you can pinpoint with microscopic precision the slide from useful, lively and inciteful escort focused hub to the bum-slapping-circle-jerking-brown-nosing nausea fest it is today. Reading posts from this period it is amazing the amount of Posts showing up with "Banned User" under their name as the mods flexed their new muscles and gloried in their new powers. Gods among men, masters of all they surveyed. Completely arbitrary decimation of threads because some mod took umbrage with some content which we were never privy to. Questions dismissed with a "It's not up for discussion". Threads that would once have gone box office were left to wither and die as the erudite and inciteful posters who would normally fuel these had been banned (ninebythree) or just given up (mailman). I missed all this as I had lost interest in the place but if anyone has actually read down this far and would care to give me the synopsis of this incident I would be grateful (the whos the whys the hows, I really can't fathom why he would be banned, did he hurt QPH's feelings?)).

Anyway, I had a lot more to say but I don't think I will. Rather I'll just sit back and watch the tumbleweeds blow in and take root in that rarest of rare thing, a post made with a bit of thought and effort. Shed a tear as it sinks further and further into database obscurity as the latest 100 page behemoth keepy-uppy cringe-fest thread that the schoolyard has decided is the next craze. What's your favourite Pokemon perhaps? I had a thought today, and tried to quantify the improvement in content and quality here if you were to take a thread like "The last person to post wins" or "Drop one keep one" and then, anyone who posted after, let's say, page 3 of the thread was perma-banned never to return (or given their own sandboxed forum - let's call it "The Kindergarden"). It's an interesting thought I think...

As I said, I was never the most prolific poster here, but I've been here a while, longer than most, shorter than some and these are my musings on the evolution of the board and my sadness at an opportunity missed.

Over and out..
Content in the knowledge that at the very least, I hold a majority of one and, although it is a blindingly obvious rookie mistake to give the children the keys to the school, somewhat proud that regardless of whether I'm right or wrong, I said that this would come to pass and it has.

Just one last addendum. This is all aimed at the forum. Let the record state that the site itself (despite the fact that her "tech" team appeared to have learned web dev from Westie's stupider uglier brother) is in my opinion world class. Patricia has done a great job here, yes there are a lot of trivial errors, lazy coding and glaring inconsistencies which she obviously has no interest in addressing, but still, for it's domain audience this site is up there with the best. I hope you realise this paragraph comes from two of my passions, software architecture and beautiful women. I'm not trying to insult anyone it just pains me to see all the cracks in what should be a beautiful marriage..

Lucy Chambers
02-08-10, 11:06
Bloody hell. Well said you.

punterminator
02-08-10, 15:11
Bloody hell. Well said you.Why thank you Lucy!

debest
02-08-10, 17:04
I read over some old threads and there damn entertaining. Half the threads back then would be deleted or locked before they got the chance to get going if they were started now. I've lost count of how many threads I've started or being heavily involved in that got deleted or locked.

Anyway....why didn't you post this in general? Didn't like the potential answers?

debest
02-08-10, 17:07
For Christ sake!! I got logged out and must of fucked my copy and paste. No way I'm writing all that again!

punterminator
03-08-10, 13:41
I read over some old threads and there damn entertaining. Half the threads back then would be deleted or locked before they got the chance to get going if they were started now.Aint that the truth. It's like the fire is gone from the boards.


Anyway....why didn't you post this in general? Didn't like the potential answers?It never really struck me, I just thought that this was the most on-topic board for it. I've never been scared of reading answers I don't like, if I was I would have applied for mod status all those years ago.

An don
03-08-10, 17:38
good post i enjoyed reading it

debest
03-08-10, 21:54
Aint that the truth. It's like the fire is gone from the boards.

The part of my post which was missing was about when NBT and those boys got banned. I started reading the forum around then and I even noticed a difference after that. I mean Pat's attitude towards the forum must have changed after posters are accusing her of being a criminal (rightly or wrongly I don't know). We can blame the mods but it's Pat that decides how things are run and it's up to her to reign the mods in if she feels there being too strict or otherwise. But she doesn't because that's how she wants it. I don't think things will change under the new managers either but who knows.

I don't know what the forum was like before that, if the forum was being diluted already. Maybe you can shed some light?

[QUOTE=It never really struck me, I just thought that this was the most on-topic board for it. I've never been scared of reading answers I don't like, if I was I would have applied for mod status all those years ago.[/QUOTE]

Well I thought you might be worried about it turning into a cat and dog thread or me winding up Westie or JamesCork to the max thread. I'm sure Anon is very relieved that he doesn't have another competitor for his modship hopes.

JohnRambo
06-08-10, 23:09
punterminator mate, did it ever dawn on you that we as mods only carry-out what we are told to do? We don’t make up the rules, you have to go higher up the chain of command to complain when and why a thread was closed. There is a strict set of guide lines in place that states when we are to close a thread or ban a user, we didn’t make that up higher up people did. I don’t know what you expect of us sometimes punterminator really I don’t.

ber
08-08-10, 20:56
punterminator mate, did it ever dawn on you that we as mods only carry-out what we are told to do? We don’t make up the rules, you have to go higher up the chain of command to complain when and why a thread was closed. There is a strict set of guide lines in place that states when we are to close a thread or ban a user, we didn’t make that up higher up people did. I don’t know what you expect of us sometimes punterminator really I don’t.

CONSISTENCY:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Lucy Chambers
08-08-10, 21:39
CONSISTENCY:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

But if the leadership isn't consistent, how can the moderation be?

ber
08-08-10, 22:28
But if the leadership isn't consistent, how can the moderation be?

Well he claims they have a set of rules to work off, so everybody seems to be interpretting them differently

Lucy Chambers
08-08-10, 23:20
No 'he' didn't grumps. He said that some things have to go to a management decision. Anyway, look, chill. John was only trying to be straight with you..

JohnRambo
09-08-10, 00:50
No 'he' didn't grumps. He said that some things have to go to a management decision. Anyway, look, chill. John was only trying to be straight with you..

Thanks Lucy bit its water off a ducks back, since I’ve started working for E-I and we mods get stick I try not to take it to heart, its not a personal attack at me its “John Rambo” that’s getting it in the neck, I try to ignore.

luther
09-08-10, 00:54
Thanks Lucy bit its water off a ducks back, since I’ve started working for E-I and we mods get stick I try not to take it to heart, its not a personal attack at me its “John Rambo” that’s getting it in the neck, I try to ignore.

That's a good way to look at it John. You'll learn more and more as you go along..........

Keep up the good work. It's not as easy as people think it is, I just made look that way.............:D

An don
09-08-10, 01:09
. It's not as easy as people think it is, I just made look that way.............:D

I dont think Ber was having a go , i think he was saying that there was no consistency. In fairness in a week this site has 2 very good helpers and i dont mean this as disrepect to anyone but of whats left carlos is barely posting . doozer is only posting he pro man u views(which i love) nobody seems to know the qph story except pat and shes stump on it. People dont like change and maybe they had got comfortable with the status quo

Lucy Chambers
09-08-10, 01:23
Yes, maybe they did. But perhaps its a happier life if you can hand the shit to someone that is actually being paid to do it and then say what you really think? Who knows. Over the past two weeks the quality of posting has increased greatly, and the site seems coherent.

luther
09-08-10, 01:29
People dont like change and maybe they had got comfortable with the status quo

No An Don, I don't think that's it...........:lmao:

I wouldn't use the word comfortable to describe how some people felt about even the existance of mods here, and I'm fairly sure that they're not upset about some of them leaving.........

This is not directed at Ber by the way. Ber I know you weren't having a go. I know what you're talking about and what you're looking for and I understand..........

ber
09-08-10, 10:27
No 'he' didn't grumps. He said that some things have to go to a management decision. Anyway, look, chill. John was only trying to be straight with you..

That is not what he said read the post again. He said the rules are in place that they were created by management.
I never disputed the rules, but what i have an issue with is that they are not applied consistently.


Always look before u leap

Ure's sincerly
Grumps

CrackShotJack
17-08-10, 09:48
I really dunno why I'm posting this, I'm aware my opinion is probably about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit and as with anything inciteful that ever lands here it will gradually be bumped down by the children's latest "look at me look at me. me me me" thread. However, for what it's worth and in the interests of posterity if nothing else, here it is.

So, I spent an interesting day on EI today. I, as is my wont from time to time on a lazy hangover shrouded Sunday, typed my handle into the forum search box and spent a few hours reading old threads I was involved in from "back in the day". The heady days before Westside (Mark I) started self-medicating and could occasionally stumple upon a coherent sentence. The two of us actually had quite a fun reparte going where I would say something pithy and dry to him, often in response to his weekly "right I'm off" thread and he would take a collection of words he found somewhere and throw them at the screen and whatever stuck would be his response. Heady days indeed!

Now, I have never been the most prolific of posters here. I have many interests both real and virtual of which escorting is only one and I have other outlets to exercise those other interests. I realise that others don't and that this site is their virtual-hub and that's cool too, I would suggest unhealthy perhaps but who am I to judge.

It was quite interesting though to watch the evolution of this site from the early days when the "other site" was actually a contender. I unearthed a few threads where I vehemently defended Patricia (and her sidekick Sarah) from attacks by wind up merchants (Link: example (https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/general-chat/9475-patricia-smells-rat.html#post24929)) simply because this was a time that Patricia would genuinely engage with the community. Get involved in discussions and listen to feedback from us (let's not forget, we are ultimately the revenue source for this entire operation).

But then the sadness kicked in as I saw this engagement change to a dismissal and eventually just a complete disengagement (Link: case in point, 3 years on and nada) (https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/general-chat/9518-fao-admin-right-click-profiles.html)

Along with some seriously questionable decisions, complete inaction over the agency/independent issue culminating in the utter debacle that was the community mods decision (I mean you take a textbook case of Aspergers syndrome (with, I suspect a few other diagnosed conditions) along with a textbook case of OCD and proven faker of IMs and make them responsible for the content of the boards? The mind boggles.

Looking over that period you can pinpoint with microscopic precision the slide from useful, lively and inciteful escort focused hub to the bum-slapping-circle-jerking-brown-nosing nausea fest it is today. Reading posts from this period it is amazing the amount of Posts showing up with "Banned User" under their name as the mods flexed their new muscles and gloried in their new powers. Gods among men, masters of all they surveyed. Completely arbitrary decimation of threads because some mod took umbrage with some content which we were never privy to. Questions dismissed with a "It's not up for discussion". Threads that would once have gone box office were left to wither and die as the erudite and inciteful posters who would normally fuel these had been banned (ninebythree) or just given up (mailman). I missed all this as I had lost interest in the place but if anyone has actually read down this far and would care to give me the synopsis of this incident I would be grateful (the whos the whys the hows, I really can't fathom why he would be banned, did he hurt QPH's feelings?)).

Anyway, I had a lot more to say but I don't think I will. Rather I'll just sit back and watch the tumbleweeds blow in and take root in that rarest of rare thing, a post made with a bit of thought and effort. Shed a tear as it sinks further and further into database obscurity as the latest 100 page behemoth keepy-uppy cringe-fest thread that the schoolyard has decided is the next craze. What's your favourite Pokemon perhaps? I had a thought today, and tried to quantify the improvement in content and quality here if you were to take a thread like "The last person to post wins" or "Drop one keep one" and then, anyone who posted after, let's say, page 3 of the thread was perma-banned never to return (or given their own sandboxed forum - let's call it "The Kindergarden"). It's an interesting thought I think...

As I said, I was never the most prolific poster here, but I've been here a while, longer than most, shorter than some and these are my musings on the evolution of the board and my sadness at an opportunity missed.

Over and out..
Content in the knowledge that at the very least, I hold a majority of one and, although it is a blindingly obvious rookie mistake to give the children the keys to the school, somewhat proud that regardless of whether I'm right or wrong, I said that this would come to pass and it has.

Just one last addendum. This is all aimed at the forum. Let the record state that the site itself (despite the fact that her "tech" team appeared to have learned web dev from Westie's stupider uglier brother) is in my opinion world class. Patricia has done a great job here, yes there are a lot of trivial errors, lazy coding and glaring inconsistencies which she obviously has no interest in addressing, but still, for it's domain audience this site is up there with the best. I hope you realise this paragraph comes from two of my passions, software architecture and beautiful women. I'm not trying to insult anyone it just pains me to see all the cracks in what should be a beautiful marriage..

easily the most constructive post I have read on this entire site. Perfectly written with arguments to back up your points. Fair play.

punterminator
20-08-10, 16:17
easily the most constructive post I have read on this entire site. Perfectly written with arguments to back up your points. Fair play.Cheers mate... Nice to hear...