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adogwithabone
18-02-10, 16:35
I have difficulty getting my head around the concept that escorts are allowed to advertise whatever they want and post any pictures that they feel like and we are not allowed to comment except through this forum, if the escort opts out of reviews. I cannot understand why reviews are not mandatory at least in relation to the profile/photos. We are usually fed the line that for 'legal' reasons escorts cannot be forced to allow reviews but I think that this is a load of bovine manure at least in so far as it might restrict reporting on false advertising. I cannot see that there could be any legal reason why E-I should be forced to advertise escorts who do not allow reporting on the truth of said advertisements.
I think that, at the very least, any escort, wishing to advertise on this website, should have to allow comments(if you do not like the 'review' word) on the accuracy of their photos and profiles
I see your point and agree with it.
But I think it's a simple truth that he who pays the piper calls the tune.
The punters are always going to be at the bottom of the priority list.
oneeyedreilly
19-02-10, 09:59
I see your point and agree with it.
But I think it's a simple truth that he who pays the piper calls the tune.
The punters are always going to be at the bottom of the priority list.
Have to agree with that. In an ideal world, no reviews allowed, no ad accepted but.......!
I don't think legally we could force escorts to accept reviews. But we could refuse to advertise them unless they allow reviews. However I wouldn't do that as I don't think it would be right.
I think you are seeing everything from the client's perspective here. I try to see things from both. I don't think it is fair to force any escort to take reviews. It's not just dodgy escorts who don't accept reviews. I know many escorts don't accept reviews because they've had problems with dodgy clients leaving them bad reviews to mess their business up or they are just trying to maintain more privacy than reviews allow for. Of course we are trying to stop the dodgy clients that ruin the reviews system by leaving fake reviews, but it is hard, in most cases we have no evidence either way as to who may be telling truth.
Essentially I think this business has to show the respect to escorts of giving them the power as to whether or not they want to be reviewed. Escorts that don't accept reviews already probably get less business because of that. I wouldn't be happy going the whole hog and making it impossible for them to advertise.
Pat x
carlos marvado
19-02-10, 10:21
I think escorts should be able to decide whether or not to accept reviews and I think if client's stopped frequenting escorts who don't allow reviews, then it might assist them to re-assess their decision.
brandylove
19-02-10, 12:55
I think that, at the very least, any escort, wishing to advertise on this website, should have to allow comments(if you do not like the 'review' word) on the accuracy of their photos and profiles
hi hun
i think thats a great idea too
xxx
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If they don't allow reviews, it seems the pics are always pretty much fake anyway.
Although there are a lot of fake pics anyway.
If they don't allow reviews, it seems the pics are always pretty much fake anyway.
Although there are a lot of fake pics anyway.
Not necessarily I have visited about 3, and 2 of those were actually the girl in the photos. But it is a lottery. I actually had my best experience with the girl that was not the girl in the pics. But I always try the line “if you are not the girl in the photos I’m leaving”. Depending how they respond to this I make my judgement. I’ve been lucky 2 out of 3 so far.
nicegirlsarenice
20-02-10, 02:20
Let's say you don't like blonde girls. Are you going to say: "I can't get my head around the fact that blonde girls are allowed to advertise on the site"?
No of course not. Why? Because other punters do want to see them. Well obviously other punters want to see these girls are well.
It's like they're playing the lottory, both the escorts and the clients that go to them. Pretend their picture says "lottory" over it. You're saying: "No, I want to see all the cards up front. They're shouldn't be allowed to play the lottory, how dare they. I'm potentially missing cards that I might otherwise have been able to see now".
You can try playing the lottory or you don't have to. It's possible some of it is agencies trying to offload poor-looking or performing girls, they still have to put some golden tickets in there or the lottory-playing punters wouldn't do it.
Let's say you don't like blonde girls. Are you going to say: "I can't get my head around the fact that blonde girls are allowed to advertise on the site"?
No of course not. Why? Because other punters do want to see them. Well obviously other punters want to see these girls are well.
It's like they're playing the lottory, both the escorts and the clients that go to them. Pretend their picture says "lottory" over it. You're saying: "No, I want to see all the cards up front. They're shouldn't be allowed to play the lottory, how dare they. I'm potentially missing cards that I might otherwise have been able to see now".
You can try playing the lottory or you don't have to. It's possible some of it is agencies trying to offload poor-looking or performing girls, they still have to put some golden tickets in there or the lottory-playing punters wouldn't do it.
I don't see how you can compare a site where services are offered to the lottery, a gamble, pure chance. People use this site to see what's available that meets their needs looks and service wise within their budget. Not to be demeaning but that means it's like looking at the Argos website, or Curry's. Would you be happy if you ordered a 50" wide-screen HD Ready 3D telly on the Curry's website, were told to come pick it up and you found a 10" black and white portable waiting for you, but they still expected you to collect and pay the same price regardless?
This site boils down to a place to advertise a service for a price, if the service isn't what was advertised, it can be frustrating to find that you cannot voice your disappointment. If there weren't those out there that would deliberately post negative reviews to ruin the business of others, if every review could be trusted then it would be in the sites and honest girls interest to insist on reviews, but that's not the case. As clients we have a choice, to visit or ignore those that don't allow them. Nobody can tell you what to do, but you have a choice, mine is that if there are no reviews allowed, I won't go.
No verified photo's - be wary
Zero Reviews - be wary
No Reviews allowed - no visit
You make your own choice and if you ignore the signs, ultimately the site isn't responsible for how you spend your money, you are.
adogwithabone
20-02-10, 11:35
I don't think legally we could force escorts to accept reviews. But we could refuse to advertise them unless they allow reviews. However I wouldn't do that as I don't think it would be right.
I think you are seeing everything from the client's perspective here. I try to see things from both. I don't think it is fair to force any escort to take reviews. It's not just dodgy escorts who don't accept reviews. I know many escorts don't accept reviews because they've had problems with dodgy clients leaving them bad reviews to mess their business up or they are just trying to maintain more privacy than reviews allow for. Of course we are trying to stop the dodgy clients that ruin the reviews system by leaving fake reviews, but it is hard, in most cases we have no evidence either way as to who may be telling truth.
Essentially I think this business has to show the respect to escorts of giving them the power as to whether or not they want to be reviewed. Escorts that don't accept reviews already probably get less business because of that. I wouldn't be happy going the whole hog and making it impossible for them to advertise.
Pat x
Whatever else you are, Patricia, you are not stupid, so cut the c**p about the problem being 'dodgy clints' leaving fake reviews. Even the dogs in the streets know that it is the escorts and their pimps that are to blame for more than 95% of fake reviews. If there is the odd malicious review, I think that it always stands out as such.
All I am asking for is a single drop-down, very satisfied-very dissatisfied, button to the question 'Are the photos/profile genuine'. There would be no scope for text or elaboration. I cannot see that any escorts could object to this, unless they are fake, and I assume that you are not deliberately promoting fake profiles.
All I am asking for is a single drop-down, very satisfied-very dissatisfied, button to the question 'Are the photos/profile genuine'. There would be no scope for text or elaboration. I cannot see that any escorts could object to this, unless they are fake, and I assume that you are not deliberately promoting fake profiles.
Do you mean just this singular function should be added to the profile page of a girl who doesn't allow reviews???
And if that's the case, what's to stop this function being abused??? With no review attached to it and no accountability people could be clicking it willy nilly................
Isn't the easiest thing to do, if you feel so strongly about this,
would just be to not visit escorts who don't allow reviews, and just visit ones who do allow reviews?? has that maybe crossed your mind?
It's their own business and choice if they want them or not. It's DEFINITELY a privacy matter and I would love to see some of you clients as escorts just to feel the vulnerability they feel sometimes.
If they feel like not having reviews makes them feel safer, then so be it, they're not asking for your judgement or probably giving a fuck what you think. I certainly wouldn't, anyway.
Stop behaving as though you have a right to these things, you don't.
adogwithabone, I am not rejecting your suggestion made here, in fact I think it is quite a good one.
However this comment:
Whatever else you are, Patricia, you are not stupid, so cut the c**p about the problem being 'dodgy clints' leaving fake reviews.
This happens. You guys need to start appreciating the situation escorts are in. When a client finds a false review, he can sing and dance about it. Escorts have other concerns, it is not as easy for them to talk about it, but that doesn't mean it is not happening. We deal with many cases where we find a client has maliciously written a false review of an escort, but we can't normally talk about in in public as the escorts don't want that attention, to piss anyone off, they just want to get on with their work quietly, so it is not talked about in public.
Isn't the easiest thing to do, if you feel so strongly about this,
would just be to not visit escorts who don't allow reviews, and just visit ones who do allow reviews?? has that maybe crossed your mind?
Of course it has, and I agree with it, but in certain area of the country, the choices may not be great, there may only be a handfull of escorts working in the area and maybe only one or 2 allow reviews or have verified photos........
It's their own business and choice if they want them or not. It's DEFINITELY a privacy matter and I would love to see some of you clients as escorts just to feel the vulnerability they feel sometimes.
If they feel like not having reviews makes them feel safer, then so be it, they're not asking for your judgement or probably giving a fuck what you think. I certainly wouldn't, anyway.
Stop behaving as though you have a right to these things, you don't.
Nobody is denying a girls right to privacy, or their right to safety. We're trying to find ways to improve things for everybody..........
If everybody was to stop visiting escorts who don't have verified pics or allow reviews how is this helping then, by forcing them to use verified pics or allow reviews when they really don't want to as it effects their privacy or safety??? That's not really helping them. It's certainly helping the ones who do use genuine verifies pics and allow reviews, but not the others........
Now I've no doubt in my mind that some girls don't use genuine pics for personal reasons, I've often defended then here on the forum, it's their choice, and if they are busy enough, and seeing enough clients, and making enough, all the while providing a good service and pleasing their clients, then fair play to them..........
But as much as that is true, I'm sure there are many other girls who don't use genuine pics and don't allow reviews for other reasons, or have opted out to hide bad reviews............
nicegirlsarenice
20-02-10, 19:08
But belshaft7, at Argos and Currys they guarantee that that's what you're going to get. It's more like if Argos or Currys advertised on RTE or in a newspaper and then gave you the wrong product. Would you go after Argos/Currys or would you go after RTE/newspaper? Actually that analogy helps me see your point a little better, RTE would try not to advertise really disreputable people.
I still think it's a bit different though considering the fake reviews etc. Noone is forcing you to go to them, you know the score with them that they might be a bit dodgy. So what if they're allowed to advertise? How does that affect you in any way? What other punters and escorts do is really none of your business.
What if Patricia put up a big warning that pics are not verified and may not be the escorts there? That way, nobody is under any illusions and no newcomers are given a bad deal.
What if Patricia put up a big warning that pics are not verified and may not be the escorts there? That way, nobody is under any illusions and no newcomers are given a bad deal.
Why didn't some one think of it sooner.............:rolleyes:
adogwithabone
20-02-10, 20:24
adogwithabone, I am not rejecting your suggestion made here, in fact I think it is quite a good one.
However this comment:
This happens. You guys need to start appreciating the situation escorts are in. When a client finds a false review, he can sing and dance about it. Escorts have other concerns, it is not as easy for them to talk about it, but that doesn't mean it is not happening. We deal with many cases where we find a client has maliciously written a false review of an escort, but we can't normally talk about in in public as the escorts don't want that attention, to piss anyone off, they just want to get on with their work quietly, so it is not talked about in public.
I have escort friends who have had negative reviews. I do not recall any of them blaming a 'dodgy client'. most blame a jealous escort. Some, while arguing publicly that the review was false have told me that it was a date that went badly wrong, due as much to themselves as the client. I accept that there is the occasional genuinely malicious review by a client but it is probably no more than 1% of all fake reviews. There is one escort who, alone, probably has 50 fake reviews and her extended group of friends could account for hundreds more. The difficulty is that you do not seem to realise where the real problem with the review system lies.
adogwithabone
20-02-10, 20:33
Do you mean just this singular function should be added to the profile page of a girl who doesn't allow reviews???
And if that's the case, what's to stop this function being abused??? With no review attached to it and no accountability people could be clicking it willy nilly................
I mean that it would be the familiar review system with the dates and prices but, beyond that the only option available would be a single drop down menu relating to the authenticity of the photos and profile.
nicegirlsarenice
20-02-10, 20:53
I have escort friends who have had negative reviews. I do not recall any of them blaming a 'dodgy client'. most blame a jealous escort. Some, while arguing publicly that the review was false have told me that it was a date that went badly wrong, due as much to themselves as the client. I accept that there is the occasional genuinely malicious review by a client but it is probably no more than 1% of all fake reviews. There is one escort who, alone, probably has 50 fake reviews and her extended group of friends could account for hundreds more. The difficulty is that you do not seem to realise where the real problem with the review system lies.
It doesn't matter whether it's a dodgy client or a jealous escort or a pimp, that's irrelevant. It's not like Patricia is punishing clients somehow by doing this, it's just because of the fact that some girls get a lot of fake/bad reviews and aren't comfortable advertising with them.
It's not 'us vs them', maybe Patricia should have added "or other jealous escorts" but it's not relevant to this issue whether it's clients or other escorts that write bad reviews. .
Hi,
I think, that there is 2 ways about it. Either complately ban profiles with fake pics.
Second option. Initial profile not be allowed up (or at least no pics at all) until the girl on the pic sends a pic with holding a sign with the date and escort-ireland on it, and repeating sending in a new one every 2-4 weeks and/or every time there is a complaint, we have a ton of community moderators, they could be put in charge of that I think. All other pics should be marked unverified. so the girls with real pics who don't allow reviews could get a pic verification.
IMO girls with fake pictures or who are not willing to comply should not be allowed to advertise. There are girls who only have body parts up, so if someone is so privat, they could just do the same instead of using fakes.
adogwithabone
20-02-10, 21:31
Isn't the easiest thing to do, if you feel so strongly about this,
would just be to not visit escorts who don't allow reviews, and just visit ones who do allow reviews?? has that maybe crossed your mind?
It's their own business and choice if they want them or not. It's DEFINITELY a privacy matter and I would love to see some of you clients as escorts just to feel the vulnerability they feel sometimes.
If they feel like not having reviews makes them feel safer, then so be it, they're not asking for your judgement or probably giving a fuck what you think. I certainly wouldn't, anyway.
Stop behaving as though you have a right to these things, you don't.
I actually do believe that customers should have the right to report false advertising. To say that these escorts do not allow reviews in order to feel safer is one of the most idiotic things that I have heard in a long time. I fully support an escorts right to privacy in respect of any intimate acts that she may have with a client. I do not accept that she has the right to put up fake and misleading photos and to put false details on her profile. That is quite simply fraudulent advertising and I think that customers have every right to try to protect themselves from fraud.
As you say, neither the fakes nor yourself could give a fuck what I think. However, there are some genuine escorts who do not allow reviews. My initiative in respect of mandatory limited reviews is about identifying these genuine escorts as it is about exposing the chancers.
nicegirlsarenice
20-02-10, 21:42
I actually do believe that customers should have the right to report false advertising.
But it's not false advertising because they're not saying that they're definitely the pics. They're saying they MIGHT be the pics. Maybe there should be a HUGE warning saying THESE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE PICS. Luther said there was one earlier, but maybe like a warning on cigarette packs, a big huge warning. Then there can be no complaining and no fraud.
To say that these escorts do not allow reviews in order to feel safer is one of the most idiotic things that I have heard in a long time.
How sure are you of this? I wouldn't call people/things idiotic if you have no idea of their situation.
I fully support an escorts right to privacy in respect of any intimate acts that she may have with a client. I do not accept that she has the right to put up fake and misleading photos and to put false details on her profile. That is quite simply fraudulent advertising and I think that customers have every right to try to protect themselves from fraud.
Again it's not misleading if there's a big warning on the escort page that it may not be the real pics.
Perhaps they could have something like: "E-I takes no responsibility for the accuracy or lack thereof for these pics".
Would that make you happy? As I see it your opinion on it makes no difference, as you're not the type of person these advertisements are directed towards.
I think you're not so concerned about other punters being misled at all. It's more that YOU are just feeling like YOU might be missing out on extra escorts because you won't take a chance with them. That's tough luck. You can't make escorts do something or get Patricia to do something just because it suits you.
Fuck you and your E-I committing "fraud" and "most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time".
adogwithabone
20-02-10, 21:56
It doesn't matter whether it's a dodgy client or a jealous escort or a pimp, that's irrelevant. It's not like Patricia is punishing clients somehow by doing this, it's just because of the fact that some girls get a lot of fake/bad reviews and aren't comfortable advertising with them.
It's not 'us vs them', maybe Patricia should have added "or other jealous escorts" but it's not relevant to this issue whether it's clients or other escorts that write bad reviews. .
Congratulations on getting the PR job. It is always a case of 'us vs them'. The relevant question is who are 'us' and who are 'them'. In this case, the 'us' are the customers and genuine escorts, while the 'them' are the fraudsters, Patricia and Mia.;)
nicegirlsarenice
20-02-10, 22:04
"Patricia and Mia are fraudsters," right... well at least everyone has a chance to have their say. :rolleyes:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/images/2009/1110/242191_1.jpg
adogwithabone
20-02-10, 22:10
But it's not false advertising because they're not saying that they're definitely the pics. They're saying they MIGHT be the pics. Maybe there should be a HUGE warning saying THESE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE PICS. Luther said there was one earlier, but maybe like a warning on cigarette packs, a big huge warning. Then there can be no complaining and no fraud.
How sure are you of this? I wouldn't call people/things idiotic if you have no idea of their situation.
Again it's not misleading if there's a big warning on the escort page that it may not be the real pics.
Perhaps they could have something like: "E-I takes no responsibility for the accuracy or lack thereof for these pics".
Would that make you happy? As I see it your opinion on it makes no difference, as you're not the type of person these advertisements are directed towards.
I think you're not so concerned about other punters being misled at all. It's more that YOU are just feeling like YOU might be missing out on extra escorts because you won't take a chance with them. That's tough luck. You can't make escorts do something or get Patricia to do something just because it suits you.
Fuck you and your E-I committing "fraud" and "most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time".
I have to say that having read through this, I have come to the conclusion that one of us has to be crazy. Unfortunately, at this stage, I am not totally convinced that it is you!!!!!!!!!!;)
I just think the demanding attitude will get you nowhere and any escorts reading this will be put off by you. You're not in control, they are, so get over it.
There are many reasons girls don't want reviews, i wouldn't want them, although i KNOW i was good. For me it would be a privacy thing. If the client mentions a tattoo, or something else for example...I prefer to keep what goes on between me and the clients between us. i would not be adverse to a 'good' and 'bad' button to click, or giving the escorts a rating out of ten, that would be fine. but these detailed reports are not my cup of tea to have everyone reading. I can understand false pics etc being frustrating, so maybe something to tick saying 'real pics, yes or no?'. or something if they dont allow reviews. It's out of your control.
and would you ever go away with your reporting false advertising, who are you going to report it to now in fairness?? that was the funniest thing i've read in a long time.
It is a matter of choice and privacy, not your decision because youre pissed off a girl you want to see doesnt allow reviews, just go see someone else, and maybe do other things with your day than getting all worked up and spending so much time and effort on this issue.
I was no fake, but i had no profile, limited pics that only 'friends' of me on this site could see, and was not able to advertise.....
yet i still have a PM in my inbox from you asking to see me....
Hi,
I think, that there is 2 ways about it. Either complately ban profiles with fake pics.
Second option. Initial profile not be allowed up (or at least no pics at all) until the girl on the pic sends a pic with holding a sign with the date and escort-ireland on it, and repeating sending in a new one every 2-4 weeks and/or every time there is a complaint, we have a ton of community moderators, they could be put in charge of that I think. All other pics should be marked unverified. so the girls with real pics who don't allow reviews could get a pic verification.
IMO girls with fake pictures or who are not willing to comply should not be allowed to advertise. There are girls who only have body parts up, so if someone is so privat, they could just do the same instead of using fakes.
That makes sense.
I think girls shouldn't be allowed use photo's that are out of date either. Maybe a "verified but out of date" sign could be used for profile pictures that are years old.
I have been reading the above with interest and have to say that we are coming down an Adog unnecessarily harshly. The funny thing is at the end of the day we are all saying and agreeing with the same thing. But I do think it is wrong to force a girl to allow reviews, she is entitled to opt out, although I also can’t see how this is for safety reasons. Any escort should be allowed to opt out for privacy reasons only and for no other reason. I know of one girl of whom I gave a bad review who has now opted out. Is this fair.
Nicegirlsarenice said to Adog:
“I think you're not so concerned about other punters being misled at all. It's more that YOU are just feeling like YOU might be missing out on extra escorts because you won't take a chance with them. That's tough luck. You can't make escorts do something or get Patricia to do something just because it suits you.”
Now surely this is an idiotic statement. I don’t know either of you guys but there seems to be a personal element here. We as customers are entitled to make a choice of an escort, and ANY escorts advertised, in good faith. It can NOT be “Tough luck” if we find we are duped. The real people to police this are E.I. staff. If a girl decides not to allow reviews her Photos MUST be authenticated otherwise her ad should not be allowed. E.I. has the power to do this and how hard is it to do.
As an example of Photos that should be examined take a look at this profile.
Angelica, Dublin Female Agency Escort, profile on Escort Ireland (https://www.escort-ireland.com/1517/Angelica/irish-escort.html)
This profile has been up since I started here 3 years ago. It is stated in the profile that this girl works for an agency but this is not the girls you get. Yet her pics are verified. In 3 years one review (marked a rat) states that this is not the girl. If it is an agency then state it on the profile clearly and stop showing “authenticated” pics of a girl that doesn’t exist. Accurate photos are vital guys!!!
As an example of Photos that should be examined take a look at this profile.
Angelica, Dublin Female Agency Escort, profile on Escort Ireland (https://www.escort-ireland.com/1517/Angelica/irish-escort.html)
This profile has been up since I started here 3 years ago. It is stated in the profile that this girl works for an agency but this is not the girls you get. Yet her pics are verified. In 3 years one review (marked a rat) states that this is not the girl. If it is an agency then state it on the profile clearly and stop showing “authenticated” pics of a girl that doesn’t exist. Accurate photos are vital guys!!!
If E-I contact this girl and ask for a photo for verification and she, or they, send in a pic of this girl holding a piece of paper saying Escort Ireland, as required for photo verification, then what more can be done short of someone goinig out to meet the girl???
It's quite possible that this girl does exist and the photos of this girl are genuine, but if someone does go to see this girl and it's not her they meet, then I'd say it's a bait and switch..........
In any case, the author of this review shares an IP with another reviewer and joined just to leave that review............it's BS I'd say............
So how are photos verified Luther. By us punters? I have seen profiles with verification but no reviews. So how does this work.
So how are photos verified Luther. By us punters? I have seen profiles with verification but no reviews. So how does this work.
E-I Photo Verification System FAQs from Escort Ireland (https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/photos.html)
As soon as Patricia sorts me out with the company car, I'll be all over the country.............:D:D:D
E-I Photo Verification System FAQs from Escort Ireland (https://www.escort-ireland.com/escorts/photos.html)
As soon as Patricia sorts me out with the company car, I'll be all over the country.............:D:D:D
You’ve done this before Luther. This is not my first time asking this question. I think you are copping out a little bit:
“We aim to strongly discourage the use of anything less than genuine recent escort photos on our website, and, with this in mind, we have developed a Photo Verification System, whereby we make checks on all the new escort photos we receive and clearly mark them as Verified if we believe they are recent genuine photos of the escort advertised or Not Verified if we do not have enough information to make that establishment.”
What CHECKS are made and how.
“If an escort's photos are classed as Verified it means we have information that leads us to believe that they are genuine recent photographs of the advertised escort.”
What information. Seeing as you didn’t get that car yet and haven’t traveled the country.
“We make a number of checks before we class any escort's photos as Verified (full details of which we do not publish here for the strategic reason that our system would be less effective if all escorts knew exactly how it worked)”
Ah come on now Luther how could it be LESS EFFECTIVE. It’s either a valid photo or not. You either have a good verification system or not. Now I can understand your difficulties here, save having to meet each and every one, but don’t insult my intelligence.
Mods are not involved in photo verification. I can only tell you what I see here. I'm not trying to cop out, I'm just trying to show you where it says how it works........
This is always going to be a difficult one short of actually meeting the girls........
I'm not disagreeing with you, it is a difficult one. The one suggestion I would make is that perhaps instead of the girls holding a piece of paper saying Escort Ireland, it should be a news paper, at least this can be dated........
For God sake, even the kidnappers do this...........:D:D:D
Any suggestions yourself???
Ok so let’s see if I have got this right. Each escort has to send you guys a photo of herself holding up a piece of paper that says Escort Ireland on it. Then they post their profile. The ‘Awaiting Verification’ is where you guys examine the photos posted and compare with the original photo sent to you. Ok, that has its merits. Definitely a copy of the “The Warsaw Voice’ or the “Irish Times” which ever the case maybe will tighten this up. But what happens if the profile only shows body parts. I suppose ye do the best ye can in this case. But having said that you are getting it badly wrong in some cases. I posted a survey of all the girls I reviewed a while back in one of these threads and the accuracy levels of photos accurately representing the girl was at about 65%.
The verification photo must show the face. It's not for publication.......
As I say, the mods are not directally involved in this............
You'd have to ask Ad Staff or Sarah etc about this stuff............
adogwithabone
21-02-10, 15:55
If E-I contact this girl and ask for a photo for verification and she, or they, send in a pic of this girl holding a piece of paper saying Escort Ireland, as required for photo verification, then what more can be done short of someone goinig out to meet the girl???
It's quite possible that this girl does exist and the photos of this girl are genuine, but if someone does go to see this girl and it's not her they meet, then I'd say it's a bait and switch..........
In any case, the author of this review shares an IP with another reviewer and joined just to leave that review............it's BS I'd say............
How daft can this get. Tell them to go out and buy that days Indo and to take one head shot with the paper and one full length in a bikini. There are too many girls here that turn out to be 10 kilos more than the photos.
How daft can this get. Tell them to go out and buy that days Indo and to take one head shot with the paper and one full length in a bikini. There are too many girls here that turn out to be 10 kilos more than the photos.
That's why I suggested it...........
I'm just pointing out the way it's done now........
Any suggestions people have of how to improve this are of course very welcome, and if viable, I'm sure will be considered...........
Good point I suppose, no I have to assume ,that the Verification photo sent has the girls in a state of undress. No point sending a photo of her mug whilst hiding a huge arse. Then again I do like a nice big arse at times. Actually I put myself forward to receive all these photos of girls naked or in bikinis, I dont really mind, And I will examine them for you guys. Im sure ye are too busy with other things and all. Im only trying to help.
Im sure ye are too busy with other things and all.
For a job like that..........:D:D:D
adogwithabone
21-02-10, 16:31
I just think the demanding attitude will get you nowhere and any escorts reading this will be put off by you. You're not in control, they are, so get over it.
There are many reasons girls don't want reviews, i wouldn't want them, although i KNOW i was good. For me it would be a privacy thing. If the client mentions a tattoo, or something else for example...I prefer to keep what goes on between me and the clients between us. i would not be adverse to a 'good' and 'bad' button to click, or giving the escorts a rating out of ten, that would be fine. but these detailed reports are not my cup of tea to have everyone reading. I can understand false pics etc being frustrating, so maybe something to tick saying 'real pics, yes or no?'. or something if they dont allow reviews. It's out of your control.
and would you ever go away with your reporting false advertising, who are you going to report it to now in fairness?? that was the funniest thing i've read in a long time.
It is a matter of choice and privacy, not your decision because youre pissed off a girl you want to see doesnt allow reviews, just go see someone else, and maybe do other things with your day than getting all worked up and spending so much time and effort on this issue.
I was no fake, but i had no profile, limited pics that only 'friends' of me on this site could see, and was not able to advertise.....
yet i still have a PM in my inbox from you asking to see me....
I do not know where all your personal animosity comes from and, Yes, I did try to reach out to you, on more than one occasion, to try to understand this. The crazy thing is that you are agreeing with what I have been asking for, look again at posts 11 and 19. I am trying to include escorts like yourself, while making it difficult for the fakes to survive.
I thought that it was obvious that I am seeking the ability to report false advertising to fellow clients and genuine escorts via the review system. I was under the impression that this forum was available to escorts and clients alike, to voice their views on how to improve the website for all except the frauds. What else have I got to do with my day when you will not see me:D
p.s. I am chuffed that you keep my PM all this time;)
At the moment we ask for verification photo and if not happy, we ask for another, stating why the first is not being considered suficient.
We are also thinking of introducing a public verification photo escorts could upload and unlike other verification photos, clients could see this on their profile, like Adult Work do I think. Just an idea, not something we decided to do yet.
We don't have rules like they have to be in state of undress and showing face. We can't go telling escorts they have to send us photos of themselves in a state of undress with their face showing! These are real women, who may not want to send anyone a photo like that, we are not going to demand they do.
At the moment we ask for verification photo and if not happy, we ask for another, stating why the first is not being considered suficient.
We are also thinking of introducing a public verification photo escorts could upload and unlike other verification photos, clients could see this on their profile, like Adult Work do I think. Just an idea, not something we decided to do yet.
We don't have rules like they have to be in state of undress and showing face. We can't go telling escorts they have to send us photos of themselves in a state of undress with their face showing! These are real women, who may not want to send anyone a photo like that, we are not going to demand they do.
What ya mean these are real women and the won't send photos of themselves in a state on undress. They may be real women no one disputes this, and they deserve as much respect as the next, but they have chosen to be escorts. Their profile may be viewed by the general public for Gods sake. How else can you verify that they are the girl in the photo and more importantly that it accurately depics the girl therein.
At the moment we ask for verification photo and if not happy, we ask for another, stating why the first is not being considered suficient.
We are also thinking of introducing a public verification photo escorts could upload and unlike other verification photos, clients could see this on their profile, like Adult Work do I think. Just an idea, not something we decided to do yet.
We don't have rules like they have to be in state of undress and showing face. We can't go telling escorts they have to send us photos of themselves in a state of undress with their face showing! These are real women, who may not want to send anyone a photo like that, we are not going to demand they do.
i dont understand how anybody can have a verified pic without showing their face in the pic that they send to E-I........how does that work they just send in a fully clothed body pic with a piece of paper with E-I written on it???
What ya mean these are real women and the won't send photos of themselves in a state on undress. They may be real women no one disputes this, and they deserve as much respect as the next, but they have chosen to be escorts. Their profile may be viewed by the general public for Gods sake. How else can you verify that they are the girl in the photo and more importantly that it accurately depics the girl therein.
I mean they may wish to hide their face and not show all their body. Sure lots of escorts are happy doing both these things, but not all escorts want to. Are you suggesting if an escort like to wear dresses in all her photos and not show her face, we should tell her we need to see her face and also the dress has to come off?
i dont understand how anybody can have a verified pic without showing their face in the pic that they send to E-I........how does that work they just send in a fully clothed body pic with a piece of paper with E-I written on it???
Most do, but it is not impossible to verify photos without face showing. If for example the escort is wearing the exact same distinctive clothes in the verification photo as the published photos, you can see they are genuine without needing to see a face.
Most do, but it is not impossible to verify photos without face showing. If for example the escort is wearing the exact same distinctive clothes in the verification photo as the published photos, you can see they are genuine without needing to see a face.
no i tink that you do have to see a face as if it is an agency it wouldnt be hard for someone to change into another persons colthes. i dont see a problem with fully clothed pics once the face can be seen by the person doing the verification.
no i tink that you do have to see a face as if it is an agency it wouldnt be hard for someone to change into another persons colthes. i dont see a problem with fully clothed pics once the face can be seen by the person doing the verification.
Maybe I should let Sarah reply to this as she is used to verifying photos, I am not, so maybe I can't answer these questions so well myself.
no i tink that you do have to see a face as if it is an agency it wouldnt be hard for someone to change into another persons colthes. i dont see a problem with fully clothed pics once the face can be seen by the person doing the verification.
i dont think E-I can make girls show their face. Legally ppl are entitled to animosity.
Westside.
Legally ppl are entitled to animosity.
Was that slip Freudian?
Was that slip Freudian?
it was slip Westian,
Westside.
Legally, I don't think you do have to provide the girls with animosity.........
One less thing to worry about eh................:D:D:D
I mean they may wish to hide their face and not show all their body. Sure lots of escorts are happy doing both these things, but not all escorts want to. Are you suggesting if an escort like to wear dresses in all her photos and not show her face, we should tell her we need to see her face and also the dress has to come off?
No Pat I’m not suggesting anything of the sort. But if an escort is to advertise herself in her profile in any form of undress she chooses then the verification picture should be of the same standard. If a girl chooses to put pictures of herself in underwear then your verification pic should be the same for you to verify. Is this unreasonable. Whether she shows her face or not is irrelevant so long as what she does want to show is VERIFIED.