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Patricia
28-01-10, 17:19
Hi,

We need votes and feedback on this issue please!

Thanks

Pat x

Epsilon
28-01-10, 17:20
How does somebody get to be a "trusted reviewer"? Is it down to the management or who makes that call? just curious.

adogwithabone
28-01-10, 17:22
When is the trusted reviewer badge going to be scrapped or revamped as I guarantee you most of the regular poster's think it's a shambles and it is misleading to those that don't know better??:mad:

I think that it is better than nothing. It is handy to be able to look down a girls reviews and to pick out someone who has some kind of track record in reviews/posts

Patricia
28-01-10, 17:23
How does somebody get to be a "trusted reviewer"? Is it down to the management or who makes that call? just curious.

Yes basically, there are lots of discussions behind the scenes, but essentially we decide if someone has a certain number of reviews and they are considered genuine, you can add the badge etc..

Epsilon
28-01-10, 17:28
Yes basically, there are lots of discussions behind the scenes, but essentially we decide if someone has a certain number of reviews and they are considered genuine, you can add the badge etc..

Ok thanks.

anon361
28-01-10, 17:49
Yes basically, there are lots of discussions behind the scenes, but essentially we decide if someone has a certain number of reviews and they are considered genuine, you can add the badge etc..

By that logic Patricia I do not agree it shows they can be trusted, yes it can show they are a genuine client but trusted :rolleyes:.

Maybe 2 different badges are in order, one that shows they are a genuine client like Black Cat and one that shows they can be trusted like.....well NOT Black Cat anyway!! :p

Mousey
28-01-10, 17:49
Maybe the escorts should recommend someone for the trusted reviewer badge - they'll be able to tell best of all who's genuine and who's not.

whiteknight111
28-01-10, 20:03
My concern is that people could abuse system.

i.e.

Punter A gets a badge
Punter A then arranges to meet escort B by PM
Escort B is a average escort buts gives a super-sexy service to Punter A when he turns up
as she knows what the craic is
Punter A writes great review
Escort B and punter A are happy
The rest of punters who go to Escort B based on this review may not get good service

Power = corruption =abuse

I would imagine there are worse examples than outlined.
Maybe I just paranoid.

anon361
28-01-10, 20:12
My concern is that people could abuse system.

i.e.

Punter A gets a badge
Punter A then arranges to meet escort B by PM
Escort B is a average escort buts gives a super-sexy service to Punter A when he turns up
as she knows what the craic is
Punter A writes great review
Escort B and punter A are happy
The rest of punters who go to Escort B based on this review may not get good service

Power = corruption =abuse

I would imagine there are worse examples than outlined.
Maybe I just paranoid.

I generally always got a good service even before I got my badge, being alright looking, well hung and I come in 2 seconds :yikes: are probably contributing factors LOL

BigPrickMick
28-01-10, 20:25
I generally always got a good service even before I got my badge, being alright looking, well hung and I come in 2 seconds :yikes: are probably contributing factors LOL

Serious question.

How big are you when hard?

whiteknight111
28-01-10, 20:27
I generally always got a good service even before I got my badge, being alright looking, well hung and I come in 2 seconds :yikes: are probably contributing factors LOL

Maybe you are punter A

El Gordo
28-01-10, 20:27
I think the question we need to answer is: trusted by whom?

If we mean trusted by the other members then the sensible thing to do is to have a public poll whenever anyone is proposed for trusted reviewer status. Perhaps two polls, one on the open boards and one on the private escort forum.

Obviously the existing "trusted reviewers" should be subjected to the same procedure, myself included. I note that one of them has already had such a poll, and lost.

The one thing you do not want to do is to go purely by the number of reviews. There are reviewers with more reviews than I have, except all of theirs are fake.

MrFussy
28-01-10, 20:36
I think the question we need to answer is: trusted by whom?

If we mean trusted by the other members then the sensible thing to do is to have a public poll whenever anyone is proposed for trusted reviewer status. Perhaps two polls, one on the open boards and one on the private escort forum.

Obviously the existing "trusted reviewers" should be subjected to the same procedure, myself included. I note that one of them has already had such a poll, and lost.

The one thing you do not want to do is to go purely by the number of reviews. There are reviewers with more reviews than I have, except all of theirs are fake.

I agree with El Gordo, number of reviews should not a measure. A poll on the open boards and one on the escort forum is a sensible approach. Also the 'proposal' process needs some structure, e.g. punters, mods and escorts should be able to propose someone. Finally, can you call it something other than 'Trusted' it implies all other reviews are not.

anon361
28-01-10, 20:52
Obviously the existing "trusted reviewers" should be subjected to the same procedure, myself included. I note that one of them has already had such a poll, and lost.

The one thing you do not want to do is to go purely by the number of reviews. There are reviewers with more reviews than I have, except all of theirs are fake.

Very good points but we have had so many "Polls" in the past that suggested change but were never acted upon, one which you just mentioned for a start!!

Limit the amount of reviews submitted per day to 1.

If it's a duo session then only allow one review of the encounter, generally it would be put on the profile of the lady you arranged the duo with and not 2 seperate reviews.

If you can't remember the date then you can't submit a review, as far as I'm concerned stating it's a while back or seen her several times in the past is a cop out!!

When submitting a review have an additional field asking a question that would be obvious to the client and one which E-I staff would already have the answer to, I.E A distinctive mark or tattoo, or appartment or even floor number or even a pre-determined code which each escort gives out, this would not be listed on the actual review but it would help weed out the reviewers that are submitting reviews as fantasy :rolleyes:

luther
28-01-10, 21:31
When submitting a review have an additional field asking a question that would be obvious to the client and one which E-I staff would already have the answer to, I.E A distinctive mark or tattoo, or appartment or even floor number or even a pre-determined code which each escort gives out, this would not be listed on the actual review but it would help weed out the reviewers that are submitting reviews as fantasy :rolleyes:

If someone is posting fake positive reviews for an escort, information like this would be easily obtained of given........

loneranger2
28-01-10, 21:41
I think the trusted reviewer badge is a great idea except I have doubts about those handing out the badges.
I have done over 20 reviews (some of same lady) and have taken time to do full honest review to help fellow punters given that I appreciate existing reviews.
However I did a review of Luna yesterday and some idiot moderator marked it FIRST REVIEW thus casting doubt on its validity. Pretty easy to see the records of my other reviews so Patricia explain that and why should we trust those 'behind the scene' discussions?

El Gordo
28-01-10, 21:42
If someone is posting fake positive reviews for an escort, information like this would be easily obtained of given........

True, but even weeding out fake negative reviews would be good. There aren't that many, my guess is 5-10% of fake reviews are negative, but a negative review typically has much more impact than a positive one. And it would weed out some fake positives: the guys who are not corrupt but are simply living in a fantasy world.

anon361
28-01-10, 21:46
I think the trusted reviewer badge is a great idea except I have doubts about those handing out the badges.
I have done over 20 reviews (some of same lady) and have taken time to do full honest review to help fellow punters given that I appreciate existing reviews.
However I did a review of Luna yesterday and some idiot moderator marked it FIRST REVIEW thus casting doubt on its validity. Pretty easy to see the records of my other reviews so Patricia explain that and why should we trust those 'behind the scene' discussions?

Second person this evening to post this complaint, bumpy road indeed Patricia!!

https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/181247-post7.html

anon361
28-01-10, 21:51
Also, get rid of the Top 30 reviewers field on the reviews main page, this only encourages reviewers to submit fake reviews in order to get on this list and in turn maybe score favour with escorts..

Drake Ramora
28-01-10, 22:02
My concern is that people could abuse system.

i.e.

Punter A gets a badge
Punter A then arranges to meet escort B by PM
Escort B is a average escort buts gives a super-sexy service to Punter A when he turns up
as she knows what the craic is
Punter A writes great review
Escort B and punter A are happy
The rest of punters who go to Escort B based on this review may not get good service

Power = corruption =abuse

I would imagine there are worse examples than outlined.
Maybe I just paranoid.

This knight speaks some truth here i would imagine..

Do Trusted Reviewers announce who they are or keep quite and say nothing ?

El Gordo
28-01-10, 22:15
Also, get rid of the Top 30 reviewers field on the reviews main page, this only encourages reviewers to submit fake reviews in order to get on this list and in turn maybe score favour with escorts..

And change the top 30 reviewed escorts list so that rats and N/A's don't count.

Anna23
28-01-10, 22:15
This knight speaks some truth here i would imagine..

Do Trusted Reviewers announce who they are or keep quite and say nothing ?

They tell who they are. It is a powerful tool for getting a longer and better session from any escort.

Drake Ramora
28-01-10, 22:19
They tell who they are. It is a powerful tool for getting a longer and better session from any escort.

Well if it is abused like this, then it needs to be removed..

The only ones who know the answer are the escorts...

El Gordo
28-01-10, 22:20
This knight speaks some truth here i would imagine..

Do Trusted Reviewers announce who they are or keep quite and say nothing ?

I can only speak for myself, but most of my visits are repeats, so those escorts know who I am. And the other visits are often booked by pm, so they would also know. I did that even before I became a "trusted reviewer", of course. So the truth is that I don't know whether I would get the same treatment as an anonymous punter. But, like Anon, I was pretty happy with the treatment I was getting before.

bumlover
28-01-10, 22:38
They tell who they are. It is a powerful tool for getting a longer and better session from any escort.

so anna, what your saying is that if a punter pm's you, which you do state for them to do, you see and know exactly who they are, and if they have a review badge then you tend to put in the extra effort for which you wouldn't do if the punter didn't have a badge?:confused::confused:

luther
28-01-10, 22:48
so anna, what your saying is that if a punter pm's you, which you do state for them to do, you see and know exactly who they are, and if they have a review badge then you tend to put in the extra effort for which you wouldn't do if the punter didn't have a badge?:confused::confused:

Someone complaining about Anna in relation to reviews........

Now where have I seen this before.........:confused::confused::confused:.......................;)

carlos marvado
28-01-10, 22:50
so anna, what your saying is that if a punter pm's you, which you do state for them to do, you see and know exactly who they are, and if they have a review badge then you tend to put in the extra effort for which you wouldn't do if the punter didn't have a badge?:confused::confused:

Makes sense from an escort's point of view. If reviews help an escort to get more business and if reviews from a trusted reviewer carry the most weight and the escort knows that her client is one of these, then she has an added incentive to try and ensure that she gets a good review from him.

bumlover
28-01-10, 22:52
Someone complaining about Anna in relation to reviews........

Now where have I seen this before.........:confused::confused::confused:.......................;)

havnt a clue what your on about luther, i mentioned about the badge and the pm system, nothing about reviews:confused::confused:

luther
28-01-10, 22:56
havnt a clue what your on about luther, i mentioned about the badge and the pm system, nothing about reviews:confused::confused:

I'm heading down to the pub to meet a mate I haven't seen for a while, he use to be in the army.......

The SAS I think..........;)

I'm sure the break will do me good..............

bumlover
28-01-10, 22:56
Makes sense from an escort's point of view. If reviews help an escort to get more business and if reviews from a trusted reviewer carry the most weight and the escort knows that her client is one of these, then she has an added incentive to try and ensure that she gets a good review from him.

yes carlos i understand what your saying, but what i am asking is should the escorts (not just anna) try to provide the same standard of service to every one not just an extra 10% just because this punter has a badge?:confused::confused:

anon361
28-01-10, 23:00
I don't think it's fair to single out Anna for this question as she was merely speaking in general as we all know in life we pull out that little extra for the big fish, Carlos is just being pragmatic (spelling?) about it as maybe you should be??

Alec Horan
28-01-10, 23:04
as a punter who actually does not give a tuppence about reviews can i offer my opinion.

a trusted reviewer must surely have at least 10-20% of bad punts. i cant trust someone who says they are all great - i can only assume that they are fibbing.

there is a link to all punters reviews on profile - how about a note stating how many positive versus negative reviews - ditto the ladies

El Gordo
28-01-10, 23:05
They tell who they are. It is a powerful tool for getting a longer and better session from any escort.

I read this as a complaint rather than a confession. I think that's the way most fair-minded people would view it.

luther
28-01-10, 23:08
I don't think it's fair to single out Anna for this question as she was merely speaking in general as we all know in life we pull out that little extra for the big fish, Carlos is just being pragmatic (spelling?) about it as maybe you should be??

Like this guy...........;)

https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/general-chat/30218-reviews.html

Anna23
28-01-10, 23:12
Like this guy...........;)

https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/general-chat/30218-reviews.html

Ah, just another "trusted reviewer" who gets one hour although he payed only for half and then complains:rolleyes:

JAMESCORK
28-01-10, 23:33
The Escorts themselves should be asked about the Trusted Reviewers. Surely The Staff are in constant communication with them.

carlos marvado
28-01-10, 23:54
yes carlos i understand what your saying, but what i am asking is should the escorts (not just anna) try to provide the same standard of service to every one not just an extra 10% just because this punter has a badge?:confused::confused:

I think that this is a general issue and not something specific to any one escort.

1. Should escorts try to provide the same standard of service to every client?

In theory yes, but there are plenty of factors which affect service: Escort having a good/bad/long/tiring day for whatever reason, cleanliness of client, attitude of client, attractiveness of client, etc.

2. Should the badge guarantee extra effort from the escort?

In theory no, the trusted reviewer may only pay her one visit, the guy without the badge could end up becoming a regular. However, in practice life is never fair or equal.

3. Should Trusted Reviewer Badges be abolished.

Yes, in my view they only insentivise abuse of the review system even further.

Notatwork
29-01-10, 11:49
The badge is helpful in choosing an escort,a quick glance down the ladys reviews to spot any trusted reviewers helps i think.

Alana
29-01-10, 12:39
The badge is helpful in choosing an escort,a quick glance down the ladys reviews to spot any trusted reviewers helps i think.

The blind leading the blind ;)

Quarterpoundher
29-01-10, 13:21
The blind leading the blind ;)

The one eyed man (or trusted reviewer) is king... :D

Alana
29-01-10, 13:53
The one eyed man (or trusted reviewer) is king... :D

Absolutly QPH, couldn't have put it better myself :rolleyes:

Elle x

Quarterpoundher
29-01-10, 14:13
Absolutly QPH, couldn't have put it better myself :rolleyes:

Elle x

And of course the one eyed Escort is Queen :)

My metaphor is that it needs both trusted Clients and Trusted Escorts to have any real shot at coming up with a workable way to get valid and truthful reviews.

Trusted reviewers to post reviews and a few trusted Escorts who have seen a particular Client to vote that he is the real deal and thus is deserving of that much sought after badge to be awarded to a potential new trusted reviewer.

How can any one review mod (or a group) possibly know who is a potential perfectly honest reviewer?

Why waste the enormous resource of the people who have actually seen them up close and personnel and not pm a few who have been reviewed and if say 5 say he is who he is and review is valid then badge him?

And before anyone picks holes in it, off course its not perfect, nothing ever will be when it comes to reviews but badges should be issued based on Client posters saying they have faith in his reviews and a few trusted Escorts saying similar.

Two people with one eye each end up with 20/20 vision if they work together and got to better then the blind leading the blind.

Drake Ramora
29-01-10, 15:03
Makes sense from an escort's point of view. If reviews help an escort to get more business and if reviews from a trusted reviewer carry the most weight and the escort knows that her client is one of these, then she has an added incentive to try and ensure that she gets a good review from him.

No i think what should happen Carlos is the Trusted Reviewer should not announce who he is..

If restaurant inspectors announced who they were, then the meal would always be perfect..

A Trusted Reviewer should say nothing..

If he does announce who he is then i believe the escort involved should report said reviewer to Pat and he should be stripped of his medal...

adogwithabone
29-01-10, 17:41
My concern is that people could abuse system.

i.e.

Punter A gets a badge
Punter A then arranges to meet escort B by PM
Escort B is a average escort buts gives a super-sexy service to Punter A when he turns up
as she knows what the craic is
Punter A writes great review
Escort B and punter A are happy
The rest of punters who go to Escort B based on this review may not get good service

Power = corruption =abuse

I would imagine there are worse examples than outlined.
Maybe I just paranoid.

Could anybody be sad enough to try this???? I think that all reviews should be anonymous. One of the things that surprises me is that every review that I have had in this name is for a meeting that has, theoretically, taken place at 8am on the morning of the review. Nobody has ever queried this. I pick this time because it is the one time that most escorts can be sure that they did not meet anybody. I do this because I think that it is important that there is no connection between me and my persona here. This means that I can give objective reviews and still meet the girls again. If a girl asks me to write a review for her, I say ' sorry, I dont do reviews'
In my experience, the difference between great sex and poor sex with an escort is largely down to mutual respect and consideration. Great sex is where the girl is as hungry and horny for it as you are and wants to put everything that she knows into it. Anybody who is a regular client of escorts will have no doubt as to which girls are enjoying great sex and which are faking it. As a client you know full well the difference between coming out of a session where you have had a good 'service' and a session where you have had great sex. Every session that you go to, you hope that it will be great sex. The rapport between the two of you is vital. If you start out as some sad f*cker using a potential review to get some kind of better service, you have lost before you even begin.

whiteknight111
29-01-10, 18:54
Could anybody be sad enough to try this???? I think that all reviews should be anonymous. One of the things that surprises me is that every review that I have had in this name is for a meeting that has, theoretically, taken place at 8am on the morning of the review. Nobody has ever queried this. I pick this time because it is the one time that most escorts can be sure that they did not meet anybody. I do this because I think that it is important that there is no connection between me and my persona here. This means that I can give objective reviews and still meet the girls again. If a girl asks me to write a review for her, I say ' sorry, I dont do reviews'
In my experience, the difference between great sex and poor sex with an escort is largely down to mutual respect and consideration. Great sex is where the girl is as hungry and horny for it as you are and wants to put everything that she knows into it. Anybody who is a regular client of escorts will have no doubt as to which girls are enjoying great sex and which are faking it. As a client you know full well the difference between coming out of a session where you have had a good 'service' and a session where you have had great sex. Every session that you go to, you hope that it will be great sex. The rapport between the two of you is vital. If you start out as some sad f*cker using a potential review to get some kind of better service, you have lost before you even begin.

Power without responsibility is the prerogative of the harlot

whiteknight111
29-01-10, 19:12
Lisa Simspon
"if you are the police who will police the police"

Homer

" I donnt know ............ coastguard"

Dirty Harry
29-01-10, 20:04
so anna, what your saying is that if a punter pm's you, which you do state for them to do, you see and know exactly who they are, and if they have a review badge then you tend to put in the extra effort for which you wouldn't do if the punter didn't have a badge?:confused::confused:dear dear you sound like a guy that is jealous of punters with a trusted reviewer badge :confused: or perhaps maybe you lost a trusted reviewer badge under a different users name:D you seem botherd by this i would say that anna and most good genuine escorts would give a genuine service to a client anyway:)

JAMESCORK
30-01-10, 01:00
Jeeze I getting sick and tired with all these posts of guys complaining about who has a medal and who hasn’t, who is abusing theirs and who isn’t. Jesus lads we are losing the plot here. Reviews are there to help us as punters to get a good experience for our hard earned. Who gives a shit if a guy has a MEDAL or not, surely if at least he reviews and gives SOME sort of help to us guys rather than us being a Guiney pig and finding out that Cheryl Cole turns out to be Susan Boyle.
I have a medal and I have no idea who decided to AWARD it, but is prob because I decide to get up off my arse and leave a review. But to touch on the point “should medal reviewers get preferred treatment” - well feck ye - I spend my money like the rest, but at least I give a review - as best I can to MY taste. I have never told any escort who I am, I don’t PM, and I don’t think it is necessary to tell, but having said that - save having an asshole pompously broadcasting he is a MEDAL reviewer - trusted reviewers should be awarded the escort being in a better mood at least, than Joe soap. For the effort he has given to “the community”, doesn’t he deserve it? Grow up lads.

P.S. As a so called trusted reviewer I would like to propose that Mr Maxi be given a badge. Believe me I have no idea who the guy is but aren’t the calibre of his reviews what we all should be giving. Let me know what ye think……

JAMESCORK
30-01-10, 02:09
Reviews of Irish escorts written by Irish escort client mr maxi - Escort Ireland (https://www.escort-ireland.com/8692/mrmaxi/author-reviews.html)

I suppose i should at least leave a link fo Mr Maxi's reviews. I hope that works. Excuse me Im new to this world.

ber
30-01-10, 10:18
Well said Hun

I don't ask clients for reviews but it's fustrating when I think I've seen around 200 clients since I started advertising in august and only 8 has bothered to get off there ass and write a damm review

and yes I'm good at my job and have stacksof regulars some of which are regular posters on this board and they just don't bother reviewing
you all know who you are :(

I think maybe I should start refusing to see my regulars unless they get off there dam lazy ass and start writing






e

I wrote u one:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
Please dont be mad at me:(:(:(:(

Forrest
30-01-10, 17:56
Well said Hun

I don't ask clients for reviews but it's fustrating when I think I've seen around 200 clients since I started advertising in august and only 8 has bothered to get off there ass and write a damm review

and yes I'm good at my job and have stacksof regulars some of which are regular posters on this board and they just don't bother reviewing
you all know who you are :(

I think maybe I should start refusing to see my regulars unless they get off there dam lazy ass and start writing

e

Sometimes, quality is better than quantity Kelly. 8 very positive reviews is far better than 20 mix & match reviews.

Forrest
30-01-10, 18:03
as a punter who actually does not give a tuppence about reviews can i offer my opinion.

a trusted reviewer must surely have at least 10-20% of bad punts. i cant trust someone who says they are all great - i can only assume that they are fibbing.

there is a link to all punters reviews on profile - how about a note stating how many positive versus negative reviews - ditto the ladies

If you do your homework prior to booking an escort, and have the right attitude when you visit a lady, you can have a great time, every time. Every encounter I had in 2009 was excellent as a result, but I didn't always submit a review
Unfortunately, I didn't always do my home work fully, and, in previous years, suffered the consequences. Reviews are an important part of the selection process.

Notatwork
30-01-10, 18:11
Well said Hun

I don't ask clients for reviews but it's fustrating when I think I've seen around 200 clients since I started advertising in august and only 8 has bothered to get off there ass and write a damm review

and yes I'm good at my job and have stacksof regulars some of which are regular posters on this board and they just don't bother reviewing
you all know who you are :(

I think maybe I should start refusing to see my regulars unless they get off there dam lazy ass and start writing






e

Kelly,thats very disappointing for you.I dont review all my visits and only started reviewing in 2008 but i think if an escort provides me with an really enjoyable experience it nice to show my appreciation by posting her a nice positive review and if my review helps her biz,its a result all round.