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slavetoyou
17-09-13, 09:54
Just wondering how far you think it is acceptable or how far you would go physically to prove your submission to a Mistress. Would you get branded, tattooed, scarred, bruised, or just generally f••ked up.
I saw something about this not so long ago and was curious about how others felt. I know some guys do forced bi sessions, scat etc to prove submission but they don't leave any obvious physical marks only maybe mental so when it's done it's gone.
What is too far????

jack78
19-09-13, 22:13
Branding sounds likea good idea, but not if you are married, that would take some explaining!

Have you played around with forced bi?

Curvaceous Kate
19-09-13, 22:15
I would imagine that would be dependent on if it was treated as a 'fetish' or a way of life. I know many couples who are in Domme/sub relationships and they would go the full distance to prove their love and submission, but then they don't have to worry about a vanilla partner finding out what they have been doing.

slavetoyou
19-09-13, 23:37
I would imagine that would be dependent on if it was treated as a 'fetish' or a way of life. I know many couples who are in Domme/sub relationships and they would go the full distance to prove their love and submission, but then they don't have to worry about a vanilla partner finding out what they have been doing.

Isn't a fetish a way of life anyway. Regardless of how you may appear or "live" your life you are really only true to yourself when you are living out your fetish. Obviously if there are other people involved it is not as straight forward as getting branded like some cow at a rodeo and so on. If there is no one else involved and its not a couple relationship then is it too excessive to do this or as long as no one gets "hurt" it's fine, or is it a step to far between fantasy and reality?

slavetoyou
19-09-13, 23:40
Branding sounds likea good idea, but not if you are married, that would take some explaining!

Have you played around with forced bi?

They would hardly believe you fell onto a hot iron with someone's initials on it, would they?

As for forced Bi, I don't think there is such a thing really. How forced is it?

jack78
20-09-13, 21:47
They would hardly believe you fell onto a hot iron with someone's initials on it, would they?

As for forced Bi, I don't think there is such a thing really. How forced is it?

Maybe your right but is there really such a thing as submission either?

slavetoyou
20-09-13, 22:03
Maybe your right but is there really such a thing as submission either?

Good point, we all only do what we really want to do or else it's time to call for help.
So in answer to your original question yes I have, didn't want too but did, you could say "forced" I suppose.

jack78
20-09-13, 22:08
Good point, we all only do what we really want to do or else it's time to call for help.
So in answer to your original question yes I have, didn't want too but did, you could say "forced" I suppose.
Pray tell, what level did you sink to?

slavetoyou
20-09-13, 22:23
Pray tell, what level did you sink to?

You seem very curious about this subject. Is it something you have, wanted too or are just curious about? Have you "sunk" to any particular level?

Curvaceous Kate
20-09-13, 23:04
Isn't a fetish a way of life anyway. Regardless of how you may appear or "live" your life you are really only true to yourself when you are living out your fetish. Obviously if there are other people involved it is not as straight forward as getting branded like some cow at a rodeo and so on. If there is no one else involved and its not a couple relationship then is it too excessive to do this or as long as no one gets "hurt" it's fine, or is it a step to far between fantasy and reality?

I would say you get two camps here. The curious and the lifestyle. Some people have a mild fetish and curiousity towards things and once their curiousity has been quenched, they happily move on to more vanilla things, where perhaps they may incorporate a little of their fetish into their real world when given the opportunity.

The lifestyle type tend to gravitate towards others who are of similar nature and tend to socialise with people who then may become a part of their everyday life or become a secret side to their life. If it is a secret, then they are limited to what they can endure, although some get a kick from the possibility of being caught out and perhaps in some ways they do want to be caught out, so they can commit themselves more fully to their life choice.

Then in retrospect you have a third type, who jumped in with both feet and found themselves embroiled with the full Monty and having found themselves there, realised that it wasn't really them in full and not the lifestyle they actually want, but they are so deeply involved, how do they get back out?

For some people the fantasy is more real that the reality, for others the reality is why they need the fantasy. We are complicated creatures to say the least.

slavetoyou
21-09-13, 09:32
I would say you get two camps here. The curious and the lifestyle. Some people have a mild fetish and curiousity towards things and once their curiousity has been quenched, they happily move on to more vanilla things, where perhaps they may incorporate a little of their fetish into their real world when given the opportunity.

The lifestyle type tend to gravitate towards others who are of similar nature and tend to socialise with people who then may become a part of their everyday life or become a secret side to their life. If it is a secret, then they are limited to what they can endure, although some get a kick from the possibility of being caught out and perhaps in some ways they do want to be caught out, so they can commit themselves more fully to their life choice.

Then in retrospect you have a third type, who jumped in with both feet and found themselves embroiled with the full Monty and having found themselves there, realised that it wasn't really them in full and not the lifestyle they actually want, but they are so deeply involved, how do they get back out?

For some people the fantasy is more real that the reality, for others the reality is why they need the fantasy. We are complicated creatures to say the least.


Very well put. Yes we truly are complicated creatures, so I suppose the secret is to find a balance somewhere between fantasy and reality and only go as far as you will not regret. For some people this may not be easy and for others it may be very easy. We are all "sane and responsible" adults so should be able decide and endure the consequences of how we choose to live our lives. After all it will be "you" who has to live with your life so "you" may as well enjoy it.
With regard to "vanilla" I prefer it strawberry flavoured, covered in chocolate sauce, covered in hundreds and thousands with two sparklers to top it off. It tastes so much better!!!

slavetoyou
24-09-13, 22:14
You seem very curious about this subject. Is it something you have, wanted too or are just curious about? Have you "sunk" to any particular level?

Jack78, you've gone all quite. Did I touch a nerve??

jack78
25-09-13, 21:04
Jack78, you've gone all quite. Did I touch a nerve??
Oops, you didnt touch a nerve, I was just off thread.

Yes, it is an area that interests me, I've played around with variations on the theme, being a sub to tv/ts etc but never actually the straight up forced bi.

Have you ever done some cum play as part of your sessions with your mistress

slavetoyou
25-09-13, 21:21
Oops, you didnt touch a nerve, I was just off thread.

Yes, it is an area that interests me, I've played around with variations on the theme, being a sub to tv/ts etc but never actually the straight up forced bi.

Have you ever done some cum play as part of your sessions with your mistress

Forced Bi wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it's not something I'm that interested in. If my Mistress requires that I would do it then that's another story. Never been with a TV/TS, would be more inclined I think to go for a TS but that's just what I think I could consider. Again not sure if I would or not.

I can't really answer your last question as a "gentleman" never discusses what happens with a lady, especially with a Mistress unless I get permission. Lets just say I have done quite a lot of things with quite a lot of escorts and Mistresses over the years before I ever became a slave to my new Mistress.

jack78
25-09-13, 21:43
Forced Bi wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but it's not something I'm that interested in. If my Mistress requires that I would do it then that's another story. Never been with a TV/TS, would be more inclined I think to go for a TS but that's just what I think I could consider. Again not sure if I would or not.

I can't really answer your last question as a "gentleman" never discusses what happens with a lady, especially with a Mistress unless I get permission. Lets just say I have done quite a lot of things with quite a lot of escorts and Mistresses over the years before I ever became a slave to my new Mistress.

So what wouldnt you do for your mistress?

slavetoyou
26-09-13, 06:22
So what wouldnt you do for your mistress?

There is nothing I wouldn't do for my Mistress. "Her wish is my command", I take my signature very seriously and I'm quite sure my Mistress is fully aware of how serious I do take my role.
Do you want to be a "slave or sub"? Or is it more to do with the Bi part that excites you. You definitely seem inclined that way, so is that as far as you would go for a Mistress as that is really what you want? What's out of your comfort zone that you could consider "forced" or to actually "submit control" to a Mistress, how far would you go?
We have all different tolerances but you have to be willing to push these to please a Mistress. We all have limits, and it is a Mistresses role to push them and the role of a slave to be pushed. Now as we are willing participants a good Mistress will not "make" a slave do something that will cause real harm to their well being hence why people use safe words etc. Thankfully I do not use a safe word as having no limits (so far anyway) I rely on a "Very Good Mistress, in fact Excellent Mistress to set my limits"
I'll let your imagination run with that one.

jack78
28-09-13, 08:17
There is nothing I wouldn't do for my Mistress. "Her wish is my command", I take my signature very seriously and I'm quite sure my Mistress is fully aware of how serious I do take my role.
Do you want to be a "slave or sub"? Or is it more to do with the Bi part that excites you. You definitely seem inclined that way, so is that as far as you would go for a Mistress as that is really what you want? What's out of your comfort zone that you could consider "forced" or to actually "submit control" to a Mistress, how far would you go?
We have all different tolerances but you have to be willing to push these to please a Mistress. We all have limits, and it is a Mistresses role to push them and the role of a slave to be pushed. Now as we are willing participants a good Mistress will not "make" a slave do something that will cause real harm to their well being hence why people use safe words etc. Thankfully I do not use a safe word as having no limits (so far anyway) I rely on a "Very Good Mistress, in fact Excellent Mistress to set my limits"
I'll let your imagination run with that one.

It really isn't the bi bit that interests me,I guess for me that represents the greatest possible submission to mistress, I've done the body worship, strapon training etc so i am just looking for the next level of sub and humiliation. Sounds like you have a soe Ia, relationship with your mistress. Have you tried mistress 4 u? She is amazing, and back in town next week, you should go, she will stretch your limits!

slavetoyou
28-09-13, 14:00
It really isn't the bi bit that interests me,I guess for me that represents the greatest possible submission to mistress, I've done the body worship, strapon training etc so i am just looking for the next level of sub and humiliation. Sounds like you have a soe Ia, relationship with your mistress. Have you tried mistress 4 u? She is amazing, and back in town next week, you should go, she will stretch your limits!

I suppose everyone's idea of total submission is different. Like you what gets me is always trying to go to the next level. I can't not stress enough to my Mistress how much I enjoy being her slave so I find I'm constantly try to prove my total and utter submission. The more I submit the more I need to prove it, so the more I submit again the more I need to prove and the more I submit..... you know how it goes by now I think. That's where my original question came from really, how far can you go to prove submission? We slaves have it tough.......
Mistress 4u looks good alright but as another act of submission I now only see my Mistress and no one else and it doesn't matter how long between her tours it is. I usually make up for it when she does arrive. A sort of voluntary celibacy you could call it. But it is worth the wait.

jack78
28-09-13, 19:01
I suppose everyone's idea of total submission is different. Like you what gets me is always trying to go to the next level. I can't not stress enough to my Mistress how much I enjoy being her slave so I find I'm constantly try to prove my total and utter submission. The more I submit the more I need to prove it, so the more I submit again the more I need to prove and the more I submit..... you know how it goes by now I think. That's where my original question came from really, how far can you go to prove submission? We slaves have it tough.......
Mistress 4u looks good alright but as another act of submission I now only see my Mistress and no one else and it doesn't matter how long between her tours it is. I usually make up for it when she does arrive. A sort of voluntary celibacy you could call it. But it is worth the wait.

I get that but really you are missing out here, m4 is an amazing lady, she can get inside your head and within minutes of our first appointment she knew me better that I knew myself, she could push buttons I didn't even know I had.
You could go see her, just to see how it goes and if for some reason you decide to go back to your old mistress, you tell her about it, just think of the punishment she will give you!!

slavetoyou
28-09-13, 22:50
I get that but really you are missing out here, m4 is an amazing lady, she can get inside your head and within minutes of our first appointment she knew me better that I knew myself, she could push buttons I didn't even know I had.
You could go see her, just to see how it goes and if for some reason you decide to go back to your old mistress, you tell her about it, just think of the punishment she will give you!!

I'm sure Mistress 4u is as good as you say but I have given a commitment. You see when I begged my Mistress to allow me to become her slave I really wanted to be her slave. I feel that you can only have one Mistress, so when I was accepted as her slave I had totally submitted to her. As another way to prove my submission I chose not to see any other escorts no matter how tempting they maybe. I have seen many escorts but my Mistress was the only one that I really wanted to be her slave. I cannot be a slave for a couple of hours during a session and then leave and see some other escort, that's not right. If you are just a sub well that's fine but if you are a slave then you must be loyal. It helps with being submissive as you must always deny temptation and be loyal so you are always in role. I will admit that I have been tempted by some escorts profiles and pics( not many but maybe 2 or 3 ) but I will not give in as when I see my Mistress it is totally worth the denial. Even though you say I am missing out really I am not. I am lucky to be allowed to serve a beautiful Mistress and I will only treat her with total respect, so when I tell my Mistress that I will do something then I will do it. In these relationships as consenting adults there really is no hold over each other only what each wants it to be. But I feel myself that I must be totally loyal to my Mistress and this helps satisfy my need to serve a beautiful woman and to make her life some bit easier when I am requested to do so. So as I said I really am not missing out on anything, in fact my situation is something I have only dreamed about but now is a reality and its good.
I don't mean to dismiss your suggestion, in fact thanks for it but I cannot act on it. Above are the reasons why.

jack78
29-09-13, 13:48
I'm sure Mistress 4u is as good as you say but I have given a commitment. You see when I begged my Mistress to allow me to become her slave I really wanted to be her slave. I feel that you can only have one Mistress, so when I was accepted as her slave I had totally submitted to her. As another way to prove my submission I chose not to see any other escorts no matter how tempting they maybe. I have seen many escorts but my Mistress was the only one that I really wanted to be her slave. I cannot be a slave for a couple of hours during a session and then leave and see some other escort, that's not right. If you are just a sub well that's fine but if you are a slave then you must be loyal. It helps with being submissive as you must always deny temptation and be loyal so you are always in role. I will admit that I have been tempted by some escorts profiles and pics( not many but maybe 2 or 3 ) but I will not give in as when I see my Mistress it is totally worth the denial. Even though you say I am missing out really I am not. I am lucky to be allowed to serve a beautiful Mistress and I will only treat her with total respect, so when I tell my Mistress that I will do something then I will do it. In these relationships as consenting adults there really is no hold over each other only what each wants it to be. But I feel myself that I must be totally loyal to my Mistress and this helps satisfy my need to serve a beautiful woman and to make her life some bit easier when I am requested to do so. So as I said I really am not missing out on anything, in fact my situation is something I have only dreamed about but now is a reality and its good.
I don't mean to dismiss your suggestion, in fact thanks for it but I cannot act on it. Above are the reasons why.

Whatever floats your boat my friend

slavetoyou
29-09-13, 16:24
Whatever floats your boat my friend

Thanks, as Kate said "we are complicated creatures". Enjoy your trip to M4U.

slavetoyou
02-10-13, 21:26
As I asked people how far they would go to prove their submission I think it's only fair that I say how far I have been willing to go. I have recently got a large tattoo of my Mistresses name which is visible and permanent. This is what got me to ask my original question. Maybe it's a bit extreme but I feel that this method to mark my submission is probably the only way I can prove without a doubt how serious I am with being a slave to such a beautiful Mistress. It is important to me that my Mistress is always aware of my dedication even when she is not around and now she will know that no matter where she is that I will remain loyal and ready to serve.

jack78
02-10-13, 22:36
As I asked people how far they would go to prove their submission I think it's only fair that I say how far I have been willing to go. I have recently got a large tattoo of my Mistresses name which is visible and permanent. This is what got me to ask my original question. Maybe it's a bit extreme but I feel that this method to mark my submission is probably the only way I can prove without a doubt how serious I am with being a slave to such a beautiful Mistress. It is important to me that my Mistress is always aware of my dedication even when she is not around and now she will know that no matter where she is that I will remain loyal and ready to serve.
Have you thought this through properly? What if mistress fucks off and decides to give up the business?

slavetoyou
02-10-13, 22:51
Have you thought this through properly? What if mistress fucks off and decides to give up the business?

Which is inevitable but what the F**K, we are here for a good time not a long time. Have thought about it, I'm not as crazy as I may sound or am I????

jack78
03-10-13, 00:06
Which is inevitable but what the F**K, we are here for a good time not a long time. Have thought about it, I'm not as crazy as I may sound or am I????
eh, I think you just might be! But hey ho, whatever floats your boat.

slavetoyou
03-10-13, 06:32
eh, I think you just might be! But hey ho, whatever floats your boat.

You are probably right. Thanks for your concern but as mad as it may seem it is very liberating to have it done. You could say my boat is well and truly afloat. In fact is more like a hovercraft at the moment.

slavetoyou
11-01-14, 00:34
I cannot answer my original question as I feel it would not be right to make known how far I have been willing to go and what acts I have been willing to commit to prove my submission to my Mistress. It is purely for my benefit I will not say what I have done but in sure my Mistress is happy with my desire to serve her.
All I can say is that I am now serving a very sexy and beautiful Mistress. She is a Goddess who after just our first meeting made me want to serve her. Irish Miss Alisha is the most incredible Mistress I have ever met which is why I have tried, begged and preformed tasks to become her 24/7 slave. Since my total and utter submission my life feels now complete. This lady is amazing, she is the Goddess that the Roman gods bowed down before, a true queen and a true a Mistress . Thank you!!!

Sofia Milani Mistress
29-01-14, 19:54
Just wondering how far you think it is acceptable or how far you would go physically to prove your submission to a Mistress. Would you get branded, tattooed, scarred, bruised, or just generally f••ked up.
I saw something about this not so long ago and was curious about how others felt. I know some guys do forced bi sessions, scat etc to prove submission but they don't leave any obvious physical marks only maybe mental so when it's done it's gone.
What is too far????

TPE - In BDSM, TPE refers to a type of relationship: total power exchange. The implication is that the dominant partner has complete control and authority over the submissive in all areas and at all times, even when they're not actively engaged in a scene.

slavetoyou
29-01-14, 20:42
TPE - In BDSM, TPE refers to a type of relationship: total power exchange. The implication is that the dominant partner has complete control and authority over the submissive in all areas and at all times, even when they're not actively engaged in a scene.

I would consider myself to be in that situation. Although I am not in my mistresses company 24/7 I am at her beck and call if she needs me, I do not see other escorts, I am not allowed to relieve myself only when I am on my knees in front of my mistress, this is done either using a chastity device or by self denial. How long my hair is, is determined by my mistress., how much body hair I have is determined by my mistress, when I eat is determined by my mistress. I have handed over myself to my mistress totally and I will do anything for her. This has been tested many times and I have always complied. My dream is to serve a beautiful woman and I am now living the dream. I am a slave to an incredibly beautiful mistress whom I totally worship. I have done things and taken pain to levels I did not think I could, all to please my mistress. Not sure if this is what you consider TPE, and thanks for your input