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The latest issue, firstly we had anti-prostitution, anti-pornography, and now anti-50 Shades of Grey...as linked to by Ex-LondonCallGirl...
This website has been set up to campaign against the "50 Shades of Grey" book series. These books have been portrayed as a erotic fiction and have gained total acceptability throughout popular culture. As campaigners, workers, women who have experienced domestic abuse and preventers of violence against women, we stand up to say these books are not erotic fiction, but the full reality of domestic abuse.
Putting the series as erotic fiction gives it credibility that it does not deserve. These books portray sexual, emotional, physical and psychological violence and abuse as not only normal, but as something to aspire to. As people committed to the eradication of violence against women we reject the normalising of abuse these books are perpetuating and we call you to join us.
http://50shadesisdomesticabuse.webs.com/
FFS. Stupid beyond belief, yes, but it's only a degree of difference from half of the mommy porn out there.
But the charity industry in the UK is a goldmine, it seems.
Half Man and Half Dildo
28-10-12, 21:03
I suppose when they get around to reading the works of the Marquis De Sade they'll put up another site to campaign against those, too?
I too interpreted the control and humilation exerted by the Christian Grey character as abuse. Saying that, lots of ladies I know loved the book and found it sexy!
Seduction is sexy, abuse is not.
I too interpreted the control and humilation exerted by the Christian Grey character as abuse. Saying that, lots of ladies I know loved the book and found it sexy!
Seduction is sexy, abuse is not.
I agree, it's absolute abuse, as I'd much prefer you were doing the control and humiliation :p
I too interpreted the control and humilation exerted by the Christian Grey character as abuse. Saying that, lots of ladies I know loved the book and found it sexy!
Seduction is sexy, abuse is not.
Oh, there's no doubt the main character is a sociopath (the treatment of the previous gf's proves this). But cruel, emotionally abusive men have been getting knickers wet for many years.
Lucy Chambers
28-10-12, 23:30
Oh, there's no doubt the main character is a sociopath (the treatment of the previous gf's proves this). But cruel, emotionally abusive men have been getting knickers wet for many years.
And long may they continue!
I have no problem with the book, amusing tosh. If only there were so many kinky wealthy good looking industrialist S&M fans around :)
It is fantasy, peeps. You will get off on it if you have a mild sub streak. You will be amused by it if you have a domme streak. You won't get it at all if you favour the odd Saturday night tickle with the lights off.
Should you ever worry about its ''message''? Um no. It is fiction, designed to titillate those with boring love lives. It also gets people talking about things that would previously have been considered Taboo. Well done that woman. But no, I won't read it in full. I have an imagination. As for worry about the abuse contained there in? Other than to think ohhhh, yes please, um..no.
And long may they continue!
I have no problem with the book, amusing tosh. If only there were so many kinky wealthy good looking industrialist S&M fans around :)
It is fantasy, peeps. You will get off on it if you have a mild sub streak. You will be amused by it if you have a domme streak. You won't get it at all if you favour the odd Saturday night tickle with the lights off.
Should you ever worry about its ''message''? Um no. It is fiction, designed to titillate those with boring love lives. It also gets people talking about things that would previously have been considered Taboo. Well done that woman. But no, I won't read it in full. I have an imagination. As for worry about the abuse contained there in? Other than to think ohhhh, yes please, um..no.
So I take it you where amused then...what with your domme streak and all lol
Lucy Chambers
28-10-12, 23:43
So I take it you where amused then...what with your domme streak and all lol
For sure. As a Domme, I know that the line between pleasure and pain is tiny...and tantalising. To allow another the ability to control that...precious :)
For sure. As a Domme, I know that the line between pleasure and pain is tiny...and tantalising. To allow another the ability to control that...precious :)
It is tiny but lets not talk about my manhood in public lol
I often wonder who gets the most thrill tho the Domme or sub?
Who is in control really?
I'd like to be tied up and taken advantage of. . . I think it stems from my childhood of being tied up and taken advantage of. . .
One mens food is the other mens poison ....
But this book sets women rights back 50 years , has no age limit for buyers ( can be sold to minors ) and is most certainly not a masterpiece as advertised !
Its a piece about a sociophat whos big fear of women plays out in dominant mindgames and his insecurity about himself is only coated over by violence against women , disguised as erotic S&M games !
Reading between the lines , as suggested by an earlier comment , I see a poor insecure fucker who gets of by hurting women and the book paints in glorifying colours !
Everybody has a personal opinion , but when I see business women in pantsuit reading it I ask myself why some brave ladies found it important to risk health and life to fight for the rights NOT to be abused by men and to make shure the laws about violence against women change !
Curvaceous Kate
29-10-12, 10:32
Or "the story of O"?
Now that is a story worth reading!!! I'm afraid I abandoned the 50 shades of gray book at 11% on my kindle and replaced it with Oscar Wildes 'Dorian Gray', which I am finding far more entertaining and read worthy.
I probably do need to read on to understand the hype behind the 50 shades of gray books, but I can't get past the awful writing and lack of detail. To me it reads very Mills and Boon and I stopped reading those at 14, when I started reading Catherine Cookson (I blame my Mum for that).
LaBelleThatcher
29-10-12, 11:20
Surely war is abuse, and murder is abuse...but there are whole genres written about them?
Trying to dictate what other people can read is ALSO abuse.
I probably do need to read on to understand the hype behind the 50 shades of gray books, but I can't get past the awful writing and lack of detail. To me it reads very Mills and Boon and I stopped reading those at 14, when I started reading Catherine Cookson (I blame my Mum for that).
Oh I'll pass then...
So "sadomance" FINALLY made it to the best seller lists? Who would have thought it? They really *ARE* usually just Mills and Boon with a few floggings and inventive forms of non-destructive humiliation and torture thrown in.
Maybe people should make talking/writing about sex taboo again. That way nobody will have a clue what is going on in others peoples bedrooms and nothing to compare their sex lives to. Sexual frustration will disappear as people wont be worried if their having as cool sex as others and isntead focus on what they like. Whether normal/not normal wont be a question anymore, because nobody will know what is the norm. It would be a purely private matter between 2 people and as long as the 2 are content, then thats all that matters.
Curvaceous Kate
29-10-12, 13:54
I once met this lovely mature man at a party (no not a swinging one and not a client). We got chatting and he eventually told me that he made and sold vices. Not any old vice and this was his hobby, not his career. He then went on to tell me that they were engineered to fit over a mans penis and squeeze the living daylights out of them. I probably looked like I was sucking on a lemon as he told me this, as the thought makes my eyes water and I don't have one. It later transpired that he started making them for his own pleasure. A few months later while attending a very tame BDSM party with friends I noticed him tied up to a cross and there were 2 very sexy looking ladies using one of his contraptions on him. It looked murderous to me and yet was quite captivating. It was hard to look away and hard to watch at the same time.
I asked him later on in the evening if he had been having fun and he had the biggest beaming smile on his face and happily said, 'Yes!!!'
I really don't think it is right for me or anyone else to judge anyone who has lived a fair life and knows what they like and are doing no harm to anyone else. As with all things, as long as it is between two consenting adults and boundaries are respected then it is up to them.
It is fool hardy to step into the world of BDSM without doing plenty of research first though and make sure that you have safety words in place and do things responsibly.
Maybe people should make talking/writing about sex taboo again. That way nobody will have a clue what is going on in others peoples bedrooms and nothing to compare their sex lives to. Sexual frustration will disappear as people wont be worried if their having as cool sex as others and isntead focus on what they like. Whether normal/not normal wont be a question anymore, because nobody will know what is the norm. It would be a purely private matter between 2 people and as long as the 2 are content, then thats all that matters.
I don't know. from what I can see, bringing sex as a topic out of the closet in the last twenty years has benefitted women enormously.
Do we really want to put the genie back in the bottle and pretend that sex doesn't exist, and replace it with ignorance about our own bodies?
Now that is a story worth reading!!! I'm afraid I abandoned the 50 shades of gray book at 11% on my kindle and replaced it with Oscar Wildes 'Dorian Gray', which I am finding far more entertaining and read worthy.
I probably do need to read on to understand the hype behind the 50 shades of gray books, but I can't get past the awful writing and lack of detail.
I have only speed-read the thing (to see what the kinky bits where) and it's ever bit as dreadful writing as you say. And relatively tame.
LaBelleThatcher
31-10-12, 12:30
I have only speed-read the thing (to see what the kinky bits where) and it's ever bit as dreadful writing as you say. And relatively tame.
I got to page two...then couldn't resist my bedside thriller...so far, the best thing I can say about it is that all those attempts at writing fiction when I was younger that I have always been embarassed about?
I am no longer embarassed. :)