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URGENT Policing and Crime Bill - take action on Tuesday morning to improve the law 18 May 2009, 18:06

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Halfway through the Policing and Crime Bill's journey through Parliament, the Home Secretary has introduced the first legislation on prostitution that targets violence and coercion rather than consensual sex work.

Tomorrow, the Scrutiny Committee report on the Policing and Crime Bill is presented to the House of Commons, and the Bill receives its third reading. Only one day of parliamentary time has been allotted for this – an astonishingly small amount of time for a large bill: there are 77 clauses, which cover police accountability and effectiveness, alcohol regulation, the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 and airport security as well as sections 13-20 on prostitution.





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URGENT Policing and Crime Bill - take action on Tuesday morning to improve the law 18 May 2009, 18:06

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Halfway through the Policing and Crime Bill's journey through Parliament, the Home Secretary has introduced the first legislation on prostitution that targets violence and coercion rather than consensual sex work.

Tomorrow, the Scrutiny Committee report on the Policing and Crime Bill is presented to the House of Commons, and the Bill receives its third reading. Only one day of parliamentary time has been allotted for this – an astonishingly small amount of time for a large bill: there are 77 clauses, which cover police accountability and effectiveness, alcohol regulation, the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 and airport security as well as sections 13-20 on prostitution.

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We’ve already changed the Bill vastly for the better. The Home Secretary has lodged an amendment that limits criminalisation of clients to those who pay for sex with someone subjected to force etc.’ not those of us who are 'controlled for gain’ (i.e., use a third party to find clients). This government say this should still be a strict liability offence (strict liability is used for things like parking tickets, and ignorance is no defence against charges of sex with someone underage).

However, in the past few days, new clauses and amendments have been introduced by other MPs that could improve things even further.

Debate doesn’t start till 2pm on Tuesday. Call your MP tomorrow morning on 020 7219 3000
and ask them to support new clauses and amendments that prioritise the safety of people in the sex industry, and decrease our criminalisation. Ask your MP to support
• new clause 4 which decriminalises anyone under 18 who is selling sex
• new clause 37 which defines a brothel as more than two people selling sex plus a maid
• new clause 38 which decriminalises “associated workers” (e.g., maids) in brothels
• amendment 6 to clause 15 which defines persistently for street sex workers as “twice a week” rather than the current “twice in three months”
• amendment 7, which removes clause 16 (compulsory rehabilitation for street sex workers as a substitute for fines or jail time)
• new clauses 25 and 26, which, like the government amendments, require that the person selling sex has been coerced and that the client knows this.






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escort: Since the Proceeds of Crime Act, raids have become profitable: the police keep 25% of any assets confiscated both at the time and from subsequent prosecutions; the Crown Prosecution Service keeps another 25%; and the Inland Revenue the rest. It is common for police to seize any money found on premises they raid. Even if no one is charged, the money is rarely returned as police take advantage of sex workers’ reluctance to go public. Women who have worked for years to put money aside lose not only their livelihood but their home, car, life savings, jewellery, etc. This theft by law enforcement is the worst form of pimping.

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Amend The Sexual Offences Act 1956 as follows:
“After 33A insert: “33B Definition of a brothel used for prostitution.
1. Premises shall not be regarded as a brothel where –
a) No more than two prostitutes, with or without a maid, are working together or separately on any given day; and;
b) Where each prostitute retains control over her or his individual earnings from the prostitution carried out at the premises.
2. In this section “prostitute” has the meaning given by section 51(2) of the Sexual Offence Act 2003.”xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

clintes: Clients face a hefty fine and criminal record for the offence committed regardless of whether he “is, or ought to be, aware that any of [the sex worker’s] activities are controlled for gain.” ( John McDonnell Page 15 [Clause 13], leave out lines 33 to 37 )


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Am I reading this correctly, that this would favour indies? Meaning, up to 2 girls is ok in a flat? So brothels are out????

Anybody hiding their money under te bed granny style is very silly though.
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I think you'll find Roxy is taking this from a UK web site and is talking about UK law.......

We in Ireland haven't been subject to UK law for a while now...........
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Am I reading this correctly, that this would favour indies? Meaning, up to 2 girls is ok in a flat? So brothels are out????

Anybody hiding their money under te bed granny style is very silly though.


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We in Ireland haven't been subject to UK law for a while now...........


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I d ban her , but no-one ever takes her seriously.

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