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    It’s sleeping ������

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    I'm not qualified to discuss black woke vs white woke. I wasn't aware that was a thing which is probably indicative of my lack of qualifications in that regard.

    So, I guess I'm referring to white woke here. It's not dead, it won't quite die, but I think the pendulum has swung as far woke (left) as it's going just now and is swinging back to centre, with also some backlash pulling it to the right.

    This week was the 3rd time I heard of the myth of Irish school children identifying as furries and requiring a litter box for a toilet. Purring for yes and miaowing for no in answer to teachers questions. This time it was a school in Mayo. That fake news proliferating is symptomatic of backlash and exasperation I think.

    Personally I'm glad to see a small backlash. If only to stop hypocritical private jet using Oscar winners lecturing us about climate change or #metoo when they have long colluded with and used that horrible system to advance their careers, or cried crocodile tears thanking a god they know doesn't exist. Let them come up with some new original subject matter. Genocide in Palestine, while trying not to upset all the Jewish money in Hollywood for example. That should be a nice challenge for them.

    Once it became named "woke" it was ripe for scorn. I think once you name anything, be it a feeling, a movement, a fear, you lessen its power.
    That can be a good thing.
    I know so many lesbians who have become a little disgusted with the annual gay pride parade in Dublin. Fewer gay guys who feel the same about it but an increasing minority. It doesn't bother me. I avoid the city centre the same as I would for St Patrick's day or Arthur's day (remember that?)

    That is all very rambling. I hope "woke" becomes less strident and simply evolves to respecting fellow humans and treating them as you would like to be treated. Take them as you find them and if they turn out to be arseholes treat them as such.

    Refugees and immigrants are also a part of this discussion. I think the handling here of all this has been so poor. Mostly due to terrible communication from government to local communities.
    "Surprise" type refugee camps opened overnight in what used to be local hotels, community centres, supposedly elderly care homes swiftly repurposed, and talk of "unvetted fighting age males" dropped into localities, with nothing for them to do but claim some welfare and pass the time doing whatever idle hands will do.
    It builds fear resentment and ultimately violence.

    People feel that government have no respect at all for them. They are tired of being talked down to and told what they should feel and how they should behave. Personal taxation is so high, the cost of living the same and services like health care are terrible, letting a young girl die of sepsis waiting over 12 hours in A&E.

    While we have watched successive governments practically abase themselves seeking approval internationally, bringing in refugees that we're not able to cater for, paying back private debt that was never public debt. Effective corporation tax here is supposedly 2%, I'd gladly be taxed at that rate.
    All of that all gets lumped together with liberal left wing woke, and if it dies, so be it.

    The TLDR version.
    Let me make up my own mind about any man woman or furry etc I meet. I'll approach them with an open mind and take it from there.
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    Gaby Hinsliff, in The Guardian...

    We’re all slowly, if sometimes painfully, getting more used to acknowledging conflicting views based on different life experiences. Net zero targets are now broadly popular, though people still worry about the cost. Woke is no longer wildly anti-establishment; increasingly it’s becoming the boring old establishment, to the point where teenagers will doubtless soon be ripping it apart on TikTok, since turning into baby conservatives is the only thing really guaranteed now to confound their parents.

    It is radicalism that initially breaks down doors. But what usually ends up walking through them is a version with the sharp edges smoothed off that most people find they can live with, and that’s where woke is heading now. It’s not dead. But it is evolving, and that’s how living things ultimately survive.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...national-trust

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    Gareth Roberts in The Spectator...

    Right now we stand at a crossroads. Let’s consider two futures. In Future A, people look back on the 2010s and early 2020s with bemusement. ‘How mad that time was!’ celebrity talking heads will tell the nostalgia shows of 2043. ‘What were we thinking!’

    Or we might get future B: the gradual degradation and collapse of western civilisation as this cultural awfulness snowballs through it, as personal liberties taken for granted for centuries evaporate, as crazier and crazier grievances are indulged, as the pillars of the institutions rot, as the state becomes nothing but a gigantic simultaneously totalitarian and crumbling HR department.

    I’m very much hoping for A. The numbers are very definitely pointing to A, after all. If it’s B, what a sad society it will turn out that we were, to have been brought down by such a negligible bunch of ninnies.
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-woke-dead/

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    Who else gets stupid emails with my preferred pronouns are at the end of the email?
    If you want your email in the bin add that to your email.

    Nonsense

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